Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66
For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.
It sounds like he's really enjoying this.
eeewww I should have read the whole website before I posted that link. Sorry folks...!
Yeah, you should have,lol! NASTY! Kind of like NAMBLA!
But legally they must act on it in some way...
I found this interesting... (it is a clean site)
Laws Differ in How Child Pornography is Defined
http://crime.about.com/od/childporn/a/customs_porn.htm
How do you then explain the lack of bleeding caused by the cracked skull? The coroner claims the cause of death was asphyxiation, not blunt force trauma.
If, in your theory, Burke was the unintentional culprit then the internal bleeding from the head wound would have surely been more severe.
I am having trouble believing that Karr is the culprit myself but it would seem as if the strangling had to come first followed by the blow to the head if the autopsy (as I understand it) is correct.
I know I am SO sorry... I saw at the bottom of the page that writer is a pedophile himself.
I have a question if anyone wants to take a guess. Why did Fleet White and John Ramsey stop being friends right after the death of Jonbenet? What happend that caused their friendship to disolve so quickly?
>>>The pig just wanted out of a foreign prison and into our cushy prisons...and to where he figured he'd have his member lopped off for free.>>>
He wasn't under arrest for anything in Thailand. They arrested in his apartment.
The ligature was not placed to cover up anything. It cause petachial hemorrhaging on the poor baby's neck, face and eyes. She was strangled with that ligature. The blow to the head was at the time of death as it had very little time to bleed or cause swelling before her heart stopped pumping the blood that would cause bleeding and swelling.
It's far more likely that she got her head bashed fighting to live.
All that tying of knots, etc is not done in a fit. It is a calculated perverse and staged murder to gratify the killer's perverse needs.
Here’s something eerie. I was reading Karr’s job application, from the link posted on this site, and in the app., he listed his address as: “4000 Paces Ferry Rd…Vinings, GA.” I once lived in that neighborhood. So, I did a map search on Yahoo, to see if there is an actual residence at 4000 Paces Ferry. There is. Now, here’s the eerie thing. This address is maybe half a mile, or less, from River Forest RD, which is where the Ramseys lived after they left Boulder…
She was partially right. The Ramseys actually lived at 4070 Paces Ferry Road, right beside the Lovett School. An acquaintance of mine here in Atlanta, a fellow tenor who sings around town, nearly ran over Burker Ramsey at dusk one night a few years ago as he was crossing the road to the 4070 address.
The thumbnail above on the right will show you that the address Karr put on that application actually was 0.1 miles from the (former) Ramsey residence.
Did you see this, #212?
Not likely here. In the O.J. case, they were simultaneously processing the chief suspect (O.J.) and the crime scene, going back and forth between the two. It's likely they planted the DNA but, even if they didn't, it would have been possible to introduce his DNA to the crime scene while it was still fresh to cause contamination.
In Karr's case, the DNA from the crime scene is a decade old but they are just now processing any DNA they have from Karr. Therefore, there's no chance that they could introduce DNA to the crime scene from Karr that wasn't already there.
I also think they are going to have an extremely difficult time pinning this crime on Karr absent a DNA match, even with a confession. His alleged version of events and the autopsy don't appear to jibe.
I think Fleet White may be the type of arrogant and aggressive man that made some snap judgements out of resentment for perceived slights.
I think the Ramsey's did not take all of Mr. White's advice all the time and that became a bone of contention. Mr. White came to view the Ramsey's desire to make their own decisions rather than let him "run the show" as first uncooperative and then suspicious. Being arrogant, it never occurred to him that he was overstepping his friendship, nope, everyone should listen to him and do what he says.
JMO
Actually, after some discussion on this board I went back and read some of the reports from the forensic pathologists that the Boulder City Police dept. used and the county coroner. First, the head injury was NOT a laceration, so it would not bleed externally. Such an injury, the pathologists stated, was consistent with blunt force trauma against a hard, curved surface such as a bathtub, sink or toilet. Second, there were drag marks on her back, back of her legs and heels. Now, why would an adult drag a 45 lb. child?
According to some of those same pathologists, the asphyxiation actually occured 10 to 45 minutes AFTER the head trauma. That's their finding, not mine.
There were also indications that John Ramsey was ALSO wearing the same clothes from the night before.
I think this puts me back to square one. I'm not willing to attach myself to any conclusion at this point, but I'll just say that again it looks like something weird happened in the home that night; all between family members.
The crime lab has two spots of JonBenet’s blood found on the underwear she was wearing the night of the murder. Mixed in with that blood is the DNA of an unknown person. It has taken years to isolate, but forensic scientists in Colorado now have a complete DNA profile of the killer. They know the killer is a male. What they don’t know is his name.
Augustin and Gray are convinced that the DNA sample belongs to JonBenet’s killer, because of a small amount of matching DNA that also was found under the 6-year-old murder victim’s fingernails.
Okay, then how many of those break-ins had a ransom note left behind? How many of those ransom notes knew the name of the head of the household or came up with an odd dollar figure that happened to match a significant about of money in the said head of household's life? How many ransom notes noted that the head of household was from the South?
If it was an intruder, this was not a random event. It was somebody that knew whose home he was in and what type of ransom demand to make. How many other instances can you cite of Helgoth doing that? How many other instances can you cite of any other intruders around Boulder in 1996 doing that?
Some people want to pooh-pooh the ransom note as somehow irrelevent because it doesn't fit their theory. I think it is the most important piece of the puzzle because it either means a) the intruder knew his victim - leading then to more questions about how and from where he knew the victim or b) that the Ramseys conspired to cover up the crime by turning a homicide into a faux kidnapping so as to steer investigators in the wrong direction.
One or the other is true. What you can't conclude is that a random stranger wandered into their home, killed the child, casually wrote a long note pretending to kidnap her - leaving behind additional evidence and increasing his risk of being caught - and then left yet has no connection at all to the Ramseys. IMO, you can't conclude that.
Somebody wanted JOHN RAMSEY to suffer, not the owner of the house on 15th street. To me, that's obvious unless you believe it was an inside job and the note was to throw off the investigation.
Like I've said, you may be right. At this point I'm not willing to hold any conclusion too close. I think there's way too much disinformation and mixed up facts in this case to be certain.
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