Posted on 09/24/2006 7:27:20 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles
Name the single most important issue when deciding whom to vote for:
Older than you junior a**bite.
I'm sure of that, I previously figured you were young enough to still have all of your marbles.
I was obviously wrong about that. You've obviously lost a few.
a**wipe is far more effective than a**bite
I guess I'm not up to your low standards of RINOhood, and support of amnesty for lawbreakers.
I know what you will be saying about support of Rudy if he ever gets the nod, and will gladly reference your current conversations here about support of Republican nominees in 2008.
I still wont be as pliable as any of your phony nominees.
Deal with the hand that's been led.
Rudy who-dy?
I don't know where you get these rant ideas, or what Rudy Giuliani has to do with this, but I have never once said that I wouldn't support Graf over his Democratic opponent if I lived in his district.
I've only said that I think he's a poor candidate and that I think he'll lose. I stick by that.
But unlike you, apparently, I'm not a RINO and, with almost no exceptions, I support the nominee of my party.
So feel free to bring up any comments here should Rudy Giuliani get the nomination in '08.
P.S. I am virtually certain that I WILL NOT support Giuliani in the primary, and will vote for him in the general should he be the nominee only grugingly.
Don't try to make sense of his rants. It's worthless.
I'm pretty sure he's either some bored 14-year-old kid or 87-year-old man who's lost his marbles.
He used to be worse.
Really? Wow, I'd like to see that.
That would make him even worse then Extremely Extreme Extremist.
Wow. The weenie-con strikes back with the dreaded Pelosi threat.
You said a bit more than that.
You sayeth, or another poster using your stage personality said:
" The Tancredo people 'say' they are only against illegal immigration, they really don't see a difference between legal and illegal immigrants. When you force them to take a position on many 'legal' forms of immigration, they are almost always against that too. So it isn't really the illegality they object to, it's the immigration part. Sure, they might object more strongly to the illegal immigrant, but it doesn't change the fact that they are still anti-legal-immigrant as well."
" You are aware that every poll has Graf down by double digits, aren't you?"
"They TRIED to get someone else. They even pushed for him in the primary. Unfortunately, the Tancrediacks won. With only 43% of the vote, mind you."
"You don't pick divisive, one-issue candidates in marginal districts. Graf's already behind by 10% and will probably lose. Kolbe isn't helping, but the anti-immigration extremist need to take a hard look in the mirror for the problem in this race."
"The NRCC was right. You don't nominate one-issue candidates who seem to rival Howard Dean on the need for anger management."
"Pressing the so-called 'Border Security' issue won't save him. It's the fact that he's seen as a one-issue extremist. Which, frankly, he seems to be if his campaign is any indicator. "
"Graf was pretty vicious when he ran against Kolbe in the primary. While I disagree with Kolbe's decision, I think Graf is largely the author of his own problems."
It seems to me you are the one noter, with lack of thought prior to engaging posts. And a one noter who may support conservatives as a last choice.
You seem to have pigeonholed me as a Tancredoite. Shows how little depth of thought you really have and a simpleminded lack of judgement on your part.
This is not California or Washington State. You know little or care to know little of the demographics of this area, and are probably personally involved with Kolbe or someone close to Kolbe. Maybe you dont want to lose your day laborer/slaves/housekeepers.
You Say the NRCC was right to withdraw funds from Graf, but then comment how they are wrong in expecting losing the House and seats in the House in another thread. Kind of hard to believe what you post.
Your posts sound like a Huffman ad. Too bad your guy lost. and Graf will win the general.
You are supposed to ping folks you talk about.
Protocol, youknow.
That is true and a real problem for the Pubs. How Janet got the cred on enforcing the border, taxes et al, I will never understand in Az. Just what do the Dems promise in Az that seems to be carrying the day in more than the guv's race? And does Goldwater have a chance to win?
This is not California or Washington State.
Yah, clearly, California is nowhere near the border. :rolls eyes:
You know little or care to know little of the demographics of this area,
AH!!! And finally, we reach the truth. It's not about illegal immigrants, it's not about the rule of law, it's not about national security, if it were just about these things, you'd be open to a sensible plan like the Pence plan. Instead, it's about 'demographics' about the fact that you want less Mexicans in your district because Mexicans are 'bad'.
and are probably personally involved with Kolbe or someone close to Kolbe. Maybe you dont want to lose your day laborer/slaves/housekeepers.
Oh please! I've never met him or even been in his district. And even if I was the biggest Kolbe fan in the world (I'm not and never have been, I disagree with several of his positions, although I appreciate his work on free trade), it wouldn't make anything I say wrong.
You attack me as a person because you are incapable of actually arguing on any of the actual points.
And the 'slave' insult just proves that you are desperate. Only in DU land would an insult like this fly.
You Say the NRCC was right to withdraw funds from Graf, but then comment how they are wrong in expecting losing the House and seats in the House in another thread. Kind of hard to believe what you post.
Certainly, you are not so unlearned or illogical that you are unfamiliar with the concept of a strategic retreat.
You show me a general that never retreats, and I'll show you one who's going to lose the war.
Just because Graf is likely to lose doesn't mean they will lose the house. I fully expect J.D. Haworth to hang on. I expect Heather Wilson to hang on. I expect Clay Shaw to hang on. I think at least 2 of the endangered Conneticuit Reps. will hang on. I think at least two of the endangered Indiana reps will hold on, we will not lose either Navada seat, I don't think we'll lose any seats in New York, I don't think we'll lose more then 1 in Ohio, I don't think we'll lose more then one in Pennsylvania, I think we may topple Chet Edwards, I think Mac Collins may win his comeback race, I think Melissa Bean is going down, etc.
But clearly, you aren't really talking logic here. So go on beliving what you will. Just know how desperate and silly you are making yourself look.
and Graf will win the general.
I honestly hope you are right. It is important that we hang on to the house.
But just so you know, you'll be getting a huge 'I told you so!' should he lose.
In spite of what the thread spinners say, the republican money was not spent to campaign against Graf, but to unite the moderates. The republican party knows that, while Graf's support is somewhat narrow, it is extremely deep and spending money trying to jar loose a Graf supporter would be a waste of money, something the republicans are short of.
Its the woman factor.
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