[Swordmaker]

YES! It's true... the title of the article tells it all - Zune Beats iPod: How Apple Can Learn from Microsoft’s Success

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[Swordmaker]

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[HAL9000]

No doubt Microsoft was dismayed that people weren't rioting in the streets for Zunes, like they were for Sony Playstations. There were no lines of people camped out for days in front of BestBuy to get a Zune. Zune is the biggest Microsoft flop since "Bob".

[KosmicKitty]

How much did Microsoft pay for this article?

And isn't it true that Zune doesn't work w/ Vista?

(Snicker - I think I'll keep my ipod)

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

What about the other mp3 devices? The media makes it seem as though it is only Apple and Microsoft. That is isn't very fair.

Yes, life isn't fair, but still.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

And what's mp3 for, anyway, multi-something?

[SlowBoat407]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzuuuuunne

[big'ol_freeper]

Another fine effort by Microsuck.

[Scutter]

The Zune and the accompanying music store does have its flaws, but truth be told, so does the iPod. Microsoft has demonstrated that it IS possible to produce a compact device with these features:

• A large screen. Who wants to view videos on a matchbook-sized screen
• Built-in FM tuner. People have been asking for this on the iPod forever
• A music program that isn't a buggy screaming pig of a resource hog on Windows

The Zune interface is also at least as good (I think better) than that on the iPod, proving that Apple doesn't have a monopoly on good interface design.

Where Microsoft screwed up was in abandoning their existing, semi-open DRM. If they had not done that, I would have gladly tossed my 3G iPod in the trash and switched. I am really tired of closed DRM schemes that prevent me from using my content on more than one device. However, I suspect the reasons behind that were more to do with the fact that PlaysForSure was cracked recently and concerns about being able to sign up the record labels.

The truth is, Apple has a virtual monopoly on this market now, and as long as there isn't a serious competitor they really have little motivation to advance the platform. How long will Apple sit on the large screen version of the iPod?

[martin_fierro]

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[CountryBumpkin]

Well, it makes zero difference to me which device wins out. With that said, the iPod has dominated for years. Just because the Zune realizes extremely short-term market success in the niche crowd of people who must have something before everyone else does not make it a market winner. Only time will tell. People should monitor for useful market data over three, six, and twelve month windows rather than attempting to draw meaningful conclusions from a single, likely-anomalous data point.

[Peelod]

Zune on Amazon.com Sales Rank: #44 in Electronics (See http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/electronics/all/ref=pd_dp_ts_e_1/103-9152512-0225443 )

Get this turkey while it’s still getable.

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Apple holds 4 of the 5 top positions.

[SunkenCiv]

Heh heh... and I thought this was another "fear, uncertainty, doubt" article. :'D

[trumandogz]

Give Me iPod of Give Me Death!





Take My iPod from My Cold Dead Hand.

[Peelod]

just now for the 'best selling' black Zune-

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #75 in Electronics (See Top Sellers in Electronics)

[Peelod]

I’m guessing they didn’t see the survey saying that Brown was the hot new color.

Zune 30 GB Digital Media Player (Brown)

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #499 in Electronics (See Top Sellers in Electronics)

[rxgalfl]

FUNNY BILL GATES CLIP HERE

[Central Scrutiniser]

Creative beats both of them.

Say NO! to DRM in your electronics.

[Central Scrutiniser]

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/how-to-bypass-the-zunes-wifi-sharing-drm-217042.php


How To Bypass The Zune's WiFi Sharing DRM

We knew it would be done sooner or later, and now that we have the mod to use your Zune as a portable hard drive, a method to bypass the Zune's WiFi sharing DRM is finally here.

First, you need to enable hard drive mode using the instructions we posted before. Then, rename whatever files—MP3s, movies, programs—to have the extension ".jpg" in order to fool the Zune into thinking it's an image. This hack works because Zune doesn't apply DRM to images!

Then what?

Now, take your Zune and send the folder containing these files to your buddy along with a real photo. If you only send a fake photo, an error is thrown. The last step is to have your friend sync the Zune with their computer, open the "containing folder" where the files were downloaded, and rename the files back to their correct extension.

We tried doing this before with just the Zune software, without the storage hack, and Zune threw an error because it resizes the images down in order to conserve space, and our file wasn't a real image.