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Sir Winston Churchill on Islam - 1899
mattholzmann.com ^ | 1899 | Sir Winston Churchill

Posted on 11/26/2006 8:05:23 PM PST by STARWISE

1. The following was published 107 years ago in 1899.

2. It was authored by Winston Churchill who first became a household name forty years later during world turmoil leading up to WWII.

3. It was impossible for him to even imagine a fraction of the changes in technology or world politics yet to come.

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"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the infence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 1899; churchill; islam; winstonchurchill
Amazing.
1 posted on 11/26/2006 8:05:26 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Sir Churchill was indeed a very wise man.

2 posted on 11/26/2006 8:12:41 PM PST by Enosh
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To: STARWISE

It is not Churchill's insight that is so amazing; it is today's politician who ignores Churchill's warning that is incomprehensible.


3 posted on 11/26/2006 8:13:43 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: 353FMG
It is not Churchill's insight that is so amazing; it is today's politician
who ignores Churchill's warning that is incomprehensible.


Well put.
Not every segment of Western Civilization is progressing.
Some are positively retrograde.
4 posted on 11/26/2006 8:15:20 PM PST by VOA
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To: onyx; Mo1; Txsleuth; Peach; Howlin; Pepper777; Grampa Dave; BigSkyFreeper; Lancey Howard; ...

The brilliance of Sir Winston Churchill .. ping


5 posted on 11/26/2006 8:26:36 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

WOW...1899, huh??

The warning signs have been there for a long time. I guess it is up to us to take on the challenge....or not.

I don't think we have a choice...since 9/11....unfortunately, there are a lot of people that do think we can ignore it...like the dems and MSM, and even some Republicans..like Chuckie Hagel.


6 posted on 11/26/2006 8:33:04 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: STARWISE

Wow! Thanks for posting this!


7 posted on 11/26/2006 8:34:39 PM PST by KoRn
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To: STARWISE
Churchill had a knack of "telling it like it is". The fact that people in power who hold Churchill in high regard, ignore some of his best wisdom and insight.

Prophetic? Perhaps. I believe Islam hasn't swayed since the 1400's.

8 posted on 11/26/2006 8:41:05 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Enosh

He was not alone.

In stark contrast, John Quincy Adams, who made seminal contributions to the formulation of U.S. foreign policy, possessed a remarkably clear, uncompromised understanding of the permanent Islamic institution of jihad war, and its corollary institution, dhimmitude. Regarding jihad, Adams, in his essay series dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, (written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830, Chapters X-XIV [pp. 267-402] in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830), states,



…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God…the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.



And Adams captured the essential condition imposed upon the non-Muslim dhimmi “tributaries” subjugated by jihad, with this laconic statement,



The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22314


9 posted on 11/26/2006 8:42:30 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: STARWISE

In 1926 the same Winston L. S. Churchill coined another expression: "foul baboonery [of bolshevism]" It is more pithy, and perfectly applies to the case at hand. Foul baboonery.


10 posted on 11/26/2006 8:43:17 PM PST by GSlob
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To: STARWISE

Did you put this on chat or was that the mod? I hate to see articles like this lost on chat.


11 posted on 11/26/2006 8:44:43 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: STARWISE
Heck, we can take Mark Twain's word for it in Innocents Abroad.

It seems to me that all the races and colors and tongues of the earth must be represented among the fourteen thousand souls that dwell in Jerusalem. Rags, wretchedness,poverty and dirt, those signs and symbols that indicate the presence of Moslem rule more surely than the crescent-flag itself, abound.

Innocents Abroad gives a very good understanding of Islam, in that Twain describes people who seemed little changed from the ancient past, and what he describes in 1867 appears little changed from now. Mark Twain would have been able to tell us that occupying Iraq would be unlikely to produce a stable and benign Government.

12 posted on 11/26/2006 8:45:15 PM PST by Plutarch (To GWB: OBL >> GOP.)
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To: Enosh

Yes he sure was....maybe we should send this to the White House. Its a shame that Prince Charles is embracing Islam so much too.


13 posted on 11/26/2006 8:55:48 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: sageb1

It wasn't current news, so I thought it would get kicked if it was put there .. so I put it in chat.


14 posted on 11/26/2006 9:02:31 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: sageb1

Amazing .. thank you. These historical references are all new to me, not having had much in the way detailed history classes.


15 posted on 11/26/2006 9:04:17 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
I like Winston, but I like Jesus even better.

The antidote to Islam is the Kingdom of God on earth, as it is in Heaven. A wicked America will give rise to our enemies. A righteous America will diminish our enemies. In that regard we are responsible for fanatical Islam.

John 10
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
16 posted on 11/26/2006 9:05:48 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted.)
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To: STARWISE

Understand, but my motto is always take a chance on news/activism first. The mods will do what they will, but sometimes give us a fighting chance. :)


17 posted on 11/26/2006 9:06:48 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: STARWISE

Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams were appalled by Islam. Which is why I'm hoping that somehow I can start a movement. ;)


18 posted on 11/26/2006 9:09:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for posting this, and a great "about page" you have there.


19 posted on 11/26/2006 9:14:31 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

;)


20 posted on 11/26/2006 9:27:27 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Great Thread Bump

Thanks for the headsup on the Dose!!!


21 posted on 11/27/2006 2:52:32 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: STARWISE

Yes Amazing!


22 posted on 11/27/2006 8:40:14 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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still we quote Churchill, and look at his words today 2010 in disbelief “that we had been warned” and we paid no attention to Churchill, our later Governments got all caught up in the “melting pot” mentality of drug confused hippies of the 1960s and their rise to political persuasion as they aged, soon that generation will be gone and Obama is one. We should ask the next to ignore them and search for their answers and direction from previous champions of democracy..


23 posted on 09/12/2010 4:10:12 AM PDT by RJay
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To: STARWISE
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"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the infence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

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24 posted on 10/07/2010 10:40:17 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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