Sad, Cruel Beagle Killing

Yea, this got major air time here in the Burgh. Because it is PA and our weird laws, there was a lot of back and forth.

But if you chase the link I put in post #15, you'll see that it was more a case of a dude being a bung head, plain and simple.

Of course, his momma and his lawyer are prepared to lie like hell for him, but thought around here is that his pooch is screwed.

Lando corrected me on the date, it was the week before Nov. 2, so that wasn't deer season (well, not gun deer season anyway).

And yeah, I've met guys like you mentioned too. They suck and are a shame upon all of us who hunt. And if they do that in Pennsylvania and get caught shooting a dog that's just walking around the woods not chasing deer, they can be prosecuted under the Criminal Code.

"Any dog pursuing or following upon the track of any big game animal in such close pursuit as to endanger the big game animal or to be in the act of attacking the big game animal at any time is hereby declared to be a public nuisance and may be destroyed as provided in this title. "

"This is a very touchy subject, as one might imagine, and a tragedy for the dog owner."

Call me ignorant, but it seems rather absurd to kill a dog for cruelty to a big animal when in reality, they just want to be able to kill the deer/bear themselves.

I smell jealousy of the dog here!

The perp was caught. Claims the dogs were chasing deer. Witnesses said he was pissed because the dogs messed up his bird hunt. Case is still pending.

If there were witnesses that contradict his deer chasing claim, he's got serious legal problems. He can be prosecuted under PA Crime Code. The dogs have to be chasing big game, interfering with somebody's bird hunt isn't enough.

Call me ignorant, but it seems rather absurd to kill a dog for cruelty to a big animal when in reality, they just want to be able to kill the deer/bear themselves. I smell jealousy of the dog here!

Just citing PA law from it's online source.

I'd never shoot a domestic animal in the woods, not even a feral one, unless it was a bunch of feral dogs or coy-dogs, running as a pack. They are dangerous to humans.

My neighbor's dog has been the beneficiary of my benevolence, as I've had him chase deer out from under my treestand during bow season.

But I know whose dog he is, too. So the worst he got from me was being called a dumbass...

I know, you only gave the facts. I was just commenting on the facts.

(All pretty moot since I know now that it wasn't deer concern, but birds.)

I know there are laws that the guy may technically not have violated. But I can still label him "scum". ;-)

(P.S.: I know I don't know the whole story either. But I still have a problem even when property owners just go and shoot a dog rather than trying to deal with it some other way 1st.)

I know there are laws that the guy may technically not have violated. But I can still label him "scum". ;-)

See my post # 26. He apparently violated the law, because according to witnesses, the dogs weren't chasing deer. And according to the law, scum is just another word for criminal, and might I add sadistic asshole, in this case.

But who knows. It could have been a property issue, previous bad blood etc.

Here in Tennessee we have small game hunters (birds, rabbits, 'coons, squirrels, etc.) and big game hunters (turkey, deer and bear)and all of these use dogs to hunt (yes, even feists for squirrels).

Like I said in an earlier post, the rabbit hunter's dogs were probably valuable to him and surely had tags. Also, the hunter is usually not too far behind the dogs. If that scum had just told the rabbit hunter to keep his dogs away from the area he was deer hunting it likely would have been done. Most hunters value their hunting dogs.

I suspect these two were hunting on public land, like here when we have early bow (deer) season and early bear seasons in October. I am surprised there aren't more conflicts during these times, but MOST hunters are ethical and level headed.

According to surveys by state and federal officials the majority of the public doesn't hunt (a VERY small minority does), but is not opposed to hunting as long as it is done ethically. Unfortunately, the unethical hunters (which are in the minority) are the ones who make the news, get all the attention. And actions like this just pushes more people over to the anti hunting side.

I worked with a girl a few years ago who was an avid hiker, who was not opposed to hunters. She and a friend were hiking the Appalachian Trail once and the friend's dog went a short way off the trail and a hunter shot it, because it went near his treestand. she is now RABIDLY anti hunting.

I have an English setter bird dog, and I have a fenced yard, surrounded by public hunting land. I keep her confined for this reason. But once I went somewhere and came home and found the UPS man had left my gate open and she was long gone, maybe even chasing deer. She could have been shot by someone like this, although I make every effort to keep her out of the woods during deer season.

I DETEST these types of (grrr, hunter is not an appropriate word for them) lowlifes.

Happens that he was on posted private property (I hunted on this land) he was a long way off and the landownder has had many problems with dogs running deer on the property. He also did not have permission from the landowner on which the dogs were shot! This guy has screwed me and a few other hunter, The landowner is no longer happy with folks hunting his land (can you blame him) Poor Larry and his dogs, what a crock! And the media should be thrown to the wolves for the way they reported this story, very slanted to poor Larry and his dead dogs!

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