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New York City chef tests Crisco vs. trans-fat alternatives
Slashfood ^ | 12/12/06 | Joe DiStefano

Posted on 01/01/2007 4:50:46 PM PST by freespirited

A scant two days after New York City became the first U.S. city to ban trans-fats in restaurant cooking, chefs were scrambling to test alternatives. Well, at least one chef was to my knowledge.

Yesterday's New York Times had an article detailing Chef Michael S. Schwartz's test of using Crisco, coconut oil, canola oil, peanut oil, butter and lard in baking and frying. The experiment took place at the Institute of Culinary Education, where Schwartz is an instructor. The dishes tested were tarte Tatin, the venerable French apple tart; French fries and fried chicken. Crisco was the only ingredient with a trans-fat content that breaks the city's new rules. Just as Chef Schwartz predicted, Crisco produced a tart with the flakiest crust. Meanwhile, the tart baked with butter had a firmer crust that was judged inferior. The tarte Tatin made with coconut oil was deemed tasty, but its crust was lumpy and crumbly.

And what of those two dishes so dear to the heart of every fried food lover you ask? French fries made with coconut oil were tasty, but limp. As for those fried in the dreaded Crisco, they were, you guessed it, crispier. As for the fried chicken, all varieties tasted great, regardless of whether they used trans-fats. This result comes as a great relief to me and the legions of fans of Charles Gabriel the fried chicken genius of Harlem.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: crisco; health; nannystate; transfats
Here's my prediction. Banning transfats from restaurants will have no impact on NYC's death rate.
1 posted on 01/01/2007 4:50:48 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Yeah, it's still gonna be one death per person.


2 posted on 01/01/2007 4:52:54 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: freespirited

(Insert old story about the old fart that drank a bottle of gin, smoked five packs of cigartees and ate junk who lived to be 105 here.)


3 posted on 01/01/2007 4:52:56 PM PST by isthisnickcool (If you can't light a fire in the vacuum of space what's the deal with the Sun?)
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To: freespirited

When Crisco is oulawed, only outlaws will use Crisco.


4 posted on 01/01/2007 4:52:57 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: freespirited

For all we know Crisco is worse for the health.


5 posted on 01/01/2007 4:53:05 PM PST by Always Right
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To: freespirited

I'm still gonna use Crisco for my pie crusts...phooey on them all!


6 posted on 01/01/2007 4:53:12 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: freespirited

They ought to just start frying in Bacon Fat.


7 posted on 01/01/2007 4:54:12 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (All I want for Christmas is a new tag line.)
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To: freespirited

What's the over/under on number of years before trans fat is determined to be harmless?


8 posted on 01/01/2007 4:56:22 PM PST by garv
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To: null and void
"Yeah, it's still gonna be one death per person"

I didn't know the 2006 statistics were already in....

/sarc

9 posted on 01/01/2007 4:57:08 PM PST by traditional1
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To: freespirited

Will transfats go the way of the ALAR scare of 1989?


10 posted on 01/01/2007 5:00:23 PM PST by traditional1
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To: mystery-ak

I can't get a decent crust with Crisco. Lard is the only thing I can make work. I've tried, and tried, and always go back to lard. My husband says the "secret" is letting it get cold. Nonsense!! I say, let it set for an hour before rolling. Of course, my little brother swears by butter. How do we decide?


11 posted on 01/01/2007 5:03:57 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman

Have you tried using Yogurt Cheese? http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/food/379


12 posted on 01/01/2007 5:07:52 PM PST by A. Morgan
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To: A. Morgan

That idea is just nasty, and I am not clicking on your smutty link.


13 posted on 01/01/2007 5:10:29 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: bluesagewoman
I use half crisco and half butter. Works just fine.

I have read that leaf lard is the absolute best for pastry crust. I've never tried it but just recently bought a pig and told the butcher "save the leaf lard". I'll be giving it a try soon.

14 posted on 01/01/2007 5:17:38 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: bluesagewoman

I use butter when I want a sweeter, shortbread type crust.....I too prefer lard, but my trick with crisco is using ice water and not working the dough too much....have you tried that?


15 posted on 01/01/2007 5:20:14 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: Oorang

That's what I use. Just let it sit a bit after it is mixed before you roll it out. My brother likes the butter and the color and flakiness it gives. I guess it is what you get used to.


16 posted on 01/01/2007 5:22:44 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: freespirited

So, how did the tart turn out when he used Lard?


17 posted on 01/01/2007 5:25:07 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't bring what you ran away from to my home state-Freeper WatchingInAmazement)
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To: freespirited; Gabz; leda

Way above me...


18 posted on 01/01/2007 5:26:18 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: McGavin999

Puff pastry needs real butter, not lard. It has to be kneaded in ice water. It's hard on the old knuckles, but it is more toothy for a tart. You'll like butter for a tart.


19 posted on 01/01/2007 5:29:59 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: patton
As for the fried chicken, all varieties tasted great

oh you know it's not about the crisco. it's all
about those addictive chemicals, right? ;)
20 posted on 01/01/2007 5:44:45 PM PST by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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To: bluesagewoman

I've read a few different methods for rendering the leaf lard, on top of the stove and in the oven. Which method do you recommend? Thanks.


21 posted on 01/01/2007 5:44:55 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: leda

They put an addictive chemical in it, that makes you crave it, FORTNIGHTLY!


22 posted on 01/01/2007 5:48:35 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

i guess that's why it's your favorite? :)


23 posted on 01/01/2007 5:50:45 PM PST by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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To: leda

Yep.


24 posted on 01/01/2007 5:51:56 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

Your case is mild. i need fried chicken at least once a week. With generous helping of cole slaw.


25 posted on 01/01/2007 5:53:11 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: freespirited

isn't this discrinatory against the people who live in san francrisco?


26 posted on 01/01/2007 5:53:37 PM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks boat steersman hell)
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To: patton

Amazing YoChee Piecrust
More Desserts/Baked Goods Recipes Solutions

Adapted from Eat Well the YoChee Way, by Nikki and David Goldbeck.

This is an excellent all-purpose piecrust. Compare the fat – just 3.6 grams per 3-inch wedge, versus traditional crusts ranging from 5 to as much as 10.5 grams of fat per slice.

It is very flaky.


27 posted on 01/01/2007 5:57:25 PM PST by A. Morgan
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To: Fierce Allegiance

no mashies??? we need the mega
container for our side hogs.


28 posted on 01/01/2007 5:57:32 PM PST by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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To: garv
What's the over/under on number of years before trans fat is determined to be harmless?

'Bout the same amount of time it took to determine that the main benefit of eating bran is a healthy turd.
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On another note, substitute Crisco for butter in chocolate chip cookies--yuuuuuuuuuuu-um!

29 posted on 01/01/2007 5:58:30 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
LOL. Cole slaw, mmmmm.

You know, I got chewed out by the Defense Science Board once, for telling them about gramma's cole slaw.

It was kind of funny - I was trying to explain, that my mother SQUEEZES the cabbage, after it is grated, because her mother did - and so on, for generations.

In other words, why? Nobody knows, it is just the way it is done.

They shut me up right quick.

30 posted on 01/01/2007 6:00:59 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

Who the heck is the Defense Science Board? And it makes perfect sense to squeeze the cabbage. Anybody knows that.


31 posted on 01/01/2007 6:11:48 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner
these slackers
32 posted on 01/01/2007 6:15:55 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: freespirited
Yesterday's New York Times had an article ....



The Surgeon General has determined that reading the New York Times may be hazardous to your health and to the health of your nation.


33 posted on 01/01/2007 6:16:52 PM PST by OESY
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To: patton

If you don't squeeze it, it's just not as good. More dopes on the defense science board. Should have listened to grandma and enlisted retention would be much higher.


34 posted on 01/01/2007 6:17:17 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: leda

I can survive without the mashed taters, but not the fried chicken and slaw.


35 posted on 01/01/2007 6:18:08 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Well, the silly pecksniffers hired me...um...proves your point.


36 posted on 01/01/2007 6:20:22 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

oh i'm with you, love chicken and cole slaw.
pat's right homemade coleslaw following his
gramma's recipe is the best.

the kids have this need for taters though...


37 posted on 01/01/2007 6:24:24 PM PST by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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To: freespirited

My prediction: It will have a positive impact. New York's smoking ban is already showing its effects, and by calling our 311 number, anyone can get a patch.

Me, I'll stick with lard!


38 posted on 01/01/2007 6:26:54 PM PST by Silly (sarcasmoff.com)
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To: freespirited

They'll have to pry the Butter Flavored Crisco from my ice watered, cold, floured caked hands.


39 posted on 01/01/2007 6:31:12 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: patton

I followed the link but it looked like something from the Onion. You're kidding I hope about them being upset over the cabbage:~)


40 posted on 01/01/2007 6:39:14 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner

No, that is really it, and no, I wasn't kidding. LOL.


41 posted on 01/01/2007 6:46:54 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: SIDENET
But didn't Pauncho and Crisco always battle the bad guys?
42 posted on 01/01/2007 7:01:58 PM PST by mikrofon (Food fights)
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To: randog
On another note, substitute Crisco for butter in chocolate chip cookies--yuuuuuuuuuuu-um!

That's funny, my wife has been doing that for the past few years. They are good.

43 posted on 01/01/2007 7:10:25 PM PST by garv
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To: Oorang; bluesagewoman

OK you two, cut it out. We all know that lard comes from pigs, not leaves.


44 posted on 01/01/2007 7:13:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Oorang

Don't render it. Just straight.


45 posted on 01/01/2007 7:42:08 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman

I vote for lard! The crusts are flakey and tasty when baked, as they should be.


46 posted on 01/01/2007 11:17:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ahmedumbass and the mullahcracy is doomed. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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