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04-03-07 | James P

Posted on 04/03/2007 8:27:29 PM PDT by JamesP81

There is a small bit of business we ought to take care of.

Most people have expressed to me a desire to allow critiquing of each other's work. I think this is a good idea, with one reservation: posting your work to an open forum, such as FR, could leave you open to copyright infringement. Granted, it's not likely to happen, but one never knows. It helps some that FR time stamps its posts, so you can get an exact date for when you created the material, and it would further help to keep a copyright posted in your posts to the forum as well. However, before we decide on that, I wanted to run it by everyone on the list: do we want to post our work to FR for critiquing in a thread, or would we all feel better about exchanging email addresses and distributing work for critiquing in that manner?

On a personal note, I was going to try to have something ready by today (I've shelved my current project and started on something else, which, I think has more potential), but I had to go to a dentist today and the throbbing in my head from repeated injections of local anesthetic has left me feeling a little weird, and thus I haven't had time to get to a point that I have something worth critiquing. My apologies.

In any case, I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts on open forum critiquing vs email critiquing.


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1 posted on 04/03/2007 8:27:30 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Al Gator; carton253; CharlesWayneCT; Corin Stormhands; Dolphy; Dr.Zoidberg; Eleutheria5; ...
Righter's Ping.

This is a ping list dedicated to writers of a conservative political bent. If you want on or off this list, FRMail or ping me.
2 posted on 04/03/2007 8:29:46 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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"Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works."
3 posted on 04/03/2007 8:31:43 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: JamesP81

take a pill


4 posted on 04/03/2007 8:41:50 PM PDT by bobbyd (Flyer, I love and miss you...Lords best my FRiend)
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To: JamesP81

How do I get on this list? Do I have to submit a sample chapter or something? Is the list genre specific? Are there any writers of gay, historical romance novels on the list?

Ok ignore the last one, but the first three stand.


5 posted on 04/03/2007 8:49:14 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("build bridges where you can - but draw lines where you must." -Fred D Thompson)
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To: JamesP81
Since in this case open forum means FR, which has moderators, and not too many DU trolls, I am in favor of open forum. That way we can all benefit from the distilled wisdom of the comments.

Cheers!

6 posted on 04/03/2007 8:49:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: JamesP81
I’m sorry, but I feel that critiquing postings on FR will be the death knell of FR.

IMHO, FR is for the exchange of conservative ideas, NOT trying to prove how smart the author of the posting appears.

Personally, I would hesitate to post anything that is even slightly controversial, if it is going to be critiqued.

There has to be a better forum for this kind of activity.

While I’m ranting, another thing... I see posting for assistance in the treatment of medical problems (diabetes, tonight), computer repair, dog training, religion, and endless other subjects.. I want to tell the poster that I’m going on a diabetes (computer, religious, dog) forum and asking for political advise.

FR has lost its focus during the last year, with the opening of blogging as a category. Personally, I’d like it to get back to the posting of political articles, and the discussion of the same.

....Bob

7 posted on 04/03/2007 8:52:07 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: JamesP81

Forgot to add:

If you are going to critique via Freepmail, that is downright rude. It is simply talking behind somebodies back.

.....Bob


8 posted on 04/03/2007 9:01:16 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: JamesP81

bump


9 posted on 04/03/2007 9:05:28 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: Uriah_lost
Ping JamesP81 and you are on the list. There are some very talented writers participating on the main thread (I will ping you to it) and we are having some interesting dicussions.

The list is fiction writing - all types.

Welcome aboard!

10 posted on 04/04/2007 4:27:17 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: bobbyd

What do you have? :)


11 posted on 04/04/2007 4:27:56 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: Lokibob
Bob,

I think you misunderstand. We are not talking about critiquing postings.... but chapters from novels.

If you feel your "novel" is controversial, then it is up to you to decide it you want it critiqued.

Re: Rant - balanced against all the threads you listed are hundreds of political threads so I think FR is not going to turn from its orignial purpose.

The maturity level I see in the writer's threads, the excellent talent, and the willingness to help others in the desire to be writers lends not to "bite-backing" but to honest and useful help.

I know they have helped me immensely by their willingness to honestly share their time and knowledge with me.

12 posted on 04/04/2007 4:33:51 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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Chapters may be too long to be contained in just a post. I, for one, would not mind having chapters emailed to me. That way, I can print them out and give an honest assessment.

That is my 2 cents worth.

13 posted on 04/04/2007 4:36:10 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: Uriah_lost
How do I get on this list?

Ask.

Do I have to submit a sample chapter or something?

Not, but I'd ask that if you submit work for review, that you also help review work submitted by others.

Is the list genre specific?

Nope.
14 posted on 04/04/2007 5:19:16 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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“I think you misunderstand. We are not talking about critiquing postings.... but chapters from novels.”

What earthly reason do you have critiquing fiction novels on FR??

It seems to me that you want to be on FR because of the population mix, hoping that some sales might come out of a FR posting.

There are plenty of free or low cost web sites you can move your “critiquing” to, without using up FR bandwidth.

.....Bob


15 posted on 04/04/2007 5:19:18 AM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Lokibob
If you are going to critique via Freepmail, that is downright rude. It is simply talking behind somebodies back.

Granted, I'd prefer not to do FR mail just because it's somewhat difficult to make sure everyone sees the critique.
16 posted on 04/04/2007 5:23:11 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Lokibob
There are plenty of free or low cost web sites you can move your “critiquing” to, without using up FR bandwidth.

Which are full of libs, trolls, and folks who will give a bad review of your work not for its merit as a writing piece, but for the fact that it doesn't tow the lib / commie line.
17 posted on 04/04/2007 5:25:48 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Lokibob
Bob,

I am not going to get in a fight about this. Obviously you disagree with what we are doing. Your disagreement has been noted.

Hopefully, you will find another thread more to your liking to post to.

18 posted on 04/04/2007 6:01:16 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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Just a thought...it might be cumbersome to have chapters posted on threads.

You might consider setting up something like a Yahoo group that would allow members to access your files. That way they aren’t public on the thread and you can remove them to edit or when the editing is done.


19 posted on 04/04/2007 6:14:28 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com * http://wardsmythe.com * http://www.rudyblogs.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands; JamesP81

I think that is a wonderful idea. See, that is why I like having you around.


20 posted on 04/04/2007 6:17:45 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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