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Bill paves way for Canada's 'disappearance' (integration with U.S. and Mexico)
World Net Daily ^ | June 23, 2007

Posted on 06/24/2007 1:11:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Lawmakers in Canada appear to be paving the way for "deep integration" with the U.S. and Mexico with a proposed measure that advances the controversial Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America promoted by the Bush administration, notes WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

It's an issue Corsi has fully investigated for his newest book, "The Late Great USA."

The conservative minority government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper is pressing for "The Trade, Investment and Labour Mobility Agreement", which would enable a Canadian company to challenge laws in provinces that block the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Murray Dobbin, a Vancouver author and journalist critical of SPP, argued in an article titled, "The Plan to Disappear Canada – 'Deep Integration' comes out of the shadows," the secretive trilateral bureaucratic working groups organized under the auspices of SPP are "harmonizing" virtually every important area of public policy with the U.S., including "defense, foreign policy, energy (they get security, we get greenhouse gases), culture, social policy, tax policy, drug testing and safety and much more."

The proposed legislation would allow companies that believe provincial laws and regulations harm their NAFTA rights to demand up to $5 million in compensatory damages for each violation.

When fully implemented, Dobbin argues, "TILMA would allow challenges to the location and size of commercial signs, environmental set-backs for developers, zoning, building height restrictions, pesticide bans, and green space requirements in urban areas. It also would allow challenges to restrictions on private health clinics, halt stricter rules for nursing homes and almost certainly overturn the current ban on junk food in British Columbia schools."

The controversy over SPP broke into the mainstream in Canada last month when Tory Member of Parliament Leon Benoit walked out of a House of Commons International Trade Committee hearing in protest to a leftist professor who wanted to air his objections to "deep integration" with the U.S.

The professor, Gordon Laxer of the University of Alberta, was about to explain to the committee his theory that SPP involves a U.S. grab of Canada's energy resources when Benoit adjourned the meeting and bolted out of the room, preventing the Canadian mainstream press from hearing and reporting the professor's arguments.

Laxer, nevertheless, published his testimony in the nationally read Globe and Mail newspaper.

Laxar has objected to the closed-door meeting roundtables of Canadian business and corporate elite held in Calgary by the Washington-based think tank the Center for Strategic and International Studies, or CSIS, as part of its "North American Future 2025 Project."

WND previously reported two activist groups, the Council of Canadians and the Coalition for Water Aid, are protesting that the CSIS research project involves a massive grab by the U.S. of Canadian fresh water, estimated to be one-fifth of the world's supply.

WND also has reported the CSIS, chaired by former Sen. Sam Nunn and guided by trustees including Richard Armitage, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Harold Brown, William Cohen and Henry Kissinger, is planning to present its "North American Future 2025" final report to the governments of Mexico, Canada and the U.S. by Sept. 30. The report is expected to recommend the benefits of integrating the U.S., Mexico and Canada into one political economic and security bloc.

Canadian activists are preparing to protest the third summit meeting of the SPP, scheduled for Aug. 20 and 21 in Montebello, Quebec.


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1 posted on 06/24/2007 1:11:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard some fellow, perhaps the author, on late-night radio last night talking about this topic. Everyone seems surprised that North American countries are on the way toward merging. But Bush clearly stated it in a speech before he was elected in the first place. Called the “Century of the Americas,” that speech is here on FR somewhere. I’ll go look.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 1:17:55 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Murray Dobbin is a communist and a nut (though I repeat myself). Nice friends that the folks at WND have.


3 posted on 06/24/2007 1:18:37 PM PDT by furquhart (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39a6ee1f3ae7.htm

Bush’s speech “Century of the Americas” laid it out before he was ever elected. When will we learn to listen?


4 posted on 06/24/2007 1:21:55 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Canada absorbed into the US?

Has anyone bothered to ask the Canadians?


5 posted on 06/24/2007 1:24:04 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s nonsense.


6 posted on 06/24/2007 1:24:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Bible is right about the NWO. George Bush Sr. use to use New World Order but taught his son never to use the term in public.


7 posted on 06/24/2007 1:24:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why oh why is this in conspiracy instead of news???

http://www.canadians.org/water/documents/NA_Future_2025.pdf

North American Future 2025 Project

25 pages PDF


9 posted on 06/24/2007 1:27:43 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


10 posted on 06/24/2007 1:27:51 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: fanfan

Ping


11 posted on 06/24/2007 1:32:08 PM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Esther Ruth
Why oh why is this in conspiracy instead of news???

Because the idea that Canada (and/or Mexico) will allow itself to be absorbed into an entity mostly controlled by the US is silly.

12 posted on 06/24/2007 1:37:59 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: marron
They go back home to France, England, Scotland, China and other places.

We get the land and property; the Canadians get the boot.

Definitely a far reaching plan eh!?

13 posted on 06/24/2007 1:47:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Because the idea that Canada (and/or Mexico) will allow itself to be absorbed into an entity mostly controlled by the US is silly.

***

Idea??? This whole thing is way past the idea phase - have you even looked at all the links to the documents? Do you realize these meetings have been / are actually taking place - ongoing -real - real people at real meetings etc?

Hey have you heard the rumor that FR is really just a CFR - NWO change tool? Is that silly or what?

14 posted on 06/24/2007 1:54:42 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
Do you realize these meetings have been / are actually taking place - ongoing -real - real people at real meetings etc?

Do you think Canadians and Mexicans are going to join a union where the US has most of the power? If you do, you're nuts.

15 posted on 06/24/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Hey have you heard the rumor that FR is really just a CFR - NWO change tool? Is that silly or what?


16 posted on 06/24/2007 2:10:52 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
I don’t know what a CFR - NWO change tool is.
17 posted on 06/24/2007 2:12:04 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe we could just turn the world around and go back a couple hundred years and everyone could be isolationist..... Damn progress, just damn.

But I doubt the Candanians will freely give under to the US and Mexico.


18 posted on 06/24/2007 2:14:39 PM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: kanawa; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; albertabound; ..
Pong

Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

19 posted on 06/24/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Travis McGee
Looks like a giant anatomy drawing.
20 posted on 06/24/2007 2:39:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But I see a hemisphere of 500 million people, striving with the dream of a better life”

Bush needs to let them make a better life in their own countries.


21 posted on 06/24/2007 2:47:13 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: deport
"iBut I doubt the Candanians will freely give under to the US and Mexico. "

So just shove it down their throats just like the amnesty bill is being shoved down ours.

Maybe we the people need to stage a hemispherical work walk out?

22 posted on 06/24/2007 2:54:31 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Comments?”

WND is about as reliable as Wikipedia.


23 posted on 06/24/2007 2:59:56 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: FARS; DAVEY CROCKETT; Quix; Calpernia; Founding Father; milford421

Ping.


24 posted on 06/24/2007 3:54:42 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (When God spoke to the world, were you listening?)
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To: toddlintown
WND is about as reliable as Wikipedia.

At least Wikipedia doesn't push inaccuracies to make a buck.

25 posted on 06/24/2007 4:06:52 PM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Glad this is getting an airing.

It will be done . . . eventually over the top of a lot of bodies . . .

but it’s good to hinder it as long as possible.


26 posted on 06/24/2007 4:10:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

thx


27 posted on 06/24/2007 4:16:10 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"...absorbed into an entity mostly controlled by the US is silly."

Speaking of silly, do you really believe the newly created entity will be "mostly controlled by the US?" In the event that you do, could you please send me some of what you're smoking?

28 posted on 06/24/2007 5:01:33 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do not think the Canadian sources sighted are credible.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 5:19:24 PM PDT by freeforall (Answers are a burden for oneself, questions are a burden for others.)
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To: Esther Ruth
Why oh why is this in conspiracy instead of news???

good question. They're ALL put into CT or chat, and have been for two years now.

30 posted on 06/24/2007 5:33:28 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: penowa; Mase; 1rudeboy; expat_panama
Speaking of silly, do you really believe the newly created entity will be "mostly controlled by the US?"

Combined population of the "NAU", about 442 million.

Less than 8% Canadian, less than 30% Mexican, assuming you credit Mexico with 23 million of our 300 million in population. That leaves 62% American.

Combined "NAU" GDP, $15 trillion. 88% of that is US, less than 7% Canadian and about 5% Mexican.

Yes, I'd say the new entity would be "mostly controlled by the US"!

In the event that you do, could you please send me some of what you're smoking?

Let me know the name of the math teacher that led you to believe that 62% is less than 38% or that 88% is less than 12%. LOL!!!

31 posted on 06/24/2007 5:37:14 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

BIG NEWS Toddster! Math has nothing to do with who is going to run the show. Neither you, nor any of us who formerly lived in the U.S., no former Mexican, and no former Canadian citizen will have ANY say in running the new gov’t. The UNELECTED elites will be running the show, the globalists, “citizens of the world.” Get it?


32 posted on 06/24/2007 5:53:40 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa
The UNELECTED elites will be running the show, the globalists, “citizens of the world.”

And how are those unelected elites going to be divided up? 1/3rd for each country? LOL!

Get it?

Put down the bong. Or loosen the tinfoil. Or both.

33 posted on 06/24/2007 5:56:15 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: nicmarlo
They're ALL put into CT or chat, and have been for two years now.

Corsi's been pushing his book for two years already? How time flies.

34 posted on 06/24/2007 6:02:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Since about the time that Bush has been pushing the NAU...when he signed the SPP....what a coinky dink.


35 posted on 06/24/2007 6:04:37 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Corsi gets his ideas here. He used to be a FReeper, you might know. He knows how to sell the snake-oil, and to whom.


36 posted on 06/24/2007 6:06:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Corsi was juuuuuuuuust fine when he outed Kerry.

But since he’s outted Bush and the NAU.....he’s persona non grata....but that doesn’t change the fact that Bush is pushing the NAU and attempting to remove America’s sovereignty, with the help of globalist sellouts in DC, and corporate greedholders....something quislings cheer about.


37 posted on 06/24/2007 6:08:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Corsi was juuuuuuuuust fine when he outed Kerry.

David Brock was just fine when he outed Clinton in The American Spectator and Anita Hill in The Real Anita Hill. Look at him now.

but that doesn’t change the fact that Bush is pushing the NAU

The other two leaders at that meeting are out of office......Bush will be out in January 2009. Will the NAU take over before then? What's the exact date? I just want to know so I can ping you and laugh when it doesn't happen.

38 posted on 06/24/2007 6:17:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: nicmarlo
I tend not to judge authors (or in this case co-authors) by the success or failure of their previous work. Corsi could've written the Bible, for all I care. As soon as he starts peddling BS just to sell books, then I take notice.

I've been on these Corsi/NAU threads for a long, long time. I'm still waiting to see his evidence. One example would suffice. I mean, let's take a look at the SPP. Through my own research (because Corsi never seems to get there--there's your coincidence), I have discovered that it has been working on things such as standardizing civil aviation beacons, cell phone service, making the sale/distribution of energy more efficient, etc. At minimum, one would expect Corsi and WND to tell me why this is so alarming. They never do.

In sum, they serve-up pablum to people who already believe. If an author points to a stop sign and exclaims, "look, a red sign," then I'm willing to listen further. If an author points to a stop sign and exclaims, "look, a conspiracy not to be a green sign," then I expect some evidence or at minimum a half-hearted attempt at proof. Corsi's an intelligent guy. And he's playing his readers for suckers.

39 posted on 06/24/2007 6:24:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What does it matter when Bush gets out of office? His globalist/NAU agenda is being put together by him AND other globalists, who WON’T be out of office.


40 posted on 06/24/2007 6:26:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Corsi’s on record as saying Bush has a secret plan to create the NAU by 2010, or just after his next book, whichever comes first.


41 posted on 06/24/2007 6:26:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nicmarlo
His globalist/NAU agenda is being put together by him AND other globalists, who WON’T be out of office.

The Rockefellers?

42 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: 1rudeboy

I recall giving you dozens of links, rudeboy, two years ago. You wouldn’t read ANY of the documents I posted to you, NOT from Corsi....they were from government websites, and other websites, containing official documents.

At that time, you refused....and you think YOUR PERSONAL OPINION should be what I believe?

Your personal opinions carry the weight they deserve: nada.

I’ve read many many many documents, NOT Corsi....coming out of the White House, governmental legislation, Canada, AND Mexico....along with articles, including those by Corsi. They all add up to much more than what your personal opinions could ever tell anyone.


43 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

See what I mean? Just what, exactly, is the globalist/NAU agenda for dealing with Avian flu? I know the SPP has discussed it . . . why should I be alarmed that they have?


44 posted on 06/24/2007 6:29:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I don’t cast pearls before swine....and that’s all YOU are.

You don’t know how to read more than two sentences.


45 posted on 06/24/2007 6:30:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: lentulusgracchus

What was at #8? Was it something I posted?


46 posted on 06/24/2007 6:30:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: nicmarlo
Pointing to the SPP's website doesn't prove conspiracy. You have a serious problem with the concept of burden of proof.
47 posted on 06/24/2007 6:30:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

see my post #43. I you want me to repost the DOZENS upon dozens of links I’ve already posted to you and, AND YOU READ the documents, I’ll do that.

But, I’m not wasting my time with someone who WON’T even READ what they’re arguing about.


48 posted on 06/24/2007 6:31:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 1rudeboy

you’re the one who’s “pointing to the SPP”.

I’ve already said, there’s dozens of documents, bills, and other articles on this.

You won’t read them....that’s YOUR serious problem, not mine.


49 posted on 06/24/2007 6:32:50 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Let’s try this mathetically. You wish to prove that 2 + 2 equals something other than 4. Fine. You cannot point to material that states 2 + 2 equals 4 and call it proof.


50 posted on 06/24/2007 6:33:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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