Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Treat everyone as donors, says chief doctor
London Daily Telegraph ^ | july 17th, 2007 | DancesWithCats

Posted on 07/17/2007 9:27:41 AM PDT by DancesWithCats

Everyone should automatically become an organ donor in order to prevent hundreds of deaths each year, the Government's chief doctor said today.

Sir Liam Donaldson called for a change in the law so only those who register their objections are exempt from donating their organs after their death. He said one person dies each day in the UK waiting for a donor and the change could increase the number of organs available.

The shortage is fuelling "transplant tourism" where UK patients travel abroad and often pay for a donor organ which puts them at unnecessary risk, Sir Liam said.

The recommendations were made in the annual report of the chief medical officer, published today.

Sir Liam said the wishes of the deceased donor should outweigh those of their relatives but admitted that where the family expressed strong objections it would be difficult to go ahead and harvest the organs.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: bodysnatchers; donors; healthcare; medical; socialism; thestateownsyourbody; transplants
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

Sir Liam Donaldson

I agree with this suggestion 100%. What a waste it is to cremate or bury people's bodies when their parts could SO make a wonderful difference in someone's life. My belief is that you're going to heaven where it is your spirit that will be whole and it matters not if you've left anything at all behind of your earthly body. To allow it to rot into nothing is such a waste. I sincerely hope that we adopt the same policy here in the U.S.

1 posted on 07/17/2007 9:27:44 AM PDT by DancesWithCats
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
I'm so glad you have offered to donate all your parts.

We will need them tomorrow !


2 posted on 07/17/2007 9:38:59 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XeniaSt

Sorry. Not quite done with them yet. You’ll have to wait until I expire. Hope this isn’t inconveniencing you!


3 posted on 07/17/2007 9:43:34 AM PDT by DancesWithCats
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats

I’m curious. What gives Sir Liam, or anyone else, the right to coerce charity? When they do this with taxes, many scream about theft. But if it’s the body’s organs, then I guess it’s OK?

I’m being a little sarcastic, but the erosion of freedom (should this come to the U.S.) is still the erosion of freedom. That includes the freedom to be selfish.


4 posted on 07/17/2007 9:47:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MortMan
I’m being a little sarcastic, but the erosion of freedom (should this come to the U.S.) is still the erosion of freedom. That includes the freedom to be selfish.

well you can be selfish all you want by just signing an Opt Out card. Your choice. No problem.

5 posted on 07/17/2007 9:51:08 AM PDT by DancesWithCats
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats

Your response was predictable, and completely misses my point. I have not even broached my own stance on organ donorship, so that dog won’t hunt. I’m talking about freedom.

To reverse the logic, though... You are saying that a person should have to specifically state that they DO NOT wish to participate in an act of “charity”. Dictionary.com defines charity as “generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless”. Your standpoint is that you should have the right to be generous with other people’s organs...

Which is no different than being generous with other people’s money - i.e. through tax-based theft.


6 posted on 07/17/2007 9:59:04 AM PDT by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MortMan

I think you’ll find that the same people who object to theft thru taxes also object to mandaatory organ donations, and vice versa. In general.


7 posted on 07/17/2007 10:21:18 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats

Why not an ‘Opt-in” card. If you want to be charitable, shouldn’t you at least have to make a minimal effort?


8 posted on 07/17/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
LOL

How about forced blood donation? After all, it would save many lives and it's totally safe and doesn't depend on the death of the donor.

I'll make you a deal - You pay me today the market rate for all my organs and I'll sign my body over so that on the day I die, you can have whatever you like.

Conversely, I have two good kidneys you, or whomever needs one, can have one in exchange for a new car for my family. A Chevy Suburban would be perfect.

Same with the liver - I have a good one and I'll give you, or whomever needs it, half of it in exchange for remodeling the downstairs area of my house. I'd like to move the kitchen down there from the upstairs - It's just too hot up there to cook.

Col Sanders

9 posted on 07/17/2007 10:48:35 AM PDT by Col Sanders (I ought to tear your no-good Goddang preambulatory bone frame, and nail it to your government walls)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chesley; DancesWithCats; All

BINGO — thet’s a better idea. OPT-IN card.

I’d like to know why I have to call or write to opt outta telemarketing. In a few days - all cell phone numbers will be opened to telemarketers.

Oh - but you can OPT OUT by writing or calling some place. And the OPT OUT is good for 5 years.

Why should I have to do a darn thing to opt out? How about the dopes who want to be subjected to these things have to OPT IN?

Dances - I do not care what your opinion is on organ donating - keep your hands off mine!! Nobody has a right to take my stuff - dead or alive - whether it be the gov’t or you.


10 posted on 07/17/2007 11:45:49 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats

I’ve been able to pretty much wear out every part, they won’t get much from me!


11 posted on 07/17/2007 11:48:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
Do you seriously not understand the eventual consequences of such a policy?

12 posted on 07/17/2007 11:52:49 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
well you can be selfish all you want by just signing an Opt Out card. Your choice. No problem.

There are 300,000,000 people in the US. How many functionaries will be assigned to process these cards? How will the info be stored and accessed?

Suppose you send in a card and are seriously hurt, a doctor has the "opinion" that you will not live, seeing how so many people need your parts, and the card has not been processed yet?

Suppose there are computer glitches? Name/number identity mistakes? Mean and/or vengeful, or profit hungry bureaucrat "mistakes"? Will each baby born be provided for a card?

Perhaps you should move the the United Kingdom; the IQ level here in America may be too high for you to be comfortable here.

13 posted on 07/17/2007 12:01:57 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: chesley

BUMP!


14 posted on 07/17/2007 12:11:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
Sorry. Not quite done with them yet. You’ll have to wait until I expire. Hope this isn’t inconveniencing you!

3 posted on 07/17/2007 10:43:34 AM MDT by DancesWithCats

The key and next question is :

Who gets to decide ?


15 posted on 07/17/2007 12:16:37 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 66-442hot
In a few days - all cell phone numbers will be opened to telemarketers.

Please tell me you're kidding. I already get about 150 spam emails a day. If they come after me on my cell phone I'm going to get a rifle and climb a tower.

16 posted on 07/17/2007 1:55:43 PM PDT by lesser_satan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: William Terrell

So ... because I don’t agree with you I must be stupid. Yeah. There’s a good argument. And fear of mistakes? Computer glitches? So, someone who is, for example, blind or dying for want of a kidney ... should do without because people of your ilk are so scared to death that hospital personnel are going to be selling your body parts before your time, they’ll go without in a legitimate circumstance. I’m certain they’ll be several levels of safeguards that would be built in to any system of this sort. You want to let your goodies rot in the ground, help yourself. But personal insults because someone else doesn’t agree with you is just rude and unnecessary.


17 posted on 07/17/2007 2:38:09 PM PDT by DancesWithCats
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
I think you're extraordinarily naive about just how far people will take things that bear on their lives and health. And how far politicians will go to pander to them.

18 posted on 07/17/2007 2:42:55 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithCats
Persistent vegitative state misdiagnosed 40% of time
19 posted on 07/17/2007 5:32:46 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (<--- "Crazy Aunt" Conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LongElegantLegs
10% were actually communicating functionally.

Ramirez is now able to answer yes-or-no questions, nod his head, give a thumbs-up sign, and sit in a chair

Oh yeah. There's life for you! He can nod his head. So you've saved this person for what? How many years of now living totally dependent on care, costing how many hundreds of thousands of dollars to the family if they have it, to the insurance company if they'll pay it or to the taxpayer if they don't, or to live absolutely minimally in a nursing home forever if the money isn't there for quality care ... sitting in a chair drooling for however long you can sustain 'life' at that level ... don't put ME in that position! Save me from your compassion will ya'? and just let me go ...

20 posted on 07/18/2007 9:19:00 AM PDT by DancesWithCats
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson