Sailors may have cruised the Med 14,000 years ago

Reuters ^ | Wednesday, July 18, 2007 | Michele Kambas

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Well put, and I wholeheartedly agree.

Deepest Wreck
by Thomas Dettweiler,
Thomas Bethge,
and Brett Phaneuf
Archaeology

The discovery of a 2,300-year-old shipwreck between the classical trading centers of Rhodes and Alexandria adds to the corpus of evidence that is challenging the long-held assumption that ancient sailors lacked the navigational skills to sail large distances across open water, and were instead restricted to following the coastline during their voyages. Four other possibly ancient wrecks lie nearby.

this next one is almost certainly a dead link, but the full story may have been posted by someone somewhere sometime. :')

Deep Sea Serendipity
by Kathy A. Svitil

Because Greek shipwrecks have only been found near the shore, historians assumed that Greek sailors cautiously navigated along coastlines, never venturing into open seas. A newly discovered wreck, hundreds of miles from shore, proves that the ancient Greeks were far more adventurous than they've been given credit for. Ocean explorer Thomas Dettweiler of Nauticos, a deep-ocean exploration company based in Hanover, Maryland, and his crew spotted the wreck in May 1999, while hunting for an Israeli submarine that had sunk in 1968 in the eastern Mediterranean. The 60-foot-long ship lay nestled in sediment 10,000 feet beneath the surface, several thousand feet deeper than any previous wreck. From the size and style of the amphorae, archaeologists from The Institute of Nautical Archaeology at Texas A&M University guess that they were made on the island of Kos, near Rhodes, 2,300 years ago. They probably held wine. The ship might have been traveling between Rhodes and Alexandria, two major ports. Five other possible wrecks have been identified nearby, says Dettweiler, who plans another expedition this summer to get a closer look at all six sites.

The point to be taken here is, most ancient wrecks may indeed be found near shore -- because that's where most of the danger lies (nasty rocks and shoals) -- but the best stuff may be found in deep waters, because they've likely remained untouched and unseen during all that time. :')

The late Willard Bascom was a mentor / idol of Robert Ballard. I saw this book at the library one day a few years ago, and as I read the prologue I realized who this guy was -- the prologue was quoted in a story about Ballard's finding of a Byzantine vessel in the anoxic (?) depths of the Black Sea. "It sits upright on the bottom, lightly covered by the sea dust of 2,500 years," he wrote. "The wave-smashed deckhouse and splintered bulwarks tell of the violence of its last struggle with the sea. A stub of a mast still remains."

Deep Water, Ancient Ships: The Treasure Vault of the Mediterranean by Willard Bascom

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Spongebob.

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Thanks. Supposedly there are other submerged ancient towns at/on Alizea, Alonissos, Alonnisos, Elounda, Epidavros, Karpathos, Kefalos, Koftou, Kryonerii, Methoni, Pavlopetri, Plytra, Psathoura, and Stavros, to name a few.

Not sure where I quoted this from, probably a Berlitz guide to Greece or something:

Kalymnos, an island in the Aegean just north of Kos, between Kos and Samos, has some nice beaches (it says here), and a coastline with plenty of coves, cliffs, and caves (just love those Berlitz alliterative descriptions). In 535 AD an earthquake split off what is now an islet called Telendos and in the process submerged an ancient town still visible under the water (attention divers!).

The Globe, Ancient Times, msg 719, May 21, 2000 20:15:29 EDT

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I wholeheartedly agree! I normally keep JavaScript turned off in the browser (it causes nothing but slowdowns and popups, and I’m convinced that is its only common use), but the stupid butt-bozos require JavaScript turned on to view the second freakin’ page. So I think I used the printer friendly version of the article URL, making it all one page. There weren’t any illustrations anyway.

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Thanks, and I agree. :’)

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Egypt’s Oldest Known Art Identified, Is 15,000 Years Old
National Geographic | 7-11-2007 | Dan Morrison
Posted on 07/13/2007 11:12:36 AM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1865401/posts

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People reached Australia by sea at least 40,000 years ago. Maybe people around the Med were just slow learners...

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