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Sailors may have cruised the Med 14,000 years ago
Reuters ^ | Wednesday, July 18, 2007 | Michele Kambas

Posted on 07/18/2007 11:22:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists in Cyprus have discovered what they believe could be the oldest evidence yet that organized groups of ancient mariners were plying the east Mediterranean, possibly as far back as 14,000 years ago... about 30 miles away from the closest land mass, may have been gradually populated about that time, and up to 2,000 years earlier than previously thought... The discovery at a coastal site on the island's northwest has revealed chipped tools submerged in the sea and made with local stone which could be the earliest trace yet of human activity in Cyprus. U.S. and Cypriot archaeologists conducting the research have known since 2004 that Cyprus was used by small groups of voyagers on hunting expeditions for pygmy elephants... Flourentzos and Davis said the new find told archaeologists nomads knew the island well enough to find tool material, suggesting they were repeat visitors. Archaeologists say the first human settlements in Cyprus date from 10,000 BC and are located inland. Logically, the coastal settlements should be older, and in Aspros dig case where a good deal of it is now in the sea, possibly up to 2,000 years older... "This was not a case of one guy, or a family blown off course. This is a number of persons coming to Cyprus, these were conscious, repeated visits," Davis said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cyprus; godsgravesglyphs; heyerdahl; khirokitia; sturtmanning
Khirokitia
The Neolithic preceramic period is represented by the settlement of Khirokitia and about 20 other similar settlements, spread throughout Cyprus... The settlement of Khirokitia is situated on the slope of a hill in the valley of the Maroni River towards the southern coast of the island about 6 km from the sea. It is a closed village, cut off from the outside world, apart from by the river, by a strong wall of stones 2.5 m thick and 3 m at its highest preserved level. Access into the village was probably via several entry points through the wall. The buildings within this wall consist of round structures huddled close together. The lower parts of these buildings are often of stone and attain massive proportions by constant additions of further skins of stones. Their external diameter varies between 2.3 m and 9.20 m while the internal diameter is only between 1.4 m and 4.80 m. A collapsed flat roof of one building found recently indicates that not all roofs were dome shaped as was originally believed... The population of the village at any one time is thought not to have exceeded 300 to 600 inhabitants... The village of Khirokitia was suddenly abandoned for reasons unknown at around 6000 BC and it seems that the island remained uninhabited for about 1.500 years until the next recorded entity, the Sotira group.

1 posted on 07/18/2007 11:22:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Climb a tree, see an island, sail to an island, make tools, eat pygmy elephants, stay there. :')

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2 posted on 07/18/2007 11:23:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

The earliest Club Med?...


3 posted on 07/18/2007 11:26:01 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SunkenCiv

“small groups of voyagers on hunting expeditions for pygmy elephants”

Today small groups of constituents voyage to Washington where they find pigmy elephants roaming the republican caucus.


4 posted on 07/18/2007 11:27:58 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: dblshot

So, will this explain the cannabis in the Egyptian tombs?

:)


5 posted on 07/18/2007 11:29:14 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

;’)

Mystery of the Cocaine Mummies
http://lime.weeg.uiowa.edu/~anthro/webcourse/lost/coctrans.htm (dead link) | 8 September 1996 | EQUINOX - Channel 4 - UK
Posted on 03/25/2005 11:28:56 PM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1371036/posts


6 posted on 07/18/2007 11:31:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually my last post was meant for you, I just realised I clicked the wrong reply button!


7 posted on 07/18/2007 11:32:23 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Oh, well, I missed that, thought it was for me. ;’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1867914/posts?page=6#6


8 posted on 07/18/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Pot will do that to you.


9 posted on 07/18/2007 11:37:05 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: dblshot

Indeed.


10 posted on 07/18/2007 11:38:52 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The considered conclusion that I have reached is that Archeologists never sail boats. Sailors sail. That is who they are, that is what they do.


11 posted on 07/18/2007 11:54:08 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: TexanToTheCore

BUMP!


12 posted on 07/18/2007 11:57:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting~!


13 posted on 07/18/2007 12:26:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

Barnacle Bill and Popeye sure got around...


14 posted on 07/18/2007 12:46:00 PM PDT by Monkey Face ("Equal opportunity" means everyone will have a fair chance at being incompetent. ~~ L J Pete)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hope you get to visit Khirokitia one day. Quite place. One feels very spiritual and connected to the ancestors.


15 posted on 07/18/2007 1:46:46 PM PDT by aristotleman (Confront sociopaths.)
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To: dblshot

Not hard to pick out among the many Jackasses, with whom they form symbiotic relationships.


16 posted on 07/18/2007 1:59:42 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: dblshot; CarrotAndStick
"Pot will do that to you."

Best laugh of the day.

17 posted on 07/18/2007 3:08:09 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv; MoochPooch; Michael81Dus; Vicomte13; az_gila; Experiment 6-2-6; henkster; CT-Freeper; ...
Reuters should post their articles on a single page, even if it is long.

Europe pinglist ping.

18 posted on 07/18/2007 4:28:04 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: SunkenCiv

All of this is confusing. First the sea level was allegedly 500 feet lower 6000+ years ago. So how did this port stay at sea level?

The “H” Channel had a program on the other day to trace the Garden Of Eden. Who knows if the alleged site is actual, but the data are contradictory to this matter as well. The “H” found the four possible Biblical rivers near the Persian Gulf and postulated that there was a major flooding 6000 years ago - at least that ties into some of the 6000 year old occurrences in this article.


19 posted on 07/18/2007 9:07:31 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each ther with respect.)
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To: Mumbles

The sealevel rose before 6000 years ago, but there appear to be other parts of the settlement which are submerged right now.

It has been suggested that Catal Huyuk in modern day Turkey, which was abandoned over 7000 years ago after about 3000 years of occupation, was founded by members of a culture which used to live on what is now the continental shelf.


20 posted on 07/18/2007 10:39:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TexanToTheCore
Well put, and I wholeheartedly agree.
Deepest Wreck
by Thomas Dettweiler,
Thomas Bethge,
and Brett Phaneuf
Archaeology
The discovery of a 2,300-year-old shipwreck between the classical trading centers of Rhodes and Alexandria adds to the corpus of evidence that is challenging the long-held assumption that ancient sailors lacked the navigational skills to sail large distances across open water, and were instead restricted to following the coastline during their voyages. Four other possibly ancient wrecks lie nearby.
this next one is almost certainly a dead link, but the full story may have been posted by someone somewhere sometime. :')
Deep Sea Serendipity
by Kathy A. Svitil
Because Greek shipwrecks have only been found near the shore, historians assumed that Greek sailors cautiously navigated along coastlines, never venturing into open seas. A newly discovered wreck, hundreds of miles from shore, proves that the ancient Greeks were far more adventurous than they've been given credit for. Ocean explorer Thomas Dettweiler of Nauticos, a deep-ocean exploration company based in Hanover, Maryland, and his crew spotted the wreck in May 1999, while hunting for an Israeli submarine that had sunk in 1968 in the eastern Mediterranean. The 60-foot-long ship lay nestled in sediment 10,000 feet beneath the surface, several thousand feet deeper than any previous wreck. From the size and style of the amphorae, archaeologists from The Institute of Nautical Archaeology at Texas A&M University guess that they were made on the island of Kos, near Rhodes, 2,300 years ago. They probably held wine. The ship might have been traveling between Rhodes and Alexandria, two major ports. Five other possible wrecks have been identified nearby, says Dettweiler, who plans another expedition this summer to get a closer look at all six sites.
The point to be taken here is, most ancient wrecks may indeed be found near shore -- because that's where most of the danger lies (nasty rocks and shoals) -- but the best stuff may be found in deep waters, because they've likely remained untouched and unseen during all that time. :')

The late Willard Bascom was a mentor / idol of Robert Ballard. I saw this book at the library one day a few years ago, and as I read the prologue I realized who this guy was -- the prologue was quoted in a story about Ballard's finding of a Byzantine vessel in the anoxic (?) depths of the Black Sea. "It sits upright on the bottom, lightly covered by the sea dust of 2,500 years," he wrote. "The wave-smashed deckhouse and splintered bulwarks tell of the violence of its last struggle with the sea. A stub of a mast still remains."
Deep Water, Ancient Ships: The Treasure Vault of the Mediterranean Deep Water, Ancient Ships:
The Treasure Vault of the Mediterranean

by Willard Bascom

21 posted on 07/18/2007 10:49:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Monkey Face

Spongebob.


22 posted on 07/18/2007 10:51:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: aristotleman
Thanks. Supposedly there are other submerged ancient towns at/on Alizea, Alonissos, Alonnisos, Elounda, Epidavros, Karpathos, Kefalos, Koftou, Kryonerii, Methoni, Pavlopetri, Plytra, Psathoura, and Stavros, to name a few.

Not sure where I quoted this from, probably a Berlitz guide to Greece or something:
Kalymnos, an island in the Aegean just north of Kos, between Kos and Samos, has some nice beaches (it says here), and a coastline with plenty of coves, cliffs, and caves (just love those Berlitz alliterative descriptions). In 535 AD an earthquake split off what is now an islet called Telendos and in the process submerged an ancient town still visible under the water (attention divers!).
The Globe, Ancient Times, msg 719, May 21, 2000 20:15:29 EDT
23 posted on 07/18/2007 10:53:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I wholeheartedly agree! I normally keep JavaScript turned off in the browser (it causes nothing but slowdowns and popups, and I’m convinced that is its only common use), but the stupid butt-bozos require JavaScript turned on to view the second freakin’ page. So I think I used the printer friendly version of the article URL, making it all one page. There weren’t any illustrations anyway.


24 posted on 07/18/2007 10:56:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks, and I agree. :’)


25 posted on 07/18/2007 10:56:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Egypt’s Oldest Known Art Identified, Is 15,000 Years Old
National Geographic | 7-11-2007 | Dan Morrison
Posted on 07/13/2007 11:12:36 AM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1865401/posts


26 posted on 07/18/2007 11:54:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 7:57:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

People reached Australia by sea at least 40,000 years ago. Maybe people around the Med were just slow learners...


28 posted on 10/08/2011 8:12:28 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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