Skip to comments.Sailors may have cruised the Med 14,000 years ago
Posted on 07/18/2007 11:22:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Archaeologists in Cyprus have discovered what they believe could be the oldest evidence yet that organized groups of ancient mariners were plying the east Mediterranean, possibly as far back as 14,000 years ago... about 30 miles away from the closest land mass, may have been gradually populated about that time, and up to 2,000 years earlier than previously thought... The discovery at a coastal site on the island's northwest has revealed chipped tools submerged in the sea and made with local stone which could be the earliest trace yet of human activity in Cyprus. U.S. and Cypriot archaeologists conducting the research have known since 2004 that Cyprus was used by small groups of voyagers on hunting expeditions for pygmy elephants... Flourentzos and Davis said the new find told archaeologists nomads knew the island well enough to find tool material, suggesting they were repeat visitors. Archaeologists say the first human settlements in Cyprus date from 10,000 BC and are located inland. Logically, the coastal settlements should be older, and in Aspros dig case where a good deal of it is now in the sea, possibly up to 2,000 years older... "This was not a case of one guy, or a family blown off course. This is a number of persons coming to Cyprus, these were conscious, repeated visits," Davis said.
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The earliest Club Med?...
“small groups of voyagers on hunting expeditions for pygmy elephants”
Today small groups of constituents voyage to Washington where they find pigmy elephants roaming the republican caucus.
So, will this explain the cannabis in the Egyptian tombs?
Mystery of the Cocaine Mummies
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Posted on 03/25/2005 11:28:56 PM EST by SunkenCiv
Actually my last post was meant for you, I just realised I clicked the wrong reply button!
Oh, well, I missed that, thought it was for me. ;’)
Pot will do that to you.
The considered conclusion that I have reached is that Archeologists never sail boats. Sailors sail. That is who they are, that is what they do.
Barnacle Bill and Popeye sure got around...
I hope you get to visit Khirokitia one day. Quite place. One feels very spiritual and connected to the ancestors.
Not hard to pick out among the many Jackasses, with whom they form symbiotic relationships.
Best laugh of the day.
Europe pinglist ping.
All of this is confusing. First the sea level was allegedly 500 feet lower 6000+ years ago. So how did this port stay at sea level?
The “H” Channel had a program on the other day to trace the Garden Of Eden. Who knows if the alleged site is actual, but the data are contradictory to this matter as well. The “H” found the four possible Biblical rivers near the Persian Gulf and postulated that there was a major flooding 6000 years ago - at least that ties into some of the 6000 year old occurrences in this article.
The sealevel rose before 6000 years ago, but there appear to be other parts of the settlement which are submerged right now.
It has been suggested that Catal Huyuk in modern day Turkey, which was abandoned over 7000 years ago after about 3000 years of occupation, was founded by members of a culture which used to live on what is now the continental shelf.
this next one is almost certainly a dead link, but the full story may have been posted by someone somewhere sometime. :')Deepest WreckThe discovery of a 2,300-year-old shipwreck between the classical trading centers of Rhodes and Alexandria adds to the corpus of evidence that is challenging the long-held assumption that ancient sailors lacked the navigational skills to sail large distances across open water, and were instead restricted to following the coastline during their voyages. Four other possibly ancient wrecks lie nearby.
by Thomas Dettweiler,
and Brett Phaneuf
The point to be taken here is, most ancient wrecks may indeed be found near shore -- because that's where most of the danger lies (nasty rocks and shoals) -- but the best stuff may be found in deep waters, because they've likely remained untouched and unseen during all that time. :')Deep Sea SerendipityBecause Greek shipwrecks have only been found near the shore, historians assumed that Greek sailors cautiously navigated along coastlines, never venturing into open seas. A newly discovered wreck, hundreds of miles from shore, proves that the ancient Greeks were far more adventurous than they've been given credit for. Ocean explorer Thomas Dettweiler of Nauticos, a deep-ocean exploration company based in Hanover, Maryland, and his crew spotted the wreck in May 1999, while hunting for an Israeli submarine that had sunk in 1968 in the eastern Mediterranean. The 60-foot-long ship lay nestled in sediment 10,000 feet beneath the surface, several thousand feet deeper than any previous wreck. From the size and style of the amphorae, archaeologists from The Institute of Nautical Archaeology at Texas A&M University guess that they were made on the island of Kos, near Rhodes, 2,300 years ago. They probably held wine. The ship might have been traveling between Rhodes and Alexandria, two major ports. Five other possible wrecks have been identified nearby, says Dettweiler, who plans another expedition this summer to get a closer look at all six sites.
by Kathy A. Svitil
Deep Water, Ancient Ships:
The Treasure Vault of the Mediterranean
by Willard Bascom
Kalymnos, an island in the Aegean just north of Kos, between Kos and Samos, has some nice beaches (it says here), and a coastline with plenty of coves, cliffs, and caves (just love those Berlitz alliterative descriptions). In 535 AD an earthquake split off what is now an islet called Telendos and in the process submerged an ancient town still visible under the water (attention divers!).The Globe, Ancient Times, msg 719, May 21, 2000 20:15:29 EDT
Thanks, and I agree. :’)
Egypt’s Oldest Known Art Identified, Is 15,000 Years Old
National Geographic | 7-11-2007 | Dan Morrison
Posted on 07/13/2007 11:12:36 AM EDT by blam
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People reached Australia by sea at least 40,000 years ago. Maybe people around the Med were just slow learners...
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