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BOOZE BOTTLE NAILS 'KILLER'SUSPECT TURNS SELF IN FOR NEWARK SCHOOLYARD SLAYS
The New York Post ^ | August 10, 2007 | By JEANE McINTOSH and AUSTIN FENNER

Posted on 08/10/2007 6:38:35 AM PDT by BronzePencil

Aided by a fingerprint left on a bottle of Colt 45 and a positive ID from a fearless survivor, cops yesterday charged the alleged ringleader in the Newark schoolyard massacre - an immigrant with a violent rap sheet that includes child rape.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigration; newark; shooting
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Article doesn't say if this immigrant is illegal. With his record he should've been deported long ago.
1 posted on 08/10/2007 6:38:41 AM PDT by BronzePencil
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To: BronzePencil
Article doesn't say if this immigrant is illegal.

As soon as I saw his name I thought the same thing, my guess is the MSM is not reporting it but he is illegal. They love when illegals kill the real evil americans.
2 posted on 08/10/2007 6:40:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: BronzePencil
On July 2, 2006, he was indicted for a sex attack against a victim between the ages of 3 and 5, according to court papers. The abuse went on for two years.

My goodness--so glad we are only letting the good ones in.

3 posted on 08/10/2007 6:41:56 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: BronzePencil; Liz

SOLVED: José Carranza (above), in custody yesterday after surrendering to the Newark mayor, allegedly left behind a print on a Colt 45 bottle at the playground where students Iofemi Hightower, Terrance Aeriel and Dashon Harvey were executed.
4 posted on 08/10/2007 6:42:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: BronzePencil

yesterday’s thread on this said that when a certain official (mayor, I think) was asked about this guys legal status, the official said the 15 year old was an american citizen, but regarding this guy, he REFUSED to answer.


5 posted on 08/10/2007 6:43:34 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (..."work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship"... - Fred Thompson, 2006)
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To: BronzePencil

“a bottle of Colt 45 “

Let me guess, probably left by one of those aging grannies from the Swedish or Amish Ladies Lawn Bowling team right?

Either that or some “yutes”


6 posted on 08/10/2007 6:43:50 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: BronzePencil

Just another illegal doing the crimes ordinary Americans won’t do.


7 posted on 08/10/2007 6:44:05 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: BronzePencil
The Ecuador-born Carranza's last known address was in Orange, N.J., but sources said he lived with a girlfriend in the Ivy Hill complex.

He was indicted in April for a vicious beat-down in East Orange on Oct. 1.

On July 2, 2006, he was indicted for a sex attack against a victim between the ages of 3 and 5, according to court papers. The abuse went on for two years.

Sources said Carranza's girlfriend had two girls.

Neighbors said he was often accompanied by younger boys. "He'll buy them beer and that kind of thing," said one source.

I think I know why he had the 15 year old with him.

FOX is just reporting that he is an illegal.

8 posted on 08/10/2007 6:44:50 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: BronzePencil

an immigrant with a violent rap sheet that includes child rape.

What the hell was he doing on the street, someones going down for that one.


9 posted on 08/10/2007 6:44:50 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2
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To: w1andsodidwe

He was indicted in April for a vicious beat-down in East Orange on Oct. 1.

On July 2, 2006, he was indicted for a sex attack against a victim between the ages of 3 and 5, according to court papers. The abuse went on for two years.

Once again what in Gods name was he doing out in public.


10 posted on 08/10/2007 6:46:12 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2
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To: BronzePencil

O great shocker and FoxNews alert!

Jose Carranza is an illegal immigrant and has had other run-in with courts in the USA.

[So was Jose on break from his lettuce-picking job? /s]


11 posted on 08/10/2007 6:46:53 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BronzePencil

>>an immigrant with a violent rap sheet that includes child rape.<<

“Immigrant” could mean a first generation citizen or he could be an illegal immigrant.

But if he is a convicted child rapist he shouldn’t walking the streets even if his ancestor was captain of the Mayflower.


12 posted on 08/10/2007 6:48:11 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
"What the hell was he doing on the street, someones going down for that one."

He hadn't committed any serious offenses like smoking a cigarette in a public building or driving without a seatbelt.

13 posted on 08/10/2007 6:49:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: gondramB

He’s illegal, per FOX news.


14 posted on 08/10/2007 6:49:14 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Andy'smom

>>He’s illegal, per FOX news.<<

Interesting how they would just say “immigrant” in this story as if that were synonymous with “illegal immigrant.”


15 posted on 08/10/2007 6:50:35 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: BronzePencil
Is Newark a sanctuary city for Illegal Aliens ?

16 posted on 08/10/2007 6:51:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: BronzePencil

“On July 2, 2006, he was indicted for a sex attack against a victim between the ages of 3 and 5, according to court papers. The abuse went on for two years.”

Indicted! Why was this clown not incarcerated somewhere for that crime?

Something extemely wrong with our society when someone such as this guy from Ecuador can be running loose when known to be a Predator.


17 posted on 08/10/2007 6:51:18 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: BronzePencil

18 posted on 08/10/2007 6:51:34 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

What kind of bail was set for immigrant, probably illegal, more than one serious charge? Why any bail at all?

I hate these STUPID STUPID vicious thugs who destroy lives for a few minutes of rape or a few days of loot, and then are caught and put away forever. Too stupid to imagine others’ pain or their own future.

Mrs VS


19 posted on 08/10/2007 6:51:39 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: All

Let me be among the first to remind everyone that we are a “nation of immigrants.” That’s what we are.


20 posted on 08/10/2007 6:52:04 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BronzePencil

Another article to fax to Teddy et al.


21 posted on 08/10/2007 6:52:45 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BronzePencil

I recall a vote recently that Rush talked about, that failed, that was intended to require felons who are illegal immigrants to be deported. I think that the GOP could take the opportunity of this crime to highlight the consequences of liberalism on society by pointing out that this is the sort of person that Democrats want to keep here and protect, while innocent people are left on their own.


22 posted on 08/10/2007 6:53:12 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: BronzePencil

I can’t for the life of me figure out why this guy turned himself in.


23 posted on 08/10/2007 6:54:36 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

‘Nation of immigrants’ is irrelevant to this case. It is about criminal behavior, law-breaking, a man of no character, etc. That we let him into this country, THAT is what is criminal. 100 years ago we turned immigrants away for being criminals and just about for having runny noses and measles. Now we welcome them.

Let’s fix that quote — ‘We are a nation of LEGAL immigrants who are not criminals.’ I like that a lot better.


24 posted on 08/10/2007 6:55:49 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BronzePencil
How sick is it that left wing media won't say a a child rapist and mass killer is also in our country illegally?

Now tehy have a little mess on their hands. They all thought in Newark, it would be an African American killer. They NEVER would have let this become a national news story if they knew it was an illegal.

You will now see an attempt to devalue the story of those poor kids loding their lives.

25 posted on 08/10/2007 6:56:30 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Kimberly GG

The same mayor who was holding a portion of his press conference in Spanish. No wonder this guy turned himself into the Mayor instead of the police. It seems that he has friends in the Mayor’s office.


26 posted on 08/10/2007 6:57:18 AM PDT by thecabal
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To: BronzePencil

Illegals - doing the heinous crimes Americans won’t do.


27 posted on 08/10/2007 6:57:52 AM PDT by Williams
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To: garyhope; SkyPilot
Killer left “a bottle of Colt 45 “ at the murder scene..... Let me guess, probably left by one of those aging grannies from the Swedish or Amish Ladies Lawn Bowling team, right?

Honest to God, (sniffle) I am sick and tired of whitey racism against these unfortunate illegals here "for a better life" who bravely cross the border with nothing but a list on how to get on the US government gravy train (sob).

28 posted on 08/10/2007 6:57:53 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
My family immigrated here in 1633. Just when do we become native?

As an aside, every country, nation or place is made of of immigrants.

29 posted on 08/10/2007 6:59:13 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: BronzePencil
You think this would wake up some STUPID liberals? My guess... nay! FOX News just reported on this bastard and he easily posted 400,000 in bail money in the past. Where the hell did he get the money? Incredibly the judge posted a 1 million bail bond on him....I HATE LIBERALS!!
30 posted on 08/10/2007 6:59:28 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Andy'smom

We’ve got ourselves a poster boy.


31 posted on 08/10/2007 6:59:33 AM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: BronzePencil

As per my long time tagline - he is NOT an immmigrant. He is an INVADER!. Just shoot this POS.


32 posted on 08/10/2007 6:59:58 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: bboop

Thank you!


33 posted on 08/10/2007 7:00:07 AM PDT by wazoo1031
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To: beaversmom
My goodness--so glad we are only letting the good ones in.

As the senior alcoholic from MA states: “They work hard and play by the rules”

34 posted on 08/10/2007 7:00:46 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Williams

Left wing media is covering for illegals in Oregon who raped & murdered a 15 year old girl right now.


35 posted on 08/10/2007 7:06:33 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Williams

you got that right!

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime.html


36 posted on 08/10/2007 7:08:03 AM PDT by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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“Is Newark a sanctuary city for Illegal Aliens ?”

Probably. Liberals are just full of good ideas.


37 posted on 08/10/2007 7:08:22 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: BronzePencil

An intelligent people would control who they let into their country.


38 posted on 08/10/2007 7:10:09 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: spiffy
"I can’t for the life of me figure out why this guy turned himself in."

If he didn't, he'd be on the run the rest of his life.

As it is, he'll serve 6 months then be a free man. If his past sentencing is any predictor.

39 posted on 08/10/2007 7:11:11 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: DogBarkTree

Agreed. Shoot them all.

As detailed by Edwin Rubenstein in Criminal Alien Nation, criminal illegal aliens are a growing threat. In summary, he reports:

In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities, as follows
46,000 in Federal prisons
74,000 in state prisons
147,000 in local jails


40 posted on 08/10/2007 7:11:26 AM PDT by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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Apparently, he’s not alone.

A January 2004 article in the Washington Times, Illegal Criminal Aliens Abound in U.S., by Jerry Seper notes:

“About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murderers, rapists, drug dealers and child molesters who served prison time and were released, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.


41 posted on 08/10/2007 7:13:10 AM PDT by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Not when they lump illegal aliens into the same category. I don’t consider them immigrants when they’re illegal.


42 posted on 08/10/2007 7:13:40 AM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: BronzePencil

If he has a ‘rap for child rape’, why is he on the streets?


43 posted on 08/10/2007 7:18:03 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I remind you that we are not a "nation of ILLEGAL immigrants." Although all my ancestors were legal immigrants, some relatives of mine had ancestors who were here before Columbus got here.

It remains true that: A nation which cannot control its borders, cannot control its destiny.

The Constitution gives control of immigration and naturalization to Congress. Congress has passed sufficient laws. But Congress (through inadequate funding) and the President (through inadequate commitment to enforcement) are not carrying out those laws.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "It Bleeds, It Leads, It Deceives"

44 posted on 08/10/2007 7:20:49 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: spiffy
He turned himself in because he has gotten away scot free in the past.

Rapes a 5 year old and still walks the streets.

The officials in Newark still will not say if he is illegal.

The system is a joke and he knows it because he has lived it.

45 posted on 08/10/2007 7:30:56 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: BronzePencil

Fry’em


46 posted on 08/10/2007 7:32:46 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Andy'smom
Meanwhile, Fox News is also reporting that yet again the Mexican govt is outraged by a border agent who shot a human smuggler threatening him with a rock.

This is the most outrageous thing I've read about in a long time. Those kids, good kids, not involved in drugs and gangs, going to college, something no doubt very difficult to do while growing up in Newark, where gangs and violence are rampant, are shot to death in a schoolyard. And to add insult to injury, the scumbag is an illegal with a nasty police record. Absolutely incredible.

When is it going to stop? The sister of my sister's friend was murdered a couple years ago by an illegal from Honduras, stabbed 37 times, no known motive, and this girl is just dead now, life over at 20, for no good reason.

Defeating the immigration bill was the first step, in that it brought awareness to the problem. We're in deep trouble as a country, I think, if we don't do something about this, and I don't just mean the small percentage who are violent lawbreakers. The whole immigration issue has such incredibly far-reaching implications. And right now it just seems like most politicians are living through the looking glass, because so much of it makes no sense whatsoever. It's backwards and upside-down.

It's astounding to me that a judge in PA could rule against the mayor there in his efforts to put a stop to illegals in his town (my family used to live in Hazleton in the mid-nineties and the problem he was trying to fix is a very recent one - no influx of illegals when we lived there), and it is even more astounding that a judge in MD could dismiss charges of repeated child rape against a Liberian - who went to high school and college here - for language barrier issues. What on earth have we become?

Whew. OK, I'm done.

47 posted on 08/10/2007 7:32:48 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Congressman Billybob

I bet you’ll find out that it was not Congress or even (gasp!) the President who was “responsible,” but the State of New Jersey or possibly even the city of Newark itself. You are aware, I hope, that there are many cities and states where the police and court system are basically ordered to (a) not enquire about immigration status; (b) not pursue cases against illegal aliens because this might “reveal” their immigration status or force their deportation or interfere with their welfare and medical benefits; and (c) basically make no effort to identify and remove dangerous illegal aliens because it might “prejudice” immigration authorities against them. I know because I have family members in law enforcement who work in one of these cities.

Some local jurisdictions are finally beginning to pass laws putting an end to this, and I suggest that people stop screaming “it’s all Bush’s fault” (it’s not) and start lighting a fire under their local governments. That’s where the problem lies. The Feds can pass all the laws they want, but unless local jurisdictions enforce them and support them with their own laws, Federal law will continue to be meaningless.

There was no reason this man should have been in the country in the first place, and certainly no reason he should have been allowed to stay here with the record he accumulated during his time here. They had him. They knew who he was, what he had done, and where he was. So why wasn’t he deported?


48 posted on 08/10/2007 7:35:23 AM PDT by livius
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If he has a ‘rap for child rape’, why is he on the streets?

Who knows, maybe the judge dismissed his charges too.

49 posted on 08/10/2007 7:36:11 AM PDT by agrace
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Newark was the place, IIRC, where the Bosnians who were planning to attack Fort Dix managed to live their entire lives as illegal aliens, attending public schools, going through all of the normal systems, and it never, ever came to the attention of anyone there.

Well, until they were in the midst of planning to kill some American soldiers.


50 posted on 08/10/2007 7:41:34 AM PDT by livius
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