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Need a little help with a question on CAT5e cable.
Self | 1-2-08 | mark3681

Posted on 01/02/2008 4:55:55 PM PST by mark3681

Need a little help with a problem with a CAT5e connection.


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I'm running a cable about 50' long, from my router to my son's Xbox. (I know what you're going to ask. Why not go wireless? The kid can't afford the 100.00 upgrade.) Anyway, things work fine if I use a cable about 10' long. Trying to go that extra distance is giving me fits. I read that CAT 5e is good up to 100 meters. Any ideas why my hook-up isn't working? Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
1 posted on 01/02/2008 4:55:58 PM PST by mark3681
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Any ideas why my hook-up isn't working?

No. I'd check that you have the right conductor pair on each contact. I'd also do a continuity check on all conductors. Worse comes to worse, I'd use two smaller cables and a hub in between.

2 posted on 01/02/2008 5:00:25 PM PST by battlecry
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I think you have a bad cable. Should be virtually no difference between a 10 footer and the 50 footer unless you have a bad driver on the network interface card. Can you try another long cable? Can you try another port on the router? And is that a standard 100BaseT interface port on the XBox?


3 posted on 01/02/2008 5:01:56 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Are you sure both cables are physically the same too, IOW one is not a crossover is it?


4 posted on 01/02/2008 5:03:21 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Did you buy the cable or are you making it?

Go here, pay the $7.. and get it over with.

5 posted on 01/02/2008 5:03:36 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Rummyfan

Thanks for your reply.
Not sure about the 100baseT. It’s just the standard RJ45 type connector on the back of the Xbox.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 5:08:01 PM PST by mark3681
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To: Rummyfan

The short cable I’m using is:
ETL Verified, TIA/EIA-568-B.2 CAT5 Patch Cable UTP.
Does this tell you anything?


7 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:37 PM PST by mark3681
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The 100m figure is for an active network — switches or hubs that are powered and repeating an amplified signal from one network node to another. Your router and XBox are nodes, and apparently they don’t have a strong enough signal to talk at 50 feet. Either that, or the cable itself is bad.

I’d try the 50ft cable between a PC and the router. If that works, then the offender is the XBox, since obviously the router is pulling its weight. If the PC doesn’t work, then it could be any of the three — the cable, the router, or the XBox. The only way to know would be to try a different 50ft cable, or put a quality switch in place — shorter cables from router to switch and from switch to XBox. Even a $20 switch should work fine: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4774329


8 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:51 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: kingu

Making it.


9 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:58 PM PST by mark3681
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To: kingu

wimp


10 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:58 PM PST by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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Basic troubleshooting Zen says, try another 50 foot cable. A new one.


11 posted on 01/02/2008 5:11:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.)
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I’d guess it’s a bad cable.. I have run a couple 50 footers periodically for various things and never had an issue..

Though, if you have a laptop, you could try hooking it up to that cable and see if it works, on the off chance there’s something wrong with the xBox.. xBoxes are known for having problems. Though my xBox (purchased on the first day of availability) has worked flawlessly.. and I’ve not heard of any problems with the NIC.. usually it’s the DVD drive..

12 posted on 01/02/2008 5:11:29 PM PST by tje
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Good advice. I’ll try it.
Thank you.


13 posted on 01/02/2008 5:12:11 PM PST by mark3681
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To: tje

Thanks again.
And thanks to all.
I’m sure somewhere amongst all this advice there is a solution.
Regards.


14 posted on 01/02/2008 5:13:36 PM PST by mark3681
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To: absalom01
Yeah, yeah, I’m a wimp - by the time I’ve coiled out what I want, found the crimper, found a pair of RJ45’s that aren’t busted, it’s already at my door.
15 posted on 01/02/2008 5:15:48 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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Also examine the jack on the XBox. I found a dust-bunny issue in one of my friends’ boxes that was having intermittent connectivity issues. You’d love to have seen the look on his face... ;-)


16 posted on 01/02/2008 5:18:01 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mark3681

In the absence of a hub, switch, or router a crossover cable may be necessary.


17 posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:20 PM PST by reg45
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Is the long cable also specified EIA-568-B.2? Could be a lower quality cable incapable of supporting higher data rates....


18 posted on 01/02/2008 5:23:11 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: mark3681

A time-domain reflectometer would be handy for testing that cable right now.

On a more practical note - for long cable runs where the wire is near an exterior wall - or running outside the house: if you live in a thunderstorm-prone area, consider installing Ethernet surge protectors at both ends.


19 posted on 01/02/2008 5:36:49 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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I tried a continuity check. I get continuity pin to pin.
I tried going from the router to the modem to see if that worked (to see if the xbox was the culprit). This didn’t work either. Must be a lower grade cable, like you say.


20 posted on 01/02/2008 5:37:48 PM PST by mark3681
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