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Buckeyhes and BCS: Third Times the Harm
ESPN ^ | 1.8.08 | By Pat Forde

Posted on 01/08/2008 7:50:51 AM PST by meandog

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To: Wyatt's Torch

Wonder if the Cotton Bowl will be included in the BCS after they start playing in the new Texas stadium in Dallas?


201 posted on 01/08/2008 11:47:37 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Shame on Freepers who use the MSM to attack any Republican)
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To: CommerceComet
The USC fans are reading way too much into the Rose Bowl game. It was basically a home game against an extremely one-dimensional team.

Yeah...OSU also wholloped teams that wholloped Illinois. Juice Williams had a day where he (uncharacteristically) hit some beautiful passes on the run to covered receivers. If you watched closely against USC, you could see how dangerous he was, but where he hit a covered receiver in one game, he missed (more usual) in the other (and most of the rest of the season).

202 posted on 01/08/2008 11:48:58 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Publius Valerius

***That no longer happens. The national title game is a separate bowl. Won’t see a plus 1.***

Bingo!!! You won’t have to sacrifice the tradition of conference champs in a plus 1 format. This year, you’d have gotten OSU and SC. Your WHOLE reasoning for the Big-10 & Pac-10 to oppose a plus 1 is tradition and that doesn’t get in the way of a plus 1 format.


203 posted on 01/08/2008 11:54:31 AM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Comparative Advantage
and mocking the SEC’s superior speed

Even Urban Meyer basically did that. ...and Wells pulling away from the whole LSU defense was another example. ...then there's the NFL, where OSU put a number of fast players into the pros - who are fast even for the pros.

204 posted on 01/08/2008 11:55:25 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

“Wonder if the Cotton Bowl will be included in the BCS after they start playing in the new Texas stadium in Dallas?”

That is the goal of the Cotton Bowl for sure. I guess there is a spot available to host the BCS Shampionship game and the traditional other 4 BCS bowls...


205 posted on 01/08/2008 11:57:11 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Georgia
In regards to the losses, they were early, but a division II loss at home is to much to overcome.

In an ordinary season, I'd agree, but I think that this season, it could have been done. If Michigan had won out, they would have probably had about the longest win streak in the NCAA, with the exception of Hawaii, at least for the last week of their regular season. The first two games would have been viewed as anomalies.

Anyway, my main point was that the Michigan that beat Florida was the Michigan that finally showed the potential that had it ranked so high pre-season (and remember that they beat Florida much worse than the score would indicate--without those freak fumbles by Hart and the one interception, there would have been a very lopsided score). Even if it hadn't been in the championship, a Michigan with a healthy Hart and Henne at the end of the season would have certainly been in a BCS game, App State or no. In fact, I think that the blowout to Oregon would have hurt more, in the end.

206 posted on 01/08/2008 11:57:15 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: lepton

A few fast players versus a team of exceptionally fast players is not one and the same. Sorry...


207 posted on 01/08/2008 12:00:18 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Georgia

***It’s not our fault that we had to play Hawaii. We wanted to go to the Rose.***

Sucks, don’t it! But, tradition is more important than truly trying to find the real #1 or giving fans the real interesting match-ups. I haven’t watched the Rose bowl in years. Boring games.

It is telling when general opinion is the best day game Jan 1 isn’t the Rose bowl: its the Gator bowl. And, what a game it was.


208 posted on 01/08/2008 12:00:45 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus

Long ago...when I was in college (I believe dinosaurs roamed the earth and there was no cable), I remember it was NBC, etc., that “set” your New Year’s Day.

EVERY network had the Tournament of Roses Parade, of course, but the night before was the Cotton Bowl Parade, correct?

Then I think there were three bowl games - Cotton, then Rose, then Orange, or Cotton, then Orange, then Rose. Can anybody corroborate this? But I know the Sugar Bowl was played - when?

I’d never heard of the other bowl games before, but I’m made to believe they’ve been around - were they pretty much ignored except in the Sports pages?


209 posted on 01/08/2008 12:12:04 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

The four big bowls were: Cotton, Orange, Rose & Sugar. LOL, what a flash back, I had forgotten that all networks covered the Tournament of Roses Parade.


210 posted on 01/08/2008 12:16:20 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Shame on Freepers who use the MSM to attack any Republican)
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To: lepton

That too.


211 posted on 01/08/2008 12:22:05 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I know - I can still hear the announcer’s voice in my head “Your New Year begins with the Cotton Bowl Parade on New Year’s Eve...THEN! New Year’s Day, blah blah blah...starting with the Cotton Bowl at 9:00! Then it’s the Rose Bowl!” and on and on. Your only excuse for leaving your set on 1/1 was to get another beer and a chip refill.

...and there are moments I really miss those days.


212 posted on 01/08/2008 12:29:19 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Bosco
If any other team won enough games, they too could play in the BCS title game like the Buckeyes and the Tigers

Hawaii and Kansas did?
213 posted on 01/08/2008 12:38:23 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (The Pigs are about to take over the barnyard!)
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To: orlop9

Georgia’s 1 - 0 in the Rose.
Tennessee is 0 - 2.
Bama is 4 - 1 - 1.

So it looks like the SEC is 5 - 3 - 1.

Quiz question: Which team has played in more Rose Bowls? Pac10 member Arizona, or Washington and Jefferson? Who’s won more - Indiana or Columbia?


214 posted on 01/08/2008 12:39:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; Right Cal Gal

When the Cotton moves to the new Cowboy home, you’ll see them pitch to become the 5th BCS bowl. If not sooner. Though, why anyone would want to be a part of the Bowl Chump Series is beyond me. Oh, wait,.... money. Never mind.

When will they (whomever THEY are) figure out the fans are now drolling for an LSU vs. someone matchup.

Personally, I’d like to see...

LSU vs. WV

sorry Dawgs: its not like LSU v. Georgia was out of your control
sorry USC: Play someone next time.
Sorry Mizzou: you had your shot at OU in the Big 12 title game and fell short.


215 posted on 01/08/2008 12:46:57 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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Ahem: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3186232
Georgia president: Schools need to regain control of postseason

On Monday, Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford and SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said the ACC, SEC, Big East and Big 12 are open to a “plus-one” Final Four format in which the top four teams would be selected and seeded.


216 posted on 01/08/2008 12:52:01 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus

I must confess - I can’t figure out how they can take god knows how many college football teams and decide who’s 1 and who’s 2 and so on and so forth.

While I’m very ambivalent about a national college championship, I can understand the fans wanting one. But I don’t know - I often wish they’d just left the “Big 4” alone. But I don’t know the nuances of BCS selection, because I still can’t figure out how Cal didn’t go to the Rose Bowl and Texas did. I think it’s because USC went to bowl game designated as the championship (Fiesta? Orange? I forget) and therefore the Pac-10 lost its spot in the Rose Bowl.

Rats....now I have a headache.


217 posted on 01/08/2008 12:53:16 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
The rest of the world could give a crap.

I'm not so sure about that. You might recall LSU fans buying 41,000 Rose Bowl tickets a couple years back just on the possibility that it might be going. The Rose Bowl is the oldest and grandest. It's a spectacle unto itself. It has cache that the others don't--that's just all there is to it. Everyone knows what the Rose Bowl is, even your 90 year old grandmother. There are a lot of other people that couldn't name a single other bowl game.

Screw the fans wanting to see the best game (UGA vs USC).

This wasn't an option for the Rose Bowl. In order for the Rose Bowl to have gotten Georgia, the Sugar Bowl would have had to "given" Georgia (as the highest-ranked SEC team not going to the national title game) to the Rose Bowl. Why would it do that?

218 posted on 01/08/2008 12:53:41 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: N3WBI3
Ahhh the true meaning of SEC

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You have never been to a game in the SEC or ACC have you? A lovely way to spend a family Saturday afternoon.
219 posted on 01/08/2008 12:56:12 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (The Pigs are about to take over the barnyard!)
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To: Lord_Calvinus; Right Cal Gal
The Cottown Bowl being on of the "traditional" New Years Day Bowls, they are entitled to make the pitch to be included, imho.

I must say that I almost forgot to watch last night's game. Call me stuck on traditional but any game played on any day other than New Years, just seems out of place. And if we get a playoff system like so many are screaming for, what will the season end, April?

220 posted on 01/08/2008 12:59:51 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Shame on Freepers who use the MSM to attack any Republican)
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