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The Computer is Broken. Seems to be Circling the Drain in a Loop. TECH PING LIST SUPERSTARS
03.02.08 | chickensoup

Posted on 03/02/2008 3:52:23 PM PST by Chickensoup

Help!

Came home last night. Turned on the trusty computer and up came a long message, white on black saying: We apologize for the inconvience but Windows did not start successflly... with several option to start.

None of them work.

It then loops to the windows xp screen

Then to an ad for the mainboard

then to a scan devices screen

then to some sort of listing

This morning there was a listing that on each line named had a number of the programs I run at the end of each line. It has not come up this time.

The hard disk comes on for the main board screen and the listing screen


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This is the family computer. We do about 35% of our homeschooling on the puter.

Pleas help

1 posted on 03/02/2008 3:52:26 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup
See if you can boot into safe mode first....


2 posted on 03/02/2008 3:54:56 PM PST by Viking2002 (Rove, you magnificent bastard!)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ..

I need your help please.

Please ping tech support list for me.

Thank you.


3 posted on 03/02/2008 3:55:07 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Viking2002

Safe mode and safe mode is an option of screen one

no dice


4 posted on 03/02/2008 3:55:57 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup

Hit f8 and try to boot into Safe Mode. Computer is trying to boot obviously into Win XP and something is killing it.

If you can get into safe mode you can run msconfig and try to prevent anything from running except XP. You might just be missing a .dll or have a corrupt start up file from one of your programs.

Once you get back up and running, download CC Cleaner and use (free). If you need free antivirus - AVG is very good.

If safe mode does not work, post the type of computer or motherboard here and we’ll see what we can do.


5 posted on 03/02/2008 3:58:38 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Viking2002

Other options include safe mode with networking
plain old safe mode
safe mode with command prompt
start windows normally


6 posted on 03/02/2008 3:58:38 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup; ShadowAce; backhoe; HAL9000

Seems the electronic sky is falling on our friend Chickensoup... please HALP.


7 posted on 03/02/2008 3:59:18 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Chickensoup; All; John Robinson

imho,

there should be a master thread for this and it should be prominently displayed at the top of the screen on all threads.

We have a host of folks hereon. I think doing that would minimize individual vanity threads every time one of us had a desperate need.

THANKS TO ALL who help out in this case. Your tireless efforts are Godsends to the rest of us.


8 posted on 03/02/2008 3:59:35 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Chickensoup

buy a Mac, you will never regret it.


9 posted on 03/02/2008 4:00:10 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: txzman

I hit F8

Then I hit command F8

The countdown on the inconvience screen has stopped


10 posted on 03/02/2008 4:00:51 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup

I believe you are screwed.


11 posted on 03/02/2008 4:01:04 PM PST by brivette
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To: Chickensoup

12 posted on 03/02/2008 4:01:21 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: txzman

Another option is to get into the case and look for the CMOS battery which keeps the startup options for your PC. You can take the battery out (just clips in) and replace after 30 seconds or so and try booting again.

Sometimes this causes problems as well.

Also, do you get any “POST” beeps when you start up? These are the beeps the motherboard gives out that can tell you where problem lies - ie 3 short beeps and then 1 long, 3 long beeps, etc.

POST Codes can identify which part of the hardware is not cooperating, or even if it appears to be a hardware based issue.


13 posted on 03/02/2008 4:01:36 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Chickensoup

If it’s restarting itself even when you try to boot into safe mode, there *may* be a hardware issue. I’ve seen that with motherboard problems.

What model is it, out of curiosity?


14 posted on 03/02/2008 4:02:14 PM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: Chickensoup

Do you have an XP disk?


15 posted on 03/02/2008 4:02:36 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Chickensoup

Go into safe mode then go to “system restore” and go back a day or two

Above works for Windows XP


16 posted on 03/02/2008 4:03:37 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: Chickensoup
If you're not coming up in safe mode, and you're not getting at least a split-second BSOD to see what the error might be, your last, best hope would be the recovery CD.

You do have a recovery CD, yes?


17 posted on 03/02/2008 4:03:45 PM PST by Viking2002 (Rove, you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Chickensoup
Get an XP disk. Any XP disk and run chkdsk first.
18 posted on 03/02/2008 4:06:19 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: txzman

One beep and then to the windows xp screen
the scan screen
then to the inconvenience screen
then looping


19 posted on 03/02/2008 4:06:38 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup
Other options include safe mode with networking plain old safe mode safe mode with command prompt start windows normally

Select: safe mode with command prompt.

Let me know what happens please.
20 posted on 03/02/2008 4:06:52 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Chickensoup

Sounds as if your disk drive is hosed.


21 posted on 03/02/2008 4:07:07 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: txzman

What is a cmos battery?


22 posted on 03/02/2008 4:07:22 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup
Mine is doing almost the same thing...happened yesterday afternoon.

I went into safe mode, couldn't locate the problem...then restored to an earlier date, that worked for awhile, then problem started all over.

Finally, located that it seems to be my comcast connection. I don't know if it is the comcast receiver [unplugged and reset it several times] that is giving me the problem or if it is a comcast overall thing.

The TV lost it's signal a couple of times in this same timeframe and the laptop lost it's connection, too. [although, at no time did the laptop have either that dreaded black or blue screen.]

Do you by chance have comcast, too?

23 posted on 03/02/2008 4:07:36 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Nope. No capital letters for the clintons, bill or hill, ever again.)
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To: Chickensoup

sounds like a software problem. Is it true that you cannot get into safe mode?


24 posted on 03/02/2008 4:07:55 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: RosieCotton

It is a tiger direct Systemax AMD mother board 64


25 posted on 03/02/2008 4:08:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup

It sounds to me like you picked up a virus - I got one last week that destroyed a 200BB hard drive (for XP but not Linux).

I ended up catching the virus before it got to my C drive.


26 posted on 03/02/2008 4:11:21 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (I love big brother)
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To: Chickensoup

Try powering up, then hit the F8 key about once a second. That may get you into safe mode.


27 posted on 03/02/2008 4:11:48 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Chickensoup

After reading this I suggest that you pull your hard drive and take it to somebody that can copy files off of it without having to boot it.


28 posted on 03/02/2008 4:13:04 PM PST by rocksblues (Tagline on hold)
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To: dennisw

Wont accept the command


29 posted on 03/02/2008 4:13:20 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup

CMOS battery is about the size of a quarter, silvery metal, round that pops into a holder on the motherboard. Keeps your initial boot up settings in memory to sort of jump start the computer with info on how it is setup to run.


30 posted on 03/02/2008 4:13:36 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: kinoxi

just found it


31 posted on 03/02/2008 4:13:46 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Viking2002

You do have a recovery CD, yes?

Would that be my xp pro disc?


32 posted on 03/02/2008 4:14:37 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: monkeycard

nothing


33 posted on 03/02/2008 4:15:04 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Hacklehead

True


34 posted on 03/02/2008 4:15:37 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup
boot from disk and run "r" for repair and then chkdsk /r to do a disk repair.

Do NOT reformat the drive.

In the worst case, you'll have to buy a hard drive. Once that's installed, you can connect your old hard drive by USB and copy the relevant data files, after you've scanned them for viruses as someone else has already pointed out.

35 posted on 03/02/2008 4:15:38 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: Chickensoup

here’s a bttt for help


36 posted on 03/02/2008 4:17:14 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Viking2002; Chickensoup
your last , best hope would be the recovery CD.

Recovery disks usually re-format your hard drive. That means, they wipe it clean, and away goes data, down the drain.

As Viking2002 said...it's your last hope to reuse your PC.

Still waiting for you to gather the above asked for information..."beeps", "motherboard model", etc.

Using a "live" CD, from any Linux distribution is better than using a recovery cd, in that, you will be able to copy off your data.
You could also choose to install Linux by resizing yur partition, and using the available space, without losing your data.
You could also do a "side by side" installation of XP, without losing your data.

Good luck!
37 posted on 03/02/2008 4:18:56 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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To: Chickensoup
It would be the restore CD that came with the PC. If not, you can use your OEM XP CD, and reinstall Windows. Do not reformat the drive, or all of your saved documents, Internet shortcuts, etc. will go bye-bye. Your registry will be overwritten, so you'll have to reinstall several programs, but it beats losing everything on there.


38 posted on 03/02/2008 4:19:30 PM PST by Viking2002 (Rove, you magnificent bastard!)
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To: mkmensinger

Try powering up, then hit the F8 key about once a second. That may get you into safe mode.

did it. new screen with lots of boot options.

The ones previously mentionded plus
Enable boot logging
enagle VGA mode
last known good config
degugging mode
diable auto restart on system failure

Start windows normally
reboot
returen ot OS choices menue


39 posted on 03/02/2008 4:19:38 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup
It sounds to me like it's loading something that's blowing you out. Get a hold of or get on another box and download "Hiren's Boot CD" or a Linux boot cd.

Both will have stuff on them to help you clean up the boot process.

40 posted on 03/02/2008 4:20:03 PM PST by Slump Tester (Only CINOs and democRATs knowingly and willingly vote for RINOs!)
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To: txzman

Thank you


41 posted on 03/02/2008 4:20:26 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup; the invisib1e hand
boot from disk and run "r" for repair and then chkdsk /r to do a disk repair.

BUMP. The hand speaks truth.

42 posted on 03/02/2008 4:20:28 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: Chickensoup

Just for the heck of it, try last known. If that doesn’t work, do it again and go into safe mode & do a chkdsk.


43 posted on 03/02/2008 4:21:53 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Chickensoup

I had the exact same problem 2 days ago. I see at least one other person here has the same problem. Nothing worked for me. I’m using my old computer. If you solve the problem, please let us know how you did it.


44 posted on 03/02/2008 4:22:18 PM PST by a_different_conservative
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To: Viking2002

The cd that came with it is lost. I am not sure where...although I have my ideas...

so are you saying that I can use the XP pro as a boot cd as long as I do not reformat the disc? do I have a choice or is this something I am supposed to know how to stop from happening.


45 posted on 03/02/2008 4:24:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: papasmurf

One beep and then to the windows xp screen
the scan screen
then to the inconvenience screen
then looping

from post 19 am typing as fast as I can.


46 posted on 03/02/2008 4:25:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Chickensoup

What’s so wrong with the computer you’re using NOW?


47 posted on 03/02/2008 4:26:02 PM PST by Libloather (March is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Chickensoup

Boot from whatever you have. Click R to repair. Run CHKDSK first. If you have a CD you don’t need to lose your data.


48 posted on 03/02/2008 4:26:46 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: roamer_1
BUMP. The hand speaks truth.

there were times when I did this several times per day. still use the old hard drives for data storage.

Over the years I threw out three or four drives (and all their contents) at the insistance of dell techs before my warranty finally ran out and I had to figure it out myself.

49 posted on 03/02/2008 4:27:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: Slump Tester

I can use this computer

How do I copy it off?

I have dvd r’s would they work?


50 posted on 03/02/2008 4:27:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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