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Ancient Cannon Ball Explodes
strategypage.com ^ | 05/05/08 | Unknown

Posted on 05/05/2008 9:46:50 AM PDT by Abathar

May 5, 2008: The U.S. Civil War continues to kill. Sam White, a Virginia based collector of Civil War munitions, died recently while cleaning up a nine inch, 75 pound, cannon ball. White had previously restored or examined over 1,500 of these shells. But the one that killed him was different. It was fired from a ship board gun, and was designed to be more waterproof than shells used by land based artillery. This kept the fuze, and black powder explosive charge, dry and viable after 150 years. Mister White was using metal tools to clean up the shell, which apparently set off the fuze, and detonated the shell more than 150 years after it was fired off the Virginia coast.

There are still thousands of Civil War era shells buried, or sitting on the bottom off the coast. But a far more dangerous threat are unexploded munitions from more recent wars, especially the two World Wars. Over a thousand bombs, hand grenades, mines and shells from these conflicts are uncovered each year in Europe alone. Still more are unearthed in Asia and North Africa. People continue to die from the World Wars, and will for decades to come.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: dixie; dixielist; godsgravesglyphs
Interesting, he must have gotten too sloppy after all those years and forgot to put safety first.

The silver lining is at least he didn't suffer...

1 posted on 05/05/2008 9:46:50 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

I just hate it when that happens.


2 posted on 05/05/2008 9:48:39 AM PDT by scooter2 (The greatest threat to the security of the United States is the Democratic Party.)
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To: scooter2

Yep, but at least it’s a brief feeling of hate though...


3 posted on 05/05/2008 9:49:28 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Speaking for myself, I don't know that I'd want to be messing with 150 year old black powder explosives. From all I've read and heard, it takes very little to set it off.

4 posted on 05/05/2008 9:49:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Abathar
A cannonball don't pay no mind
If you're gentle or if you're kind
It don't think of the folks behind
All on a beautiful morning.
5 posted on 05/05/2008 9:55:28 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Abathar

Sam, if he’s a Virginia resident, should be counted as a Confederate casualty.


6 posted on 05/05/2008 9:57:45 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Good grief, do you know how many history books would have to be reprinted to edit that change???


7 posted on 05/05/2008 10:00:58 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Sam White to Saint Peter: “What the heck am I doing here?”


8 posted on 05/05/2008 10:01:37 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: Abathar

Well guess that answers the question of if an old civil war exploding cannon ball would still work after being buried in the Sahara sands in an Iron Clad that escaped from the South and sailed to Africa getting stranded when a river went dry.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 10:02:47 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: TexasRepublic

“And where are my eyebrows??”


10 posted on 05/05/2008 10:03:19 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Domandred

Fun movie, and I guess it does.


11 posted on 05/05/2008 10:04:28 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Domandred

Now that you mention it - Will it still explode after being stuck in the arctic ice for 200 years when clutched by a dead sailor with the key to a Mason’s treasure though?


12 posted on 05/05/2008 10:07:36 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Hmmm might have to test that one. Not sure I want to volunteer though. Don’t like cold weather.


13 posted on 05/05/2008 10:09:22 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: y'all

Dixieping for later


14 posted on 05/05/2008 10:12:16 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Abathar

Ancient? Hardly so.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 10:19:09 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Thrownatbirth
Sam, if he’s a Virginia resident, should be counted as a Confederate casualty.

What if he was a carpet-bagger, like me?

16 posted on 05/05/2008 10:22:37 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Abathar

Cannon Ball !
Coming at Ya’ !


17 posted on 05/05/2008 10:23:27 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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18 posted on 05/05/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Abathar

I’m sure he didn’t even know what hit him.


19 posted on 05/05/2008 10:31:18 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Domandred

Not to mention with a kidnapped Abraham Lincoln on board, Mr. Cussler.


20 posted on 05/05/2008 10:33:53 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: TexasRepublic
"Sam White to Saint Peter: “What the heck am I doing here?”"

St. Peter to Sam White: "Durned if I know!"

21 posted on 05/05/2008 10:34:20 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: CougarGA7
Not to mention with a kidnapped Abraham Lincoln on board, Mr. Cussler.

That was in the book. Those who just saw the movie have no idea what you're talking about.

22 posted on 05/05/2008 10:38:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dixie Yooper; TexasRepublic
What if he was a carpet-bagger, like me?

Then he will have to address his question (Sam White to Saint Peter: “What the heck am I doing here?”) to Satan.

23 posted on 05/05/2008 10:38:48 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Non-Sequitur

I know. It’s a test. Those who liked the movie (which I thought was excellent) will love the book.


24 posted on 05/05/2008 10:40:11 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Abathar

Just one question.......How does a 150 year old cannonball classify as “ancient?”


25 posted on 05/05/2008 10:43:37 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: Abathar
There are still thousands of Civil War era shells buried, or sitting on the bottom off the coast. But a far more dangerous threat are unexploded munitions from more recent wars, especially the two World Wars.

This is not correct. The more modern munitions are much harder to set off. The civil war era explosives get more unstable as time goes by.

26 posted on 05/05/2008 10:44:30 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: fredhead

Heck, when I was in high school, if you were 30 you were ancient.

Don’t think that way anymore.


27 posted on 05/05/2008 10:47:56 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: fredhead
Just one question.......How does a 150 year old cannonball classify as “ancient?”

I was wondering the same thing...probably because the reporter is 12.
28 posted on 05/05/2008 10:49:49 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: CougarGA7

What movie? I’ve avoided theaters ever since they were changed into uncomfortable little parlors with no leg room and obnoxiously loud noises and scrips that make The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew look like greatly complicated novels.


29 posted on 05/05/2008 10:54:45 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: Abathar

Antique certainly, but “ancient”?

/petty stylistic quibbling mode


30 posted on 05/05/2008 11:04:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Talk to my teenage daughters, anything or anyone older than 50 is “ancient” to them.


31 posted on 05/05/2008 11:11:18 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Okay, I give. What movie? I get the reference to National Treasure...


32 posted on 05/05/2008 11:40:16 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: IYAS9YAS

Sahara. Matthew McConaghey, William Macy, Rainn Wilson. With Pennelope Cruz as the love interest. Very, very loosely based on a Clive Cussler novel.


33 posted on 05/05/2008 11:47:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Cussler was a fool to disown that movie. Could have been a great franchise. McConaghey captured the spirit of Dirk Pitt, especially compared to the wooden Richard Jordan performance in RAISE THE TITANIC. I even bought Steve Zahn as Al Giordino after he press-checked that AK-47 he picked up during the oasis fight.

Cussler felt they weren’t taking the story seriously enough. I thought the tongue-in-cheek aspects were perfect. Cussler should read his own books.


34 posted on 05/05/2008 12:12:17 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Abathar

Ancient?


35 posted on 05/05/2008 12:18:03 PM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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To: Rinnwald

I’m currently reading Cussler’s Fire Ice. Good book so far.


36 posted on 05/05/2008 12:28:22 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: Dixie Yooper

Where should I mail this cannon ball I have for you?


37 posted on 05/05/2008 3:57:51 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: Abathar

They don’t have to stay dry, all they have to do is dry out.


38 posted on 05/05/2008 3:58:23 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Not if it is Japanese. They used pitric acid which can be far more sensitive than black powder. Then you have the mustard gas rounds from WWI and you have WP which can leak, ignite, and set off the burster. Also, a fuze may still be functional.

If you feel you have one of these at home, bring it over in the light and we will take a look at it for you.


39 posted on 05/05/2008 4:03:10 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Where should I mail this cannon ball I have for you?

Alexandria, VA Just leave it with the statue facing south on South Washington Street.

40 posted on 05/05/2008 5:53:47 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: fella

Hey, I have kids. The only movies I see in those cramped little theaters are classics like “The Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl”.

But I do rent movies to watch on my 50” plasma.


41 posted on 05/06/2008 8:50:17 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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