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Comments from an Obama voter (not trolling ) You've had your fun, ZOT!
Traviswf

Posted on 11/07/2008 10:40:35 AM PST by Traviswf

Hi there. I voted for Obama, but have been reading a lot of Freerepublic lately to see how the other side is reacting. I'm not trying to troll here - honestly - but if you feel I am, that's understandable. I just wanted to offer a perspective on this that I think may be interesting to some of you. Oh, and this is much longer than I intended. And I'm fairly certain I'm not posting this the right way...for which I apologize.

When Bush was elected in 2000, I was upset. And yes, I whined about him "stealing" the election. I don't really think that's true anymore - it was just a painful way to lose. Sure, we can whine about the popular vote vs. the electoral vote, but you can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Then I watched the movie Recount and realized just how awful the democrats were at trying to win the damn thing. Gore seemed like he didn't really want it.

When Bush won in 2004, I was absolutely devastated. I thought the world was going to end. I didn't think we should be in Iraq, I agreed with Kerry that we had to finish the fight in Afganistan. I was worried about the courts. And frankly - I just didn't like Bush. I didn't like the way he governed, the way he spoke, and the way he talked as if we on the left were less American.

On 9/11 I happened to be in Toronto on business. When the towers fell, I knew I had to get home. A colleague and I wanted to go to New York, to help in some way. But we were told nobody was getting anywhere close. Our next instinct was to get home - to California. We didn't just want to be with our families, we desperately wanted to be in our country. That day was rough because my colleague thought his wife might have been on one of the planes - her travel plans were very similar. It took hours of agony before we, thank God, found out she was safe.

So we rented a car in Toronto and drove across the country. It took a couple hours to get across the border in the middle of the night. We stopped in Omaha, and then Colorado. I can't even tell you how much I loved my country driving across its beauty in those days after the attacks. And there were no jokes about "we're in enemy territory" because we were in "red states." We were in America. Everywhere we went people said "How are you? Is everyone safe?"

I know everyone has similar stories of those days. And certainly many, many people have stories of real loss - not just "we thought we lost someone, but it was a happy ending." Then, fairly quickly, I felt my patriotism coming under attack because I had a difference of opinion about how to fight back. I didn't think Iraq was the right choice - it made no sense to me, and I certainly wasn't alone. But people questioned my love of my country. And that was very, very hard to forgive.

When 2008 came up, more than anything, I wanted to win the White House back. I wanted to punish the Bush administration for what I felt was not just a failure to be competent, but a failure to keep the country united. I inititally supported Hilary, but I had this feeling in my gut that she was just going to be Bush - but for our side. She'd be a partisan warrior, a polarizing figure (which Bush wasn't when he started, but Hilary already was...). It made me sick to my stomach.

I wanted to go back to feeling like an American in those days after the attack - where our disagreements were things we laughed about over a beer and the real threat was far, far more serious.

I'd written Obama's candidacy off as a dry run for 2016 or later. Or maybe he was running for VP. I thought - hey, dude, at least finish a term in the Senate. Then when he said "we're not a collection of red states and blue states, we're the United States of America" it hit me like lightning. It had nothing to do with him - it had to do with the country, and my love for it and this feeling deep down in my gut that we were fighting over the placement of the deck chairs while the ship was sinking.

Wow, this got really rambly. Sorry about that. Here's why I posted initially. I saw this thing on here about Obama's "national defense force" and some posters commenting about the coming civil war or some such. I'm pretty sure Obama was just talking about funding for police. I mean - are you guys really worried he's going to do this? There was a rumor on the left that Bush was bringing a military brigade trained in "riot control" home from Iraq before the elections. People were convinced Bush was going to take over the country in a military coup. I'm sure you think that's laughable - as do I. Obama is not going to raise a civilian force of brown coats. First of all there's no money for it, nobody would go for it, and he'd be laughed out of the White House.

He's also not a socialist. And he's not coming for your guns. If he did either of this things, he can basically just go home now. Those are not realistic positions for any president to have. He will likely appoint liberals - at least too liberal for you guys - to the courts.

But here's the thing. He's going to try and be a good president. I think they all do. And Obama ran on uniting the country, on being bipartisan. That's sort of ALL he ran on. It's how he won 60% of independent and brought home so many of the Clinton voters. So if he doesn't deliver on this - I imagine he'll be fairly easy to beat in 2012.

So that's my two cents. Obama was always going to get my vote as the nominee because I'm a lifelong democrat and a liberal. But I'm not a socialist or a pacifist. I believe in the 2nd amendment and favor the idea of most issues being decided by the states. I'm not a religious man, but I respect those who are and I think the Dems over reach in pushing religion out of the public square. I believe global warming is a serious problem, but I also think Al Gore enjoys it WAY too much.

And here's another caveat. I know it's easier to be bipartisan and talk about "togetherness" when my guy won. I was where you guys are now in 2000 and 2004. I mean, my party ALMOST ran Howard Dean and then said "No wait! John Kerry is a much better idea!" Or in this election to have a friend say "You've GOT to read Alec Baldwin's latest piece on HuffPo." I mean...really? He doesn't count as an "Obamacon" you know, he only plays a republican on TV...(you guys ever notice that our most annoying Hollywood liberals end up playing republicans? what's with that?)

So yeah - we've all spent some time in the woods. I just hope we can all agree that we're just as American as the other, and we're passionate about what we believe to be the right path to take. There are real problems with the economy, and Islamic Terrorists aren't going to take a vacation for four years.

That's about it I guess. Sorry you guys lost.


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1 posted on 11/07/2008 10:40:35 AM PST by Traviswf
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To: Traviswf

Obama is a fraud.


2 posted on 11/07/2008 10:41:27 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Traviswf

Where’s the ZOT gun ?


3 posted on 11/07/2008 10:41:43 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Traviswf

What a moron


4 posted on 11/07/2008 10:42:36 AM PST by clamper1797 (BHO ... the 'H" stands for hubris)
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To: Traviswf
I hope you continue to post, even though we disagree, we can agree not to be disagreeable.
5 posted on 11/07/2008 10:42:36 AM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: Traviswf

Thanks for taking the opp to post. I’m not widely liked here and heck I’m a Republican. But I do think getting a perspective like you posted is something that allows us to digest it (and yes, have a little bit of fun with it). Have a good weekend


6 posted on 11/07/2008 10:43:07 AM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: Traviswf

Oprah? Is that you?


7 posted on 11/07/2008 10:43:26 AM PST by auusn
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To: Traviswf
ZOT
8 posted on 11/07/2008 10:43:31 AM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: Traviswf

We don’t care about Obama, we know who he is. He will try his best as a President, but as a liberal. McCain was a bad choice and we want our voices to be heard. What McCain has done to Palin is horrible. Unlike liberals, we will not crucify Obama liek you guys did Bush. We put our country first. We may complain, but we do not ope for bad evcents to happen because Obama is in power. The same cannot be said of Democrats. I am sure you concur.


9 posted on 11/07/2008 10:44:41 AM PST by NotchJohnson
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“Sorry you guys lost...”

Not nearly as sorry as you’re gonna be. Trust me on that.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 10:44:49 AM PST by justkate
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To: Traviswf

My first impulse is to tell you to kill yourself but I hope you suffer long and hard over the next for years. Then you can go kill yourself.


11 posted on 11/07/2008 10:45:01 AM PST by DogBarkTree (I blame McCain for Palin’s loss)
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To: Traviswf

I’m new to FR, but hey, as long as you’re civil. I’m big enough to read an opposing view...unlike Kos and HuffHo.


12 posted on 11/07/2008 10:45:41 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Traviswf
He's also not a socialist. And he's not coming for your guns.

Riiiiight.

Say that crap in a couple of years.

13 posted on 11/07/2008 10:45:46 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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This is who you stand with

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/06/new-national-anthem-my-president-is-black/


14 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:19 AM PST by listenhillary (That giant sucking sound? It's only the government consuming the fruits of our labor.)
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To: Traviswf
He's also not a socialist.

"Forced redistribution of wealth, from the more productive to the less productive -- solely on the grounds that the latter has an inherent right to take from the former -- is another way of saying ___________."

Fill in the blank.

15 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:32 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: Traviswf
He's also not a socialist. And he's not coming for your guns. If he did either of this things, he can basically just go home now.

You people really just don't get it --- that's exactly what Senator "Coke-head" Obama is, and he is most certainly going to launch a full-blown assault on the RKBA.

I hope that you wake up one day, but I am afraid it's going to be too late --- you have a radical left President, and the Congress is in the hands of an equally left-wing Speaker Pelosi and Senator Harry Reid. If you thought you were voting for anything else, you are sadly deluded; perhaps you should have bothered to at least read Senator Obama's website before you miscast your vote.

Anyway, welcome to Free Republic. I hope your stay is short.

16 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:36 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Traviswf
But here's the thing. He's going to try and be a good president. I think they all do. And Obama ran on uniting the country, on being bipartisan. That's sort of ALL he ran on. It's how he won 60% of independent and brought home so many of the Clinton voters. So if he doesn't deliver on this - I imagine he'll be fairly easy to beat in 2012.

You do know who he appointed as his chief of staff, right?

17 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:40 AM PST by 14erClimb (Sarah Palin: Ronald Reagan in a skirt!)
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To: Traviswf
"When 2008 came up, more than anything, I wanted to win the White House back. I wanted to punish the Bush administration for what I felt"

Your logic is impeccable. /sarc
Rational thought and recognition of real world concerns will hit us all soon enough, thanks to people who felt and did not think. Do some reading on communist societies throughout history. The pain, death, and general turmoil that they have always created. When the $hit hits the fan, look in the mirror for blame.
18 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:45 AM PST by allmost
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To: Traviswf
He's also not a socialist. And he's not coming for your guns.

Both are untrue statements. Witness his "spread the wealth" mantra, and he verbally admitted that he wouldn't have the votes to confiscate guns.

May I safely assume you support infanticide?

19 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:49 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> We didn't lose anything. America suffered a small setback, but she will recover and be stronger than ever.
20 posted on 11/07/2008 10:46:51 AM PST by armyofprinciples (I dressed as 0bama for Halloween. I disguised myself as a Christian.)
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