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Paper: Man forced to support someone else's child (And jailed. Similar name)
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 6, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 12/06/2008 1:42:49 PM PST by decimon

HARRISBURG, Pa. – A Philadelphia man was forced to pay more than $12,000 in child support for another man's daughter and spent two years in jail for falling behind on payments.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: andresharpe; childsupport; childsupportdispute; injustice; pa; paternity; pennsylvania; philadelphia; waltersharpe
Looks like the welfare agency created another client.
1 posted on 12/06/2008 1:42:49 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Where I used to work there was an illegal alien who used someone else’s SS# and had to pay his child support or be fired.


2 posted on 12/06/2008 1:51:18 PM PST by raybbr
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To: decimon

How can this be? Did he have an attorney? Did they do DNA testing which would have showed who the biological father is? This seems to bizarre that somebody would go to jail over this.


3 posted on 12/06/2008 1:52:23 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: raybbr
Where I used to work there was an illegal alien who used someone else's SS# and had to pay his child support or be fired.

The luck of the draw.

Maybe I can find some illegal to pay my mortgage.

4 posted on 12/06/2008 1:56:26 PM PST by decimon
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"bizarre"?

It's not bizarre, it's the law. If you are looking for justice, you have to pay for any and all that you get.

5 posted on 12/06/2008 1:57:54 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I didn’t read it. But I know that if a guy lives with a chick long enough to get commonlaw marriage, and during that time, the chick gets pregnant and has a kid and she has no idea WHO the father is(ie she’s a slutty whore), the guy she lives with will be stuck with the child support.

It has happened before.

The government will use whatever means possible to make someone responsible for supporting the kid. THey don’t care who, as long as it isn’t the government.


6 posted on 12/06/2008 1:58:09 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Did he have an attorney?

Dunno. I would have had a lawyer.

Did they do DNA testing...

The article says he was disallowed that by duh judge.

7 posted on 12/06/2008 1:58:58 PM PST by decimon
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"How can this be? Did he have an attorney? Did they do DNA testing which would have showed who the biological father is? This seems to bizarre that somebody would go to jail over this."

In many cases, women have children by men other than the men designated by them as the fathers. That way, women can choose as to who will pay the support/alimony as differentiated from the men that the women have sex with. DNA cases have been denied by many judges. It's the law.

It's one of many government social measures that keep working class families divided and keeps the associated men from rising to compete in business. It's only a small part of a class war that was started a long time ago.


8 posted on 12/06/2008 1:59:50 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: decimon
Walter Sharpe, who was already supporting four children from a previous marriage,

So the guy is a dirty dog. Doesn't mean he should be forced to support another man's bastard.

Petitions he filed for DNA testing were opposed by the court's domestic relations officials and denied by the judge.

Make DNA testing mandatory.

In May 2007, the paternity order against Walter Sharpe was overturned after the girl's mother and grandmother failed to show up to a court hearing. But the judge ruled in October that Walter Sharpe was not entitled to compensation.

Make compensation mandatory.

Family courts and juvenile courts can be hell. Filled with bias and Catch-22's.

9 posted on 12/06/2008 2:02:01 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I didn’t read it. But I know that if a guy lives with a chick long enough to get commonlaw marriage, and during that time, the chick gets pregnant and has a kid and she has no idea WHO the father is(ie she’s a slutty whore), the guy she lives with will be stuck with the child support.

According to the article he had nothing to do with the mother. The actual father said he always supported the child and that she, the child, is living with him and about to graduate high school.

10 posted on 12/06/2008 2:02:27 PM PST by decimon
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To: raybbr

Now that was poetic justice ....


11 posted on 12/06/2008 2:02:27 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: familyop

It’s so hard to believe that this can happen. I mean, with DNA testing available, it’s hard to believe that judges would disallow the possibility of testing and just take a woman’s word as to who the father is.

Maybe a lesson for everyone is be careful who you get involved with, be careful who you live with, be careful who you sleep with.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 2:03:04 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: decimon
From an earlier story giving more detailed background:

Man pays for county mistake

He lands in jail and loses job over wrong ID in support case

When Walter Sharpe received the certified letter on Feb. 6, 2001, he knew the complaint for child support was a mistake.

Andre Sharpe had a different date of birth, a different Social Security number and different previous addresses.

Andre Sharpe also had an 11-year-old daughter with a woman in Harrisburg, and Walter Sharpe knew he had been to Harrisburg only once, to register a car. He also knew he hadn't fathered a child to a woman named Terri Jones on that trip.

So he ignored it.

Big mistake.

The letter required Andre Sharpe to attend a Domestic Relations conference on March 6, 2001.

On May 29, 2001, since neither man attended the conference, Dauphin County Judge Scott A. Evans, as required by law, issued a ruling finding that Walter Andre Sharpe was the father.

A month later, Domestic Relations entered an order requiring him to pay $447 a month support along with $5,730 in arrears.

When the agency attached his wages at the trash company J.P. Mascaro & Sons, Walter Sharpe told his boss there was a mistake. He then received a notice from Domestic Relations telling him to come in to verify his claim of mistaken identity.

Instead of fixing the error, the office changed the personal information on the case to match his, Tanner, his attorney, said in court documents.

continued at http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1226722211104830.xml&coll=1

13 posted on 12/06/2008 2:04:19 PM PST by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: CE2949BB
Walter Sharpe, who was already supporting four children from a previous marriage,

So the guy is a dirty dog. Doesn't mean he should be forced to support another man's bastard.

Why is he a dirty dog and where did you get that the other kid is a bastard? I didn't see anything in the article to indicate either.

14 posted on 12/06/2008 2:06:02 PM PST by decimon
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To: raybbr

Delicious!


15 posted on 12/06/2008 2:06:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Paladin2

The girl’s father was Andre Sharpe. They jailed Edward Sharpe. Bizarre.


16 posted on 12/06/2008 2:08:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: raybbr; decimon; SkyDancer

“...or be fired”

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I think I would’ve chosen “fired”.


17 posted on 12/06/2008 2:10:07 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Paladin2

Sorry. Edward Sharpe signed for the letter and they jailed Walter Sharpe. Confused yet?


18 posted on 12/06/2008 2:10:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: decimon
Misread the marriage line. Thought it said marriages.

As for the bastard status of the other kid, that's an assumption.

19 posted on 12/06/2008 2:10:20 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: decimon

Don’t we all? Around here it’s called welfare. And you go to jail if you don’t pay it [taxes] too.


20 posted on 12/06/2008 2:12:43 PM PST by Phoenix11
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To: familyop

This was a case of mistaken identity and bureaucrats who didn’t care. You have to read the whole article. It’s outrageous!


21 posted on 12/06/2008 2:13:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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A note to remember. If you are going to get separated and/or divorced, do yourself a favor and work out child support payments without a lawyer or the state court system if possible. When myself and my ex split we worked out something that was fair. Let’s just say the court system was not happy with us. We both got letters from the state looking to be the go-between for us. Multiple letters. I know sometimes it’s impossible to work something out with an ex, but if you can, you will save yourself a big headache and maybe some money too.


22 posted on 12/06/2008 2:14:10 PM PST by GQuagmire ( A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.)
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To: CE2949BB
As for the bastard status of the other kid, that's an assumption.

As per post #13, that may be so. That link isn't loading for me so I can't yet tell.

23 posted on 12/06/2008 2:15:39 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
I know someone who almost had a similar thing happen.

In his case, he got a letter from the DA of Los Angeles informing him that he owed $60,000 in back child support, and they sent him payment coupons (he did not live in LA, but did live in California).

The first thing he did was call the people who sent the letter. He found out that they only matched his first and last name on DMV records, but not the different middle names because the DMV search didn't allow for that. They had the true father's SSN, but didn't match on that, either.

My friend was advised to call the LA police and report this as a mistaken identity, which he did. They asked that he fax his drivers license to them to prove his identity, which he did. That seemed to resolve the problem.

Then, a few months later, he received another letter, this time from Trenton, NJ. It seems that the mother lives there, and initially reported the deliquency to the local NJ officials, who mistakenly found the California name. When California initially reported the "find" back to NJ, NJ Family Services then sent an additional arrears notice for $25,000 more.

The bottom line is that my friend's initial contacting of the parties cleared the whole thing up, unlike this story where the guy just ignored it. The postscript to this is that a month later, my friend got some collection calls for unpaid credit cards from the same deadbeat dad, and had to clear that up, too.

-PJ

24 posted on 12/06/2008 2:16:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

They didn’t care (as happens in thousands of cases each year), because they are involved in an old and massive wealth redistribution scheme. Most of the money goes to them (lawyers, bureaucrats,...), and some of it goes to the ex-wives-ex-girlfriends, who borrow to spend on crap instead of starting businesses with it. Like I said,...keeps the potential competition down. That’s why our bosses, besides being such limp-wristed, social lefty-nancies, support it all of the way.


25 posted on 12/06/2008 2:18:40 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This seems to bizarre that somebody would go to jail over this.

The Femninazi controlled Family Law practice doesn't care WHAT man gets screwed, just as long as it is A man.

26 posted on 12/06/2008 2:19:49 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: mamelukesabre

Maybe that illegal thought it was a fine for being here ...


27 posted on 12/06/2008 2:22:08 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This seems to bizarre that somebody would go to jail over this.

Nothing's bizarre as long as lawyers are allowed to exist. 

28 posted on 12/06/2008 2:28:09 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Stupid people shouldn't breed.)
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To: SkyDancer

Maybe it was less than his real child support payments!


29 posted on 12/06/2008 2:31:52 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: decimon

There is something more here we are not being told. Would not the mother know that this was the wrong man? If he didn’t even know the woman how could the child be his?

It makes no sense that a judge would not allow a DNA test to be done. At the end of the article did it say that the girl lived with him now? Strange. It would take some overzealous prosecutors and and a very idiotic judge for this to have ever occurred.


30 posted on 12/06/2008 2:39:26 PM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: decimon
Sharpe's troubles began in 2001, when he signed for a certified letter addressed to Andre Sharpe, the girl's father. The letter ordered Andre Sharpe to attend a child support conference in Dauphin County, where the girl's mother lived at the time.

The real problem seems to be that he ignored the initial summons (and then didn't bother to fight the garnishment for years). Our legal system is not friendly toward people who fail to contest a claim in a timely manner. In a sense it makes sense--you can't have people ignoring suits and then relitigating them on their own time--but to irrevocably declare someone the father and then send him to jail seems to be a little much.

31 posted on 12/06/2008 2:45:24 PM PST by Arguendo
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To: decimon

This is what government does, and this is why there is a 2nd Amendment.


32 posted on 12/06/2008 2:48:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Arguendo
...but to irrevocably declare someone the father and then send him to jail seems to be a little much.

Ya think...??

33 posted on 12/06/2008 2:50:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: WildcatClan
Would not the mother know that this was the wrong man?

She was out of the picture. The welfare agency mistakenly identified the wrong man as the father.

At the end of the article did it say that the girl lived with him now?

The girl lives with her actual father, Andre Sharpe and not the subject of the article, Walter Andre Sharpe.

34 posted on 12/06/2008 2:53:23 PM PST by decimon
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To: Lancey Howard
This is what government does, and this is why there is a 2nd Amendment.

What you suggest would have gotten the guy dead.

35 posted on 12/06/2008 2:55:22 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

I need a new scorecard. I messed mine all up trying to follow this story . . .


36 posted on 12/06/2008 3:01:56 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan
I need a new scorecard. I messed mine all up trying to follow this story . . .

You don't work at a welfare agency, do you? ;-)

37 posted on 12/06/2008 3:07:50 PM PST by decimon
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Maybe a lesson for everyone is be careful who you get involved with, be careful who you live with, be careful who you sleep with.

And, as in this case, be careful what your parents name you.

38 posted on 12/06/2008 3:12:43 PM PST by Bob
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To: freedumb2003

Bernie Goldberg in one of his books tells of a case in California where a man was wrongly identified as the father by a woman he had never had any contact with (maybe the real father had the same name). He was supposed to have 30 days to fight it but didn’t learn about the situation until the 30 days were already up, so he was out of luck and forced to pay child support. The legislature finally passed a law to help men who were wrongly identified as fathers, but Gray Davis vetoed it to please the feminists.


39 posted on 12/06/2008 3:23:56 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: mamelukesabre
The government will use whatever means possible to make someone responsible for supporting the kid.

What about all these young girls who have three kids by three different fathers by the time they are twenty? Do they go after the fathers?

42 posted on 12/06/2008 4:10:08 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Do they go after the fathers?
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Huh? Who do you mean by “they”?


43 posted on 12/06/2008 4:24:28 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

The Feminazis, who are hell-bent on the wussification of America.

And the gelded girly-men, (like our new “president”), who go along with them.


44 posted on 12/06/2008 5:08:04 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Petitions he filed for DNA testing were opposed by the court’s domestic relations officials and denied by the judge.”


45 posted on 12/06/2008 7:28:51 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Rather sad that our justice system is more concerned with finding *some* male to pay up than justice.


46 posted on 12/06/2008 8:01:06 PM PST by Oyarsa
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