Posted on 12/19/2008 2:10:53 PM PST by decimon
he California Highway Patrol in the High Desert and the Twentynine Palms Marine Base are receiving dozens of calls complaining about a controversial DUI checkpoint. Military Police joined the CHP for a recent checkpoint in Yucca Valley.
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Probably to help the Marines train to run checkpoints overseas like Iraq.
So it begins. We would like to see your papers please.
A coupla comments say MPs know how to do sobriety tests; that it's part of their training. That makes sense to me.
But SP is a detail and not an MOS, no?
You watch too many movies.
At this stage of the game, I’d trust the professionalism of the Marines over the police when it comes to checkpoints.
That being said, I take a dim view of local police allowing Marines to observe a checkpoint. It’s fine line too easily crossed when it comes to Posse Comitatus and the military being directly involved with civilian law enforcement.
The cops say they invited the Marines. What I’d like to know is why the Marines didn’t invite the police on base to give them pointers when it comes to field sobriety tests?
True, they will probably say “we would like to see your license, registration papers, and proof of insurance.”
Do the military branches send their police, into towns where the servicemen visit?
Shore Patrol, MPs etc? I thought they DID.
In my time the military person belonged to the US government 24/7.
Maybe the local town has had a lot of DUIs from Marines. Maybe they requested some help with “your people.”
I have no problem with this. I’m sure that the CHP is the lead, pulls over the driver, determines if they are civilian or military.
If the driver is military, the Shore Patrol or MPs step in.
Be very certain that if caught driving drunk, they are violating a lawful direct order from their commanders. Unit, base, etc.
It is easy to just get pointers, what they are probably observing is how people react at checkpoints. You can't just describe nonverbal queues and many you really can't fake. It is a term we use a lot called 'Educhaos', learning through the 'chaos' of real life. People react in unexpected ways that you can't put in a book or just describe, but you need to physically observe.
No worries, mate. This’ll all be peachy when it’s a joint CHP/ObamaCorps checkpoint operation. There won’t be but a few complaint calls then, and they’ll be quickly taken care of.
I can say from experience that MPs couldn’t arrest civilians even at the Pentagon. If attacked, they could noggin-knot them with nightsticks but not arrest them. US Marshals were there for that. This was in 1967.
It began a few years ago when the courts said we could be searched at such checkpoints.
If people would read the ENTIRE article — they would see there is no cause for concern.... NONE.
Boy that President Elect is not wasting anytime.
I can easily agree with that. And I can easily see the explanation being true....as long as it doesn’t become a commonplace event.
To me, it’s the kind of thing one needs to keep a close eye on.
ahh come on, let them have their paranoid knee jerk reaction..
>>>>>Probably okay, I stood Shore Patrol duty with CHIP(monks) in San Diego when stationed there.<<<<<
Hey, weren’t you that swabbie who once carded me for that 3.2 “beer” I was drinking at NTC?
;-)
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