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Vanity Q: Obama's sister's claims??
Me | 12/28/2008 | Me

Posted on 12/28/2008 9:56:54 AM PST by Proud2BAmerican

I don't know if this is the proper way to format a vanity, but I figured someone on FR would know the answer to this question.

I have seen in many Obama-birth-certificate-related articles the claim that Maya Soetoro-Ng has given two different locations for the birth hospital of Obama. Most recently I've seen this claim made in World Net Daily articles on the subject.

The problem is that I've been unable to verify this was the case. I've contacted WND, and they've ignored me -- I simply asked for attribution. No response thus far.

Does anyone have any reliable proof that Soetoro-Ng has, on different occasions, given different answers to the question of which hospital Obamaw was born in? I am talking about the original articles that quote her on this subject, or the original author who claims she told him/her this.

Thanks ahead of time.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; maya; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; soetoro; soetorong

1 posted on 12/28/2008 9:56:55 AM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Proud2BAmerican

try a search on YouTube,duh


2 posted on 12/28/2008 10:04:10 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: Proud2BAmerican

Obama’s sister gave an interview to a magazine in 2004 in which she said that Jr was born at Queen’s Medical Center. The magazine had the name Rainbow in it, I can’t recall its’ exact name.
By 2007 she gave an interview to yet another media source and said he was born at Kapiolani Women’s and Children’s Hospital. You may try a google or metacrawler search for “Maya Soetoro Ng 2004 interview” and then update the request to the more recent interview. I suggest you use metacrawler as they provide links to sources different than those found with a google search.
Even different country wiki posts show this discrepancy of birth place.


3 posted on 12/28/2008 10:19:25 AM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Were his place of birth not problematic, these questions would have immediately been cleared up. I regard this whole thing as a winnowing away of our Constitution's authority regarding a Presidential candidate's place of birth. This matter, having been allowed to progress to its present state, is only the beginning of our Constitution's erosion.

The U.S. Supreme court is complicit in this matter. They know or, in the very least, must have strong suspicions regarding this matter and yet choose to ignore it.

4 posted on 12/28/2008 10:40:02 AM PST by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: Proud2BAmerican
"This is a place that's been relatively unchanged for him, and so much of who he is was born here," Soetoro-Ng told a crowd of about 200 people eating "OBAMAsadas."

"He was born in Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children, two blocks up from where our grandmother still resides ... the place where he used to stick orange peels under his bed, where it got all dried out and ... nasty."

Here's one quote. I believe that the Honolulu Star-Bulletin is regular newspaper.

A reply above gave the name of the second hospital.

5 posted on 12/28/2008 10:54:59 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Proud2BAmerican
In a November 2004 interview with the Rainbow Newsletter, Maya told reporters her half-brother Sen. Barack Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961, at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu; then in February 2008, Maya told reporters for the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that Obama was at the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children.

This is from World Net Daily. See, WND ain't so bad.

6 posted on 12/28/2008 11:00:59 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Proud2BAmerican; BIGLOOK

Ping.


7 posted on 12/28/2008 11:04:38 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Proud2BAmerican
WND: "If an original Hawaii-doctor-generated and Hawaii-hospital-released Obama birth certificate exists, why wouldn't the senator and his campaign simply order the document released and end the controversy?"

All we are saying is
Give surcease a chance

8 posted on 12/28/2008 11:05:57 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Why would anyone view YouTube as a prime research tool? According to YouTube videos everyone killed in or by Iraq over the last 40 years was the fault of the US and all of the chemical weapons Saddam had were sold to him by the US.


9 posted on 12/28/2008 11:20:59 AM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: davisfh

Bingo! We’re setting a precedent here. From this point on, candidates will not need to meet requirements, Constitutional or other. The “will of the people” will supercede the law. Once our legal foundation is gone, we will have anarchy. It’s happening already, as laws aren’t enforced with consistency or fairness.
This is why the birth certificate issue is important.


10 posted on 12/28/2008 11:22:26 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: SlapHappyPappy

Your question is a valid one fer’shure...just sittin’in the rocking chair up here on my front porch in Vermont


11 posted on 12/28/2008 11:23:48 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

“Why would anyone view YouTube as a prime research tool?”

If you see video of someone in the flesh saying what they know to be true, then it’s a valid source. If it was a 2nd or 3rd hand account it would be different. No doubt some of these are faked, but that usually ends up being revealed...sooner or later.


12 posted on 12/28/2008 11:50:28 AM PST by Twotone
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To: ElayneJ
RE: "need to meet requirements, Constitutional or other."

Certainly there's no need for some to meet those pesky requirements.

To hold Obama accountable for anything could cause "a constitutional crisis" and we can't have that. Can we?

(Gotta be careful with that Chicago investigation lest it leads to Obama and cause "a constitutional crisis," say some pundits.)

Constitutional crisis. Hey! It's better than screaming, "Racist!" Screaming "Racist!" is soooooooooo 20th century -- it's good to see that the lefties have updated their attack technology.

13 posted on 12/28/2008 11:57:18 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Twotone

You clearly didn’t read more than that one sentence.

Go watch a Michael Moore movie and tell me you can see someone on film say something and be sure it’s true. YouTube videos regularly make Michael Moore films seem honest.


14 posted on 12/28/2008 12:05:00 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Proud2BAmerican

I would think the Philip Berg lawsuit would be a good place to start researching this. His website is obamacrimes.com and has a section dedicated to all the court filings.


15 posted on 12/28/2008 12:30:21 PM PST by freespirited (Compassionate conservatism is liberalism dressed up for Halloween.)
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To: freespirited
The research is done though of course additional confirmation is always desirable.

WND has a search facility and of course there's always the search engines. Please see my reply #6.

16 posted on 12/28/2008 12:56:14 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Check Jeff Head dot com and The Obama File for information. Book Mark 'em.
17 posted on 12/28/2008 2:31:47 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated; All
Additional confirmation is always desirable especially good ones like the ones you listed.

WND has a search facility and of course there's always the search engines. Both find the proof.

Please see my replies #5 and #6. Those were found with google and #6 was a link to WND itself. I could have started with WND.

I am compelled to post this reply to you, et al in hopes that the Freepers who malign WND might see this and thus get a clue.

18 posted on 12/28/2008 2:49:11 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Proud2BAmerican; Chief Engineer; LucyT

Chief, have you anything in your research that may throw some light on this question? If I attempt to reply I will only create more confusion. I’m reminded of the Nordyke article, how she ‘met Madelyn on a cruise’ in 2002 when Madelyn told her that her grandson was a ‘social worker’ at a time he was already a Senator. How Mrs Nordyke maintained she gave birth to twins in the same hospital at the same time Stanley Anne gave birth to obama. How Mrs Nordyke’s husband turned out to be an MD with a practise in the same street (not the same number) as the address on the ‘birth announcement’ in the two Hawaii newspapers...and the hospital referred to didn’t exist in 1961.

How’s that from memory? LOL!


19 posted on 12/28/2008 3:47:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Excellent memory LOL The husband was an M.D. but it wasn’t him with the office on Kalanianaole Hwy but one of the sons. Dr. Nordyke has been dead for awhile but it is quite possible the article with Mrs Ellen Nordyke was a plant to prepare people for having the original birth certificate suddenly being released only to discover that Dr. Nordyke is listed as the attending physician at Jr’s birth. There was a great deal about the article on the Nordyke twins which didn’t add up including Madelyn going on a cruise in 2002 in her 80th year and mentioning her son was a social worker when he was actually a state senator; no twin white girls in the kindergarten class photo in which Jr was present: and no Nordyke twins listed in either of the papers as being born August 5,1961.


20 posted on 12/28/2008 4:07:02 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; Proud2BAmerican; LucyT

thanks, Chief.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2155248/posts?page=20#20


21 posted on 12/28/2008 4:30:51 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

I have also discovered that Maya often paraphrases information which she gleaned either from Jr’s book or from Jr himself. In their release upon the death of grandma both mentioned that Grandma and Grandpa had come to Hawaii in 1959 soon aftr HI was admitted to the U.S. as a state. That is information which is prominently featured in Jr’s book but having researched it, we know that the Dunhams actually moved to HI in June of 1960 after Ann graduated from Mercer Island High School. Neither Jr nor his sister are too interested in being factual when it comes to dates, which is surprising to me considering Maya is a history teacher!(little interesting tidbit I read a short time ago is that Maya mentioned how she teaches her students the importance of the Constitution) So many things which have been said by Jr have been proven to be false that I am surprised others haven’t called him on it, but then again when the presstitutes think he is the answer to all things and all people I supposed I shouldn’t express any surprise whatsoever!


22 posted on 12/28/2008 5:34:54 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer
...In their release upon the death of grandma both mentioned that Grandma and Grandpa had come to Hawaii in 1959 soon aftr HI was admitted to the U.S. as a state. That is information which is prominently featured in Jr’s book but having researched it, we know that the Dunhams actually moved to HI in June of 1960 after Ann graduated from Mercer Island High School...

That's the timeline they want/need us to believe, because it's in that time the conception and birth took place. That's when the fiction of the father appears...and the subsequent mystery of his place of birth.

23 posted on 12/28/2008 5:57:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Bookmark.


24 posted on 12/28/2008 9:18:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Proud2BAmerican
try this
25 posted on 12/28/2008 11:32:58 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: davisfh

I agree. I would hate to be the justice that swears this man in.


26 posted on 12/29/2008 4:16:33 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: smokingfrog
FYI and others who might read this plus to clarify a misconception about WND: you can use the WND Search facility to find the information.

For example, Obama Maya birth, returns a list of articles. By sorting on Search Score the article I quote in reply #6 has the highest score and is Number 1 on the list.

27 posted on 12/29/2008 4:39:23 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Chief Engineer

Off topic but have you seen an image of Maya’s COLB? I’ve read it was used as the basis for the KOS image of Barack’s COLB.


28 posted on 12/29/2008 6:52:05 AM PST by tyou48
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To: tyou48

The story revolving around Maya’s Certification of Live Birth being used for the basis to make the KOS image was presented by techdude who posted at Texas Darling and Atlas Shrugged. When he disappeared without presenting a final report his earlier claims were removed as they could not be proven.


29 posted on 12/29/2008 10:59:04 AM PST by Chief Engineer
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