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Sharing between Vista and XP

Posted on 01/07/2009 3:22:47 PM PST by pctech

I don't know if this has been talked about here on FR (I assume it has but I couldn't find a thread on it) but I have been trying to get file sharing to work between Windows XP and Vista. I got all the correct network protocols installed on my XP computer but I couldn't get it to see the lone Vista computer on the network.

Before you ask, my son has to run Vista because of network requirements at Purdue University. When he brings his computer home it messes up the entire network since I'm running XP on all my other computers.

Then it hit me, maybe my anti-virus / firewall is causing the problem. I've been running AVG 8.0 for a year or so now on all my XP computers but I don't remember having the problems before having a Vista computer on the network. Last night I uninstalled AVG from my computer and when I did then all the computers on the network showed up on my XP computer.

So I got online last night and I noticed that there is a setting in AVG to ensure file sharing works correctly. When I set it to ensure file and printer sharing worked correctly, I'm still not seeing the Vista computer unless I do a search for it through the Start/Run command.

During my search online I found out that people are starting to endorse Avast over AVG, and that Avast isn't as complicated to operate as AVG is getting to be and file sharing isn't affected. I wanted to find out what people think about both programs before I make a decision to switch from one to the other. Perhaps someone knows something about AVG that will help me and I won't have to.

Thanks for any input you all can lend me.

Cheers!


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To: pctech

Temporarily disable the firewall on each computer and check again to see if the Vista shares are visible/ available. If they are then the firewall(s) are blocking file sharing and/or untrusted IP addresses. The firewall trust settings will need to be adjusted or leave them turned off (not recommended) while sharing.


21 posted on 01/07/2009 4:05:38 PM PST by Kolb (Use wisely your power of choice)
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To: 21stCenturion

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22 posted on 01/07/2009 4:05:41 PM PST by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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To: pctech

You can do it but you’ll have to give MS a lien on your soul.

Who knows the implications of some of the more gruesome occult rites involved in the ‘end user soul lien buy-back work around’...it’s got to leave a mark.


23 posted on 01/07/2009 4:06:20 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: pctech

we networked a xp and a vista at work. it did not work. we were told by microsoft that it would not network. when we networked them things on the xp would just dissappear. i kept accusing my secretary of deleting things. microsoft said there were many problems networking the two. that was about 1 year ago


24 posted on 01/07/2009 4:10:30 PM PST by junkyarddawg
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To: pctech
WinXP machines require a client to access Vista shares. It's called the Link Layer Topology Discovery Responder client. Here's the instructions and a link to the client that you'll need to download onto your XP machines.

Solution

For computers running Windows XP to appear on the Network Map diagram, you must download and install the LLTD Responder component for WindowsXP. With the LLTD Responder, a computer running Windows XP can respond to other Windows Vista computers on the network that are attempting to create a network map.

To install the LLTD Responder to a computer running Windows XP

1. Download the update for Windows XP from http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70582

2. Run the update on the computer running Windows XP that you want to appear on the Network Map.

3. On the Software Update Installation Wizard, click Next.

4. On the License Agreement page, read the license agreement, and if you agree to the terms, click I Agree, and then click Next.

5. On the final page of the wizard, click Finish.

6. If you are prompted to do so, restart your computer. 7. After your computer running Windows XP restarts, generate a new Network Map with the computer running Windows XP included.

Download and install Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) onto the WinXP machines. This enables the network map in Vista to show all machines on the network.

Link to LLTD Client for WinXP Machines.

25 posted on 01/07/2009 4:11:23 PM PST by usconservative (My Plan For Government Reform: Hangings on Thursday, Trials on Friday.)
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To: junkyarddawg
Whoever from Microsoft told you that XP and Vista cannot share files and printers should be fired. They have no clue what they're talking about.

Microsoft addressed this interoperability issue with the LLTD client shortly after Vista was released. See my post above if you're still having issues getting Vista and XP to work together. I use Vista Business Ultimate at home, my wife's and kids computers are XP. We all see each others shared drives and printers just fine with the LLTD client installed on the XP machines.

26 posted on 01/07/2009 4:14:34 PM PST by usconservative (My Plan For Government Reform: Hangings on Thursday, Trials on Friday.)
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To: usconservative

i am going to keep your post in case i have to network with a vista in the future. i hate calling microsoft it is a hit or miss. you may get a good one or not. you would think they would have people who knew.


27 posted on 01/07/2009 4:23:34 PM PST by junkyarddawg
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To: McGruff

Yeah, I was helping a friend and it was that simple if I recall. There was also a reg fix to a related issue with the sharing locations. I am trying to look that up too.


28 posted on 01/07/2009 4:28:28 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: usconservative

I’ve done all of this, I even ensured I downloaded version 6 of the LLTD. It’s baffling; if I do a network map in Vista I can all of the items. But if I just try to normally view the network through either Windows Explorer or by double clicking on the Network Icon, the only computer that shows up is the Vista machine I’m on.


29 posted on 01/07/2009 4:50:48 PM PST by pctech
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To: usconservative

Thanks for the help. I can see my XP machine with my Vista machine. How do I enable all file sharing so I can see all of my XP files instead of just the Shared Documents?


30 posted on 01/07/2009 6:19:10 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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31 posted on 01/07/2009 6:23:45 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: pctech
Then it hit me, maybe my anti-virus / firewall is causing the problem. I've been running AVG 8.0 for a year

AVG is a firewall?

32 posted on 01/07/2009 6:26:30 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: pctech

bump


33 posted on 01/07/2009 6:28:18 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: pctech

I can see, after following the advice on this thread, files back and forth from my Vista to XP machine.


34 posted on 01/07/2009 6:58:46 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: martin_fierro
Yes, AVG has had a firewall for some time now. I mainly used the antivirus until I couldn't find a firewall that worked with XP 64 bit and at the time AVG was the only one that worked worth a hoot. Forget Zonealarm. Now I'm still having problems getting my Vista machine to see XP and visa versa. It's maddening, even after all the advise and technical data shared here, my Vista laptop won't see any XP machine, my XP machine will see the Vista laptop but not my son's Vista computer, and my son's Vista computer, man, I'm not sure what it will see at this point.

I wish I could give Gates a kick upside the head right now.

35 posted on 01/08/2009 5:00:19 AM PST by pctech
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To: usconservative

Wow. Good thing MS-Windows is so user friendly, otherwise people might be tempted to use Linux or OSX


36 posted on 01/08/2009 7:34:25 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: junkyarddawg

I share files all the time between XP and Vista. Vista’s security is a lot tighter than XP’s. I just set up the shares and looked for the box in Network.


37 posted on 01/08/2009 7:38:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: raybbr

“How do I enable all file sharing so I can see all of my XP files instead of just the Shared Documents?”

\\machine\c$ ?


38 posted on 01/08/2009 7:40:24 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
“How do I enable all file sharing so I can see all of my XP files instead of just the Shared Documents?” \\machine\c$ ?

I finally figured it out. You have to right click on the drive and the enable sharing. Or, you can do that for individual folders.

39 posted on 01/08/2009 7:47:38 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: usconservative
Download and install Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) onto the WinXP machines.

You are so right. This is the key. If you don't do this Vista will not share with XP!

40 posted on 01/08/2009 7:58:13 AM PST by Walmartian
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