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Why Obama has already lost in Supreme Court v Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro et al
Anti Mullah Blog ^ | 1/11/09 | Tom Waite

Posted on 01/11/2009 9:18:59 AM PST by FreeManN

I’m smiling so much now because all this time Barack Obama has hired teams of lawyers to go to court and ask to dismiss all these lawsuits that have one similar theme—show proof you were born in the United States.

But now because just one of these ‘nuisance’ cases (as Obama sees it) has made it to the Supreme Court, the Justices have already out manoeuvred Obama and his team of high priced attorneys.

First, they’ve cornered Obama with a move of check by setting a conference date of January 9th (24 hours after congress counts the Electoral College’s votes) to discuss Berg’s writ of certiorari; the case can’t be dismissed—Berg will have legal standing!

And finally the Supreme Court has made its devastating move of checkmate by allowing a conference on January 16th to discuss Berg’s injunction to stop congress in counting the Electoral College’s votes!

There’s no more wriggle room left for Obama because essentially it’s a fait accompli by January 9th for him to hand over his evidence to the Justices otherwise, if he doesn’t comply by January 16th, the Justices’ will have it within their power to retroactively cancel the results from the January 8th Electoral College’s vote count!

So Obama tried to play a game of legal chess against the Supreme Court—well guess what? Obama—you’ve already lost! Checkmate!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; obamaillegal; obamanoncitizenissue; scotus; tinfoilalert; tinfoilhat; trolldeniers
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To: al baby

Correct! Adds strength to the suggestion that Obama is hiding his original birth certificate because he is NOT eligible to be President. Note the amount of legal fees he’s paid to keep it hidden.


101 posted on 01/11/2009 12:24:30 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Waco

Yes, the Supremes take an oath to uphold the Constitution as do all the members of the Military.

bo’s problem is that the only way for the Supremes and the Military to uphold their oaths is to either find bo ineligible or remove him from office.

The least troublesome course is for the SC to find him ineligible before he fraudulently assumes office.


102 posted on 01/11/2009 12:25:44 PM PST by FreeManN
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To: airborne

I ordered an M1 Garand through the CMP. I had to send a certified and notarized copy of my ORIGINAL birth certificate.

I moved to a different state. I had to show a certified copy of my ORIGINAL birth certificate to get a new driver’s license.

I opened a business account at the bank I have used for all my accounts for decades. Among the documents requested was a certified copy of my ORIGINAL birth certificate.

The parent(s) of every child entering kindergarten in my county’s public school system must provide a certified copy of that child’s ORIGINAL birth certificate.

The parents of every child currently enrolled and attending any school in any other district who transfers into my county’s district must provide a certified copy of that child’s ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Any person seeking a marriage license in my county must provide a certified copy of their ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Want your kid to play Lamar Little League Baseball—that’d be the Lamar Little League, Member of Texas District 18, Richmond, Texas—then you’re going to have to produce a certified copy of the little slugger’s ORIGINAL birth certificate. (just google “little league baseball birth certificate”)

Want to be a substitute teacher in Merillville, IN? Then you have to provide a certified copy of your ORIGINAL birth certificate. ( just google “teachers licenese birth certificate”)

Any person applying for a passport must provide a certified copy of their ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Want to walk across the bridge from the US side to the Canadian side of Niagara Falls—it’s fun! Everyone should do it at least once! Then you’ll need an ORIGINAL or certified copy of your ORIGINAL birth certificate—or a valid US passport, for which you’ll need, you guessed it: a certified copy of your ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Ya know? It’d be a lot easier to just become president. (/sarc)


103 posted on 01/11/2009 12:26:31 PM PST by shoutingandpointing (Just say, "nn-nn-NO!" to Campbell's soup.)
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To: Cheddar Cat

No network will run the ad.


104 posted on 01/11/2009 12:31:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: conservativegramma
“Monday for the decision regarding what took place at the Conference on January 9th.”

SCOTUS is waiting for the results of the Phila NY game. Eagles win and the case move forward, Giants win and it is out.

105 posted on 01/11/2009 12:38:56 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: Drew68; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah

When Jim wants to turn this forum —a forum that he’s spent more than a decade building into a formidable internet voice for spreading conservatism, into Conspiracy Tin-Foil Republic, he’s welcome to zot my account.
***Is that how you see it, Jim? Why are you so silent on a constitutional issue that has gotten all the way to the SCOTUS and could dislodge a president elect? The fact that this issue has been forwarded 5 times is a sign of legitimacy, and Berg has been forwarded twice — another sign of legitimacy. You’ve got FReepers here who have been around almost as long as you (I signed up 2 months after you) and we are fighting to defend the constitution against trolls like Drew68. We take this Front page/First Sentence seriously
“Statement by FR’s Founder:
In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution”
and guys like Drew68 ADMIT to logging onto these threads just to be provocateurs.

What’s funny is I haven’t even had as much as a single post removed by the mods. Every last post I’ve written in regards to this conspiracy is still standing. Can you say the same? Didn’t think so.
***No, I cannot say the same. What you state is actually a very, very sad commentary on what is happening to conservatism and the defense of our constitution. Note that it’s the moderators who usually remove posts, not JimRob. One post in particular that should never have been removed was due to “naughty language” but it was two words that hint at alternate meanings, when I have seen much worse (actual words) continue to survive on FR. That’s what FR is coming to — long term freepers get articulate posts removed because of 2 hinted naughty words while trolls like Drew68 get free reign.


106 posted on 01/11/2009 12:39:01 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: nufsed

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/20/0.pdf


107 posted on 01/11/2009 12:41:21 PM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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To: SolidWood

I agree with you.

The 9th was Friday, granted Saturday and Sunday nothing would happen ... however

However nothing is being said. I wonder if the USSC will say or do anything. Surely they would not remain silent for an entire week till the 19th.

I too pray they step in and provide a sanity and Constitutional check. There actions in 2000 though don’t provide much help or guidance either. They don’t like politicss and political issues.


108 posted on 01/11/2009 12:42:33 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Red Steel
The lower courts have only stated that the complainants did not have standing or have said nothing. IMO, they have merit alright.

If the plaintiff doesn't have standing then how can their case have any merit?

109 posted on 01/11/2009 12:43:46 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: shoutingandpointing
And yet, when one of these threads come up, inevitably, there are scores of “tin foil alert” posts, attacking the mere thought of requesting 0bama meet the legal requirements in order to take office.

America - enjoy it while it lasts!

110 posted on 01/11/2009 12:44:32 PM PST by airborne (I know it's just my opinion, but I've worked hard on forming it.)
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To: Kevmo

Adding him. It is saddening that so many on this thread, while saying they abhor 0bama, express total defeat and hopelessness, and even scorn those who don’t accept total pre-emptive defeat with them. Reminds me of Denethor in the LOTR - he succumbed to the inevitability of the evil Sauron’s victory due to hopelessness and fear, and sneered st those willing to fight. And even hampered their efforts.


111 posted on 01/11/2009 12:46:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: shoutingandpointing
Ya know? It’d be a lot easier to just become president. (/sarc)

Incredible, isn't it?

(Thanks for posting this.)

I think all those examples you listed concern civic activities. The lack of requirement of an original, certified and notarized birth certificate seems to come up only when the activity is political in nature (e.g. voting rights / voter ID cases, and of course the BO POTUS birth certificate cases currently under discussion).

112 posted on 01/11/2009 12:53:59 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Red Steel
They have done something. If these cases were an "API fantasy" why put the cases on the docket? They didn't even have to move the cases to conference.

Yes they do. Every eligible case submitted to the Supreme Court has to be reviewed by the justices. All 8000-plus per year. Sometimes the justice for the district where it was filed will deny it. But then the plaintiff can take it to the other justices individually. Scheduling it for conference settles the matter once and for all. Only through a vote in conference can a case be scheduled for a hearing before the whole court. If it doesn't make it out of conference then it's dead.

113 posted on 01/11/2009 12:57:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: spokeshave

I believe the results of the Friday conference will be released at 10:00 AM on Monday.


114 posted on 01/11/2009 12:59:48 PM PST by shotdog
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To: Non-Sequitur
If the plaintiff doesn't have standing then how can their case have any merit?

I think you have an idea but you like being the provocateur.

But here it is anyway.

Meritorious law - A case taken by the court on legal arguments by citing statutes and authority, and if where the defendant wins the case based on their argument against the claim, then the case may be considered meritless.

Standing - the plaintiff has to show damage or being an injured party for the court to take action, to hear the merits of the case.

115 posted on 01/11/2009 1:00:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kevmo; DE88; little
I think that’s enough evidence to put you on the CoLB troll List. I’d welcome you to FR, but you’re just a troll.

Welcome to the troll list. We're thinking of having tee shirts made.

116 posted on 01/11/2009 1:00:36 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Kenny Bunk
on his Illinois Bar Registration, he claims to have never been known by another name. This is very weird.

Indeed it is weird and there are so many other things as well. He admitted as did mo that he was adopted. We know for a fact that he was name Barry Soetoro(sp?) when he attended school in Indonesia. Why did he lie and say he had never gone by any other names? I think because he didn't want them to know because then they might go nosing around and find something and back then he hadn't had time nor the inclination to hide and scrub things clean. I didn't vote for Clinton, did I think he and Hill are shady? Hell yes. They are a pay to play team. But I never for one minute doubted who they were. There past was well documented. Clinton didn't attend school in Indonesia and have a different name and list his religion as Muslim, Zer0 has never really addressed the name change issue. He sticks his fat nose in the air and dismisses the questions. I also believe he traveled on an Indonesian passport under the name BS. If he released his bc in Hawaii, all passports, and ALL medical records and let the hospital where he was born verify that he was born there, I would be satisfied that he was legit. As far as being a dual citizen at birth, I feel he isn't eligible, however that would be up to the courts to decide how they want to interpret the Constitution.

117 posted on 01/11/2009 1:01:29 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: DE88; Kevmo; All

>>>To me it is more of an amusement how people can be played by Berg on their hopes. Ring a bell?<<<

Star Traveller, NS, and now this brand new joker all express great merriment and amusement. The upcoming inauguration of an evil, lying, criminal thug who most likely is not even constitutionally eligible to be president fills them with scornful glee. What kind of person has this reaction?

When people reply to DE88, they could copy his revealing little piece of scat above.


118 posted on 01/11/2009 1:03:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Kevmo; Jim Robinson
"Is that how you see it, Jim? Why are you so silent on a constitutional issue that has gotten all the way to the SCOTUS and could dislodge a president elect?"

You're not the only one wondering about that. I've stopped listening to Rush, Hannity and Levin over this issue. Glad to see that at least Jim hasn't shut down discussion of this issue.

119 posted on 01/11/2009 1:06:15 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Red Steel
Meritorious law - A case taken by the court on legal arguments by citing statutes and authority, and if where the defendant wins the case based on their argument against the claim, then the case may be considered meritless.

So how's it going getting a court to take the case based on it's 'merit'?

120 posted on 01/11/2009 1:08:13 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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