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Posted on 01/16/2009 11:01:45 AM PST by dbz77

Does anyone know why LewRockwell.Com articles can no longer be posted here?


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KEYWORDS: antiisrael; antiwarright; conspiracy; lewrockwell; lewrockwellcom; lewserland; lewsers; tinfoil
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1 posted on 01/16/2009 11:01:45 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

It is a good question.

I would like to know the answer.


2 posted on 01/16/2009 11:04:17 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: dbz77

I think they got too tired of the kookiness and tinfoil hattery emanating from that site.


4 posted on 01/16/2009 11:05:43 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: dbz77

5 posted on 01/16/2009 11:08:03 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: dbz77

Lew Rockwell has not been welcome on FreeRepublic for a long time. Anti war or conspiracy propaganda like antiwar.com, Alex Jones, Prisionplanet.com are not the type of sites we want representing us. If you want to read about black helicopters, chemtrails, trilateral conspiracies, then Google is your friend.


6 posted on 01/16/2009 11:12:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: dbz77
So I don't have to post the following all the time.

"FLAME ON !"
You forgot the Barf Alert and Lew Rockwell warnings.

"FLAME OFF !"

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

7 posted on 01/16/2009 11:13:37 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: dbz77

Because they are Lewsers.


8 posted on 01/16/2009 11:14:46 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: dbz77

LR articles haven’t been allowed here for many years. My guess: nearly everyone over there is virulently anti-Israel, and has been harshly critical of the U.S. fighting the WOT (in Iraq in particular) since the early days of the war.


9 posted on 01/16/2009 11:19:18 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: dbz77

Does anyone know why LewRockwell.Com articles can no longer be posted here?


Were they allowed to be posted here on 11.05.08 when you signed up?


10 posted on 01/16/2009 11:26:17 AM PST by deport
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To: dbz77

Because Lew Rockwell is so far out in right field that he bumped into Cindy Sheehan coming around from the left. And got it on.


11 posted on 01/16/2009 11:26:29 AM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: LexBaird

I don’t believe that rumor.


12 posted on 01/16/2009 11:27:47 AM PST by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline please contact the admin moderator.)
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To: dbz77

1) The tapdancing on the 9/11 graves by many of the people who write for that site was appalling and sickening

2) The culture of 9/11 trutherism on that site has only gotten worse in succeeding years

3) And after Lew became Cindy Sheehan’s boyfriend, the political point of view shifted into far-left mode.

That’s three right off the bat.


13 posted on 01/16/2009 11:30:35 AM PST by denydenydeny (People in dictatorships long for truth while pampered, decadent people in the West long for myth.)
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To: denydenydeny

Why would LR and CS hook up? Other than the war, they would be on the opposite side of every other issue. It’s just seems too convenient a way to denigrate two people that are disliked.


14 posted on 01/16/2009 11:33:10 AM PST by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline please contact the admin moderator.)
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To: GSWarrior

Both are anti-war, both are anti-Israel, both believe in Government conspiracies like secret concentration camps, both have called our troops murderers, both believe President Bush was somehow involved in 9/11. I think it would be a shorter list what they disagree on.


15 posted on 01/16/2009 11:36:35 AM PST by mnehring
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To: GSWarrior

Opposites attract.


16 posted on 01/16/2009 11:37:35 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: denydenydeny
3) And after Lew became Cindy Sheehan’s boyfriend, the political point of view shifted into far-left mode.

Isn't this closer to the truth than you realize, didn't Rockorwellian marry some Huffington post type leftie?

He is also the person who is supposedly the ghost writer for all of Ron Paul's racist and conspiratorial comments in his newsletters. Basically, the excuse is, if it is a bad comment, Llewellyn wrote it, if it is a good comment, Paul takes credit.

17 posted on 01/16/2009 11:40:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: deport

Good catch. But in the poster’s defense, I was a lurker here for a long time before I signed up this past May. And I can remember seeing articles posted from a Lew Rockwell source being deleted back in 2005 or earlier. There was probably a time when FR didn’t even block certain URLs, but rather deleted the article after it was posted. Now, as you know, certain URLs are banned.


18 posted on 01/16/2009 11:40:32 AM PST by library user (Rod Blagojevich should have been TIME MAGAZINE'S "Person of the Year.")
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To: GSWarrior

Hey, I read it on FreeRepublic, so it must be true. Anyway, he likes her enough to post anti-war agitprop columns by her on his site.


19 posted on 01/16/2009 11:40:45 AM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: denydenydeny

LOL, remember this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681280/posts


20 posted on 01/16/2009 11:42:11 AM PST by mnehring
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To: LexBaird

He also is a writer for the Huffington Post.


21 posted on 01/16/2009 11:42:47 AM PST by mnehring
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To: dbz77
Two Words:

Alex Jones

22 posted on 01/16/2009 11:48:28 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Admin Moderator
Lew Rockwell has not been welcome on FreeRepublic for a long time. Anti war or conspiracy propaganda like antiwar.com, Alex Jones, Prisionplanet.com are not the type of sites we want representing us. If you want to read about black helicopters, chemtrails, trilateral conspiracies, then Google is your friend.

At the risk of being banned for not showing sufficient obsequious deference, that looks to the rest of the world like arbitrary censorship and intellectual cowardice. If you can think of a more accurate term, I'd appreciate hearing it.

A forum supposedly representing the pure strength of freedom of thought and the value of exposing falsehood really shouldn't have anything to fear from the occasional screw-ball post. It and its poster will be derided to death anyway. And frankly, it makes a humorous contrasting background to the overwhelmingly excellent quality of the other posts on FR.

Allowing flaky free speech in a forum called "Free Republic" hardly means "we" (in fact, Jim Robinson, because "we" have no say in what is or is not allowed here) endorses it or its source. It just shows certainty in the unalienable value of free speech and confidence in truth being triumphant. Frankly, I think a dismissive response (or flurry of them) is far more damning than a story spike or black out.

After all, a screw-ball conspiracy theory about Clinton having an on-going sexual tryst with an intern turned out to be true. Nobody is sufficiently pre-cognitive to determine beforehand what "crackpot" theories will turn out to be true, and thereby proactively filter so that only valuable content gets through.

I don't expect this to change your mind, but in the interest of intellectual honesty, I feel compelled to supply a counterpoint, because nobody else would dare.

If I disappear, it's because I've been banned for expressing this view.

23 posted on 01/16/2009 11:48:55 AM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Starfleet Command

Welcome to FR
FR is privately owned.
You and I are here as guests.
There is no ‘right’ to be here, hence banning or blocking sites is not censorship.
It would be similar to telling punks to get off your lawn while they blare their crap music.
The punks wouldn’t be getting censored as they have no ‘right’ to be there.


24 posted on 01/16/2009 11:53:03 AM PST by Darksheare (Hi, I'm D-sheare, and I am proud to inform you of your Impending Typos!)
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To: dbz77

Is Lew still dating Cindy Sheehan?


25 posted on 01/16/2009 11:53:17 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Starfleet Command
If I disappear, it's because I've been banned for expressing this view.

Will you get 72 virgins for martyring yourself here?
26 posted on 01/16/2009 11:55:30 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: Starfleet Command

It is for the exact same reason why we don’t allow anything from racist sites like Stormfront, conspiratorial propaganda like Alex Jones, radical liberal sites like Huffington Post (where Lew Rockwell writes), pornography, violence, etc. This is a private site, by and for Conservatives. This is about a FREE REPUBLIC. In a Free Republic, private property rights are honored, including the desire of this site to remain a Conservative forum versus a soapbox for every crank in the world.

The First Amendment says the government cannot restrict free speech, it does not give anyone the right to come on your or my private property and yell whatever they want to. It is a restriction on government, not a restriction on the standards you set for your property.

If you look at the posts here, it is pretty clear what the community thinks of Lew Rockwell.

By the way, people aren’t banned for just expressing their view, it is how they express that generally gets people banned or if their view is, for example, racist propaganda.


27 posted on 01/16/2009 11:56:58 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Darksheare
FR is privately owned. You and I are here as guests.

Hi Darksheare,

Thank you very kindly, and I understand that precisely. That is why I chose my words very carefully:

that looks to the rest of the world like arbitrary censorship and intellectual cowardice.

I mentioned nothing about "my rights" or anything remotely related to the concept. I was talking specifically about the perception of FR both internally and externally, and specifically about the value of being less restrictive in content. Or how about this - having a "Moderator Disavows This Article or Author" flag for the tin foil hat or leftie stuff. These are just my thoughts, and Jim Robinson will do whatever he feels like doing, and it won't make any difference to me one way or another. My goal is simply to get important, valuable information to as many people as possible, and I consider FR a fantastic resource as it is, but submitted my opinion to make it even better (admittedly, my subjective opinion).

I'm being quite genuine about this.

28 posted on 01/16/2009 12:02:30 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: ZX12R
If I disappear, it's because I've been banned for expressing this view.

Will you get 72 virgins for martyring yourself here?

Boy, I sure hope not. Besides, I think committing suicide online doesn't get you any points unless you take some digital infidels with you. I'd have to get some of you folks banned along with me in order to earn so much as a goldfish in the Islamic Online Afterlife...

Even if I've avoided being banned, I am probably now under a fatwah. Thanks a lot, ZX12R :-)

29 posted on 01/16/2009 12:07:12 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Starfleet Command
that looks to the rest of the world like arbitrary censorship and intellectual cowardice.

That is your opinion, we do not exist for appearances, we exist for Conservative values. If you exist for appearances, you are nothing but pop-culture. All forums have topics and themes. We are a Conservative site for Conservatives. Democrat Underground is a liberal site for liberals. Architectural Digest is an Architectual site for architects and designers. EGullet is a food related website for foodies and chefs. We offer a service to a specific clientele- Conservatives. You don't go to The Tavern on the Green and say they are censoring food because they don't serve McDonald's hamburgers.

30 posted on 01/16/2009 12:08:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Starfleet Command
"Jim Robinson will do whatever he feels like doing...

Damn right I will.

And here's what I feel like doing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

Sorry, Lew Rockwell, antiwar.com, Alex Jones, and their allies Code Pink, InternationalANSWER, et al, do not fill the bill (unless your bill includes offering aid and comfort to the enemy that is).

31 posted on 01/16/2009 12:15:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Starfleet Command; Darksheare; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
I was talking specifically about the perception of FR both internally and externally, and specifically about the value of being less restrictive in content.

So what?

This is a PRIVATE forum, certainly a libertarian (I assume) like yourself should understand that First Amendment rights have NOTHING to do with private property.

My goal is simply to get important, valuable information to as many people as possible,

There are other places to post.

32 posted on 01/16/2009 12:15:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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If you look at the posts here, it is pretty clear what the community thinks of Lew Rockwell.

By the way, people aren’t banned for just expressing their view, it is how they express that generally gets people banned or if their view is, for example, racist propaganda.

OK, well that's good to know. You'll note the details of my previous responses. I have no illusions about FR being some sort of "public property", and I completely endorse the concept of it as digital real estate. I simply disagree with the exclusion of all content from some sites (Lewrockwell and one I encountered personally, newswithviews.com), for the reasons I stated previously. I have to admit, I have only read a few Lew Rockwell articles (same with newswithviews, usually forwarded to me sporadically), and they have been by other authors, and I found them to be excellent. But that is only personal anecdotal evidence. It may be I found the 1% of worthwhile content in a mound of rubbish. As for racist propaganda, I totally agree and understand, as I have seen many, many online online forums invaded and destroyed by the Aryan Whatevers.

So, there, end of advice and observation. Back to mining valuable information and making fun of collectivists...

33 posted on 01/16/2009 12:19:41 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Jim Robinson
"Jim Robinson will do whatever he feels like doing...

Damn right I will.

And here's what I feel like doing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

Sorry, Lew Rockwell, antiwar.com, Alex Jones, and their allies Code Pink, International ANSWER, et al, do not fill the bill (unless your bill includes offering aid and comfort to the enemy that is).

I don't disagree with a single sentiment defined there.

Nor would I spare so much as a drop of urine to extinguish any member of the groups you list were they to be found in mid-combustion (although I must admit the entire Lew Rockwell revelation today is a shock - I really had no idea).

I respect your reasoning, and I trust my good-will critique, expressed precisely, is taken in the spirit it was intended: An admittedly subjective idea for quality improvement from a guy on your side.

Of course, the best thing about advice, especially unsolicited advice, is that it can be ignored.

34 posted on 01/16/2009 12:39:56 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: GSWarrior
Why would LR and CS hook up? Other than the war, they would be on the opposite side of every other issue.

Because they have a lot in common. Both are total Moonbats.

35 posted on 01/16/2009 12:44:20 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Starfleet Command
Thanks a lot, ZX12R :-)

You're very welcome. Just trying to get you off to a good start here at FR.

Look for threads like this one to participate in:

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36 posted on 01/16/2009 12:52:05 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Starfleet Command

Who cares what the rest of the world thinks?
When the rest of the world cares what we think, then I will give that statement consideration.

I mentioned rights because only governments censor, and rights are in place in counter to that.
Again, the perceptions of the rest of the world be damned.

Counter point is that such sites are disallowed due to the perceptions of the world being that if you allow such sites, then you are affiliated and or openly support such nonsense.


37 posted on 01/16/2009 1:09:12 PM PST by Darksheare (Hi, I'm D-sheare, and I am proud to inform you of your Impending Typos!)
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To: Brett66
LewRockwell.Com has articles from sympathizers of the Confederate States of America.

I do notice that people who sympathize with the Confederacy often also sympathize with North Korea and Cuba.
38 posted on 01/16/2009 6:16:27 PM PST by dbz77
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To: deport
Were they allowed to be posted here on 11.05.08 when you signed up?
No.

They have some good articles on economics, but when I tried to post an article from there on this site, the site rejected LewRockwell.Com.
39 posted on 01/16/2009 6:18:45 PM PST by dbz77
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To: ZX12R

Beautiful :-)


40 posted on 01/16/2009 6:52:30 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: dbz77

Because they’re a bunch of drooling nutbags?


41 posted on 01/16/2009 6:54:53 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: dbz77
I was actually going to say a bunch of America-hating drooling nutbags, but that seemed redundant*.





* anti-Semitic drooling nutbags? Same problem...

42 posted on 01/16/2009 6:57:42 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Darksheare
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks? When the rest of the world cares what we think, then I will give that statement consideration.

Yes, well, you'll forgive me for using your same metric in your case.

I mentioned rights because only governments censor, and rights are in place in counter to that.

That, of course, is BS. The MSM spikes, censors, and blacks out *lots* of data with no government encouragement or authority whatsoever, so your point is invalid, and your assertion is incorrect.

Counter point is that such sites are disallowed due to the perceptions of the world being that if you allow such sites, then you are affiliated and or openly support such nonsense.

You know, Jim made his own point from a far stronger philosophical basis: Private property, and subjective judgment being absolute over that property. Let him fight his own battles, he's better at them than you are.

43 posted on 01/16/2009 6:58:43 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Starfleet Command
If you can think of a more accurate term, I'd appreciate hearing it.

The more accurate term that leaps to my mind is none of your damned business newbie troll.

You have an inalienable right to free speech, but a completely alienable right to free speech here.

44 posted on 01/16/2009 7:00:29 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
If you can think of a more accurate term, I'd appreciate hearing it. The more accurate term that leaps to my mind is none of your damned business newbie troll.

Quit sucking up, and read for *content*, coward. I've made my point to Jim directly, and to everyone else publicly. I'll stand by it, and his judgment of me and my point.

Call names if you're ready to match wits and intellectual capability. Otherwise, shut up, and learn.

I am no troll. My time is too valuable, and my life too precious to be wasted on anything less than human advancement. But I choose my peers harshly. I bow before none but God, and respect from me is *earned*. Try to aspire to more grandeur than a court parrot.

45 posted on 01/16/2009 7:11:13 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Starfleet Command
If you want a source for LewRockwell content, here's a thought: try LewRockwell.com.

I am no troll.


46 posted on 01/16/2009 7:21:04 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
If you want a source for LewRockwell content, here's a thought: try LewRockwell.com.

Your intellectual bravery, ability to think along the most simple of abstract lines, and grasp of scope and intent is simply too much for me, you big smart thing, you. Thanks. BTW, if you ever need a hand with anything, *I'm busy*.

47 posted on 01/16/2009 7:27:42 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Starfleet Command

As for your respect, newbie troll, I flush more important matter than that every morning upon rising.

Bran keeps things moving.


48 posted on 01/16/2009 7:29:40 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Starfleet Command
...you big smart thing, you. Thanks. BTW, if you ever need a hand with anything, *I'm busy*.

That's okay, guy. I'm happily married. I don't think I'm your type.

49 posted on 01/16/2009 7:30:56 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Admin Moderator
"If you want to read about black helicopters, chemtrails, trilateral conspiracies, then Google is your friend."

You forgot David Icke and the Reptilians. LOL

50 posted on 01/16/2009 9:33:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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