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FR Gun Club: Stupid Gun Mistakes EVERY Writer Makes
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Posted on 01/22/2009 8:28:18 AM PST by Petruchio

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To: smokingfrog
My pet peeve - when some “good guy” armed only with a revolver or pistol is fighting off a group of “bad guys” armed with automatic rifles. He manages to kill one or more of them but never bothers to pick up the dead guys rifle to even-up the odds.

There was a great little scene in SAHARA, where Al Giordino comes to the area where he has just dropped a few bad guys, scans around, sees laying on the ground an M-16, a couple of AK's, and an FAL.

Picks up the FAL.

I loved it...

61 posted on 01/22/2009 10:02:03 AM PST by BlueDragon (the beatings will continue until morale improves!)
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To: BlueDragon

I’m gonna have to rent that movie. I’m a sucker for the CC books, but haven’t seen that movie.


62 posted on 01/22/2009 10:10:27 AM PST by smokingfrog (Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public.)
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To: Petruchio

My favorites:
1. Auto firing weapons where the user fires horizontally chasing his target high to low, never allowing for barrel climb.
2. Hostage situations where the perp sticks his head out from behind his hostage to talk directly to the cops. Probably more of a Hollywood thing so the actor gets max face time on camera. But in in real life just asking to be on the receiving end of a well placed head shot, especially given the close proximity between antagonists. And, again, perhaps Hollywood license to fit everyone into the scene. Perhaps the most realistic scene I’ve seen lately was on NCIS where Gibbs is given the “go ahead” by Lee to shoot through her to take out the perp...very original.


63 posted on 01/22/2009 10:13:31 AM PST by vigilence
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To: TalonDJ

That, and 105 lb actresses dual wielding .50AE Desert Eagles. First shots would snap their wrists like dry twigs.

And also the ever favorite flying body from being hit by a 9mm or even .45...


64 posted on 01/22/2009 10:16:19 AM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: vigilence

Gibbs is the man. Watch the first NCIS episode where a terrorist fires an MP-5 at him on Air Force 1. Great scene.


65 posted on 01/22/2009 10:21:03 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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To: Uncle Ike
The most cliche’d firearm abuse in movies and tv — the 20-shot revolver -

In the horse operas of the Signing Cowboys, Hopalong Cassidy and the Lone Ranger, the 20 shot revolver would automatically empty after two shots when the bad guys were making their escape from the gunfight on horseback.

They would then throw the empty revolver at the pursuing white hat/horse and later be overtaken and knocked off their horse into the inevitable fist fight.

Following the obligatory fisticuffs, said bad guy(s), after being beaten into submission and promising to go quietly, would grab the hero's spare weapon and either be (A)shot in the gut, with 30 second death scene, by late-arriving sidekick or (B)late-arriving sidekick would shot gun out of bad guy's hand and be greeted by hero with a hearty "Thanks Podnah."

66 posted on 01/22/2009 10:22:14 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: Army Air Corps

That was the Nagan.


67 posted on 01/22/2009 10:22:44 AM PST by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: P8riot

“Lamar, I got a dollar says I can break your neck before you move that rig a half inch.”


68 posted on 01/22/2009 10:23:32 AM PST by xone
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To: Ramius
Especially if you've ever fired a gun *indoors* in a small space or worse yet-- in a car. It is insanely loud.

My favorite episode of Barney Miller is the one where Wojohowitz arrests a guy who tried to rob a bank with a bazooka and asks the slightly deaf crook why he can't hear:

Crook: You ever shoot one of those thing?
Wojo: Well... Yea.
Crook: Oh yea? Where?
Wojo: Vietnam.
Crook: Oh sure! Outdoors.

69 posted on 01/22/2009 10:25:43 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Ransomed

“If you ever check out “Lost”, anytime anyone makes the slightest movement with a gun there is a dull metallic clicking sorta like the sound of a transformer changing shape.”


That happens with knives too, lots of metallic sounds especially involving going in or out of the scabbard, also all movie knives now make swooshing sounds in the air when they are waved around.


70 posted on 01/22/2009 10:30:15 AM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: piytar

I also ‘love’ people doing flips or cartwheels while getting shot it. Not rolls on the ground but big flashy flips in the air matrix style.
+1 for moving to avoid fire.
-500 for moving in a way that leaves your center of mass in roughly the same general area it was in before.


71 posted on 01/22/2009 10:32:14 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Petruchio

Lead bullets making a spark when hitting a head of lettuce.


72 posted on 01/22/2009 10:33:51 AM PST by Eaker (All bow to the baby killing, muslim Kenyan Klown.)
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To: Petruchio
My number one favorite moving gun thing is.....

If you can hide behind it then it is 100% bullet proof!

walls, couches, overturned wooden tables, KITCHEN CABINET DOORS, everything!

73 posted on 01/22/2009 10:35:24 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Petruchio
I almost forgot! If you are moving and getting shot at the bullets that miss you will ALL land near your feet. Especially if what you are running on is dirt and double especially if it is sand.
74 posted on 01/22/2009 10:36:52 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
How about when the author uses 'site' instead of 'sight' or 'sights' or 'sight picture'.

Maybe he's referring to the site where the intended target is standing. :=)

75 posted on 01/22/2009 10:37:16 AM PST by Bob
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To: xone
“Lamar, I got a dollar says I can break your neck before you move that rig a half inch.”

Saw that a couple nights ago, great movie. Although, Kidd does the one shot, 800 yard, freehand center of mass shot with a gun he never shot, pulled out of a box, put together (including scope) fiddles with the scope adjustments, and drills the guy. I give them credit for holding the crosshairs 10 feet over the guys head.

76 posted on 01/22/2009 10:37:57 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: smokingfrog
My pet peeve - when some “good guy” armed only with a revolver or pistol is fighting off a group of “bad guys” armed with automatic rifles. He manages to kill one or more of them but never bothers to pick up the dead guys rifle to even-up the odds. I've seen this on ‘24’ and in ‘Lethal Weapon.‘

years ago I made a list of 'rules to live by. Not doing this was 948. Either leaving behind a gun when you don't have one or else leaving a far superior one. Steven Segal was really bad about this, often leaving submachine guns laying around in favor of unarmed martial arts. It was a lot better in the die-hards where he is upgrading or 'reloading' by grabbing fallen foes guns all the time.
77 posted on 01/22/2009 10:44:15 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: domenad
Never aim for the head? Really? Is a center hit certain to cause a fatality? I know that’s true for swordplay, but for a bullet?

Trying to hit a smaller target usually isn't advisable, particulary in a gun fight. Also bullets can ricochet off the cranium. Better to shoot at something one has a greater probability of hitting and eliminating the threat.

78 posted on 01/22/2009 10:52:42 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (CPA, MBA needs a job - referrals welcome)
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To: Petruchio
The Never Ending Ammo - The ammo that never runs out on a gun. The gun fires with no limit.
79 posted on 01/22/2009 10:57:19 AM PST by bmwcyle (I have no President as of Jan 20th 2009. No Congress either.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

But the original point was made in the context of the stereotypical ice-water-veined assassin zeroing in on his completely unaware target.

In that instance, one could indeed imagine the assassin knowing the distance in advance and rezeroing his scope and choosing the headshot.


80 posted on 01/22/2009 10:59:54 AM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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