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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; intelligentdesign; notasciencetopic; oldearthspeculation; piltdownman; propellerbeanie; spammer; toe
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To: CE2949BB

Yes, I do remember Sara Palin being attacked for her religious beliefs...Matt Damon comes to mind.

Are you seriously asserting we should care about what hollyweirdos think of us?


221 posted on 01/28/2009 7:08:31 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: CFC__VRWC

I don’t deny that there are those who believe in the 6 day, 6,000 year old earth creation.

It’s the rest of the crap and you actually did post all the links to those comments you could find, because they don’t exist and everyone knows it.

But the *go look it up for yourself* nonsense is the very thing FRevos condemn with creationists respond in the same way.

Rules for thee but not for me.


222 posted on 01/28/2009 7:09:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CottShop
I spend time talking to the oak posts I have stored out back for firewood.

They are less dense. They burn clean.

Regards your excellent wit and debating skills, and even your brilliant analysis of topics which you demonstrate a remarkable skill in presenting in a cogent and well thought out easy to understand manner, I stand in awe.

Your posts themselves do great justice in dispelling any fears or doubts regards your beliefs, and well thought out, well reasoned, polished presentations of fact.

To say you have no basis or foundation for what you spew would in fact, be in error.

It is, in fact, ingrained in your psyche.

IF only were it so, you would have made someone, somewhere, very proud.

223 posted on 01/28/2009 7:09:33 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: mgstarr

More popcorn, please.


224 posted on 01/28/2009 7:09:44 PM PST by Canedawg (Lincoln freed the slaves, BO will free the terrorists. "Unity of purpose" my a- -, Mr.POS)
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To: DoctorMichael; wendy1946; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Do we really need to put up with garbage pictures like this?


225 posted on 01/28/2009 7:10:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DoctorMichael

Bad mojo. Don’t do that.


226 posted on 01/28/2009 7:13:13 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Coyoteman
You are still free to post, apparently.

How did Jim Robinson contradicting your statement about who should be allowed to post on your thread, discourage you from posting?

Just filter out or ignore those whom you find unworthy of responding to.

Those interested in your topic for its sake can still talk to one another.

Cheers!

227 posted on 01/28/2009 7:14:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Coyoteman; Jim Robinson

I have not read the entire thread yet, but I do not think that it is appropriate that coyoteman should be banned based on what I have read so far.


228 posted on 01/28/2009 7:15:53 PM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I shouda read that post first, before I posted.

It is pretty clear.

229 posted on 01/28/2009 7:18:31 PM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: Ron Jeremy; editor-surveyor; RadioAstronomer; doc30; Wonder Warthog; Right Wing Professor
You have been around long enough to remember "physicist", who was not a creationist. Or, do you deny that he was a scientist?

Or RadioAstronomer, or doc30, or Wonder_Warthog.

Or RightWingProfessor...

Cheers!

230 posted on 01/28/2009 7:18:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING !

No more calls, please.

We have a winner!

Cheers!

231 posted on 01/28/2009 7:19:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Canedawg

I’ve had my fill.

Sometimes I wonder about those who used to argue that the earth was flat...


232 posted on 01/28/2009 7:19:49 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: RegulatorCountry
It will not be God who is shown to be the source of discord, though.

And on that, we agree. God is not the source of the discord. Those who presume to speak for Him, however, are another story.

233 posted on 01/28/2009 7:19:54 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: going hot

Scared of addressing htose facts I present I see! That’s alright- just keep attackign hte messenger- seems to be all you ‘scientists’ and ‘real science supporters’ are capable of- We’re used to petty avoidance tactics by you folk- You unwillingness to engage in those htreads is quite telling- but that’s alright- you just continue pretending you are hte only one serious about hte actual science while sitting mute until you find opportunity to belittle and malign- Swell tactic- Swell defense of Macroevolution. “Nuh Uh- What you say isn’t true” isn’t a very convincing coutner-arguement- but do continue to pretend as though it were- Have a nice day


234 posted on 01/28/2009 7:20:00 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: going hot

Scared of addressing htose facts I present I see! That’s alright- just keep attackign hte messenger- seems to be all you ‘scientists’ and ‘real science supporters’ are capable of- We’re used to petty avoidance tactics by you folk- You unwillingness to engage in those htreads is quite telling- but that’s alright- you just continue pretending you are hte only one serious about hte actual science while sitting mute until you find opportunity to belittle and malign- Swell tactic- Swell defense of Macroevolution. “Nuh Uh- What you say isn’t true” isn’t a very convincing coutner-arguement- but do continue to pretend as though it were- Have a nice day


235 posted on 01/28/2009 7:20:42 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Gumlegs
I merely point out that religious believe and the Theory of Evolution are not mutually exclusive.

...and grammar check is your *friend*.

/glass-house-stone-throwing mode>

236 posted on 01/28/2009 7:22:28 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: tpanther
I don't give a rat's ass about Matt Damon or anyone else from Hollywood.

The question he asked - is Sarah Palin a Creationist? - is valid. That was never settled.

You're attempting to frame this in a "cultural war" context, which simply isn't valid.

This is about science. Politics has little, if anything, to do with it.

Much like climate change, people are mixing different worlds.

There is the issue of the science and then there is the issue of the politics. These are two separate worlds.

Accepting the reality of the science doesn't mean you're rejecting God (in the case of evolution) or that you want to dictate what kind of car a person drives (in the case of climate change).

237 posted on 01/28/2009 7:22:51 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: grey_whiskers
...and grammar check is your *friend*.

Its knot mai knight.

238 posted on 01/28/2009 7:23:30 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Radix

[[I have not read the entire thread yet, but I do not think that it is appropriate that coyoteman should be banned based on what I have read so far]]

He wasn’t banned solely on that- He’s been askign for a ban for a very long time now so he could then play hte martye over on DC- He got his wish- Everyone knew it was coming- it is no surprise to anyone except htose hwo are feigning shock and disbeleif (not implying you- but several on htis htread have done so)


239 posted on 01/28/2009 7:24:14 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: tacticalogic
No mistake. You’re the one who came to me.

I didn’t come looking for you. You were out FReeping on the thread, so I pinged you. That’s how it’s done hundreds of times a day. Don’t pretend it’s anything special. People are watching.

240 posted on 01/28/2009 7:26:06 PM PST by YHAOS
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