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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ping


4,021 posted on 03/07/2009 9:34:10 AM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: djf

Can potatoe seed be bought at any nursery or is there a certain supplier that you like?


4,022 posted on 03/07/2009 10:24:16 AM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: djf

Making a note of it.


4,023 posted on 03/07/2009 10:31:46 AM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: upcountry miss
Despite warm milk, chicken livers, steak from the moose we processed, mackeral fresh caught, hot dogs and all manner of cat food, they remain very nervous, coming when you call...

Those are some lucky cats!
4,024 posted on 03/07/2009 10:49:52 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere
OK, I’m sorry but just before I turn into a pumpkin here (almost midnight)... I get a bit silly...

Ummmmm put them on the shelf in the pantry...


LOL! Okay, got it....
4,025 posted on 03/07/2009 10:50:28 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere

Hi - GG - thanks for the wheat primer.

I do have 2 questions:
1) if I only have a hard wheat and a soft wheat, which one would you make pasta out of?
2) do bay leaves need to be freshly dried to work (ie., I have some old ones that no longer have a fragrance). I assume I’ll have to toss ‘em, but I hate to throw things away without checking first...

thx,
CB


4,026 posted on 03/07/2009 10:53:46 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere
Just that the engineer in me can’t resist doing the basic calculations..

Now I know why I wanted to be adopted by you! I am one myself and am never happier than when doing some sort of complex calculations. BS Metallurical Engineering eons ago, but always worked as a mechanical engineer doing various types of avoinics software.

I wasn't going to mention it here, because it sounds looney. But...one thing I've really enjoyed about preparedness is making excel spreadsheets with my supplies and having it email me when something is near the expiration date or if I add an item but have another that would need to be rotated out then. Just for fun, ya know ;)
4,027 posted on 03/07/2009 10:57:06 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Potato/Salmon Au Gratin

yummm....have to try that one!
4,028 posted on 03/07/2009 10:58:18 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Great information!


4,029 posted on 03/07/2009 11:32:34 AM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: buckeye49

If you keep the water chlorinated, it won’t get funky. (years ago had a swimming pool) In fact for not too much money you can get a kit that tells you when your chlorine is low....(sorry if you already knew that) :O)


4,030 posted on 03/07/2009 11:47:21 AM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

Well, I’m way past worrying if it is funky. Haven’t used it for swimming for about 5 years. The funk just sinks to the bottom!! It also occurred to me a while back that if I were to have a fire here, it would be useful for that, too, so I’m just going to let it sit.

I’m enjoying reading all the great info here, aren’t you? I’m learning a lot, and getting a lot of good ideas.


4,031 posted on 03/07/2009 2:31:31 PM PST by buckeye49
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To: All

Vancouver City Hall beats White House to the green punch

Plot set aside for community garden

Barack Obama’s got nothing on Gregor Robertson when it comes to having green
cred with the local food movement.
Organic food activists in the United States have been urging the new
president to install a community garden at the White House.

A few days ago, Vancouver’s new mayor announced that a portion of the city
hall lawn, just north of the main city hall building, will be converted into
a community garden for people to grow food.

“Vancouver has really beat Obama on this one,” said Mike Levenston,
executive director of the City Farmer Society.

The idea of bringing agriculture to 12th and Cambie comes from Robertson’s
Greenest City Action Team, which has been charged with making Vancouver the
greenest city in the world.


Vancouver City Council votes to allow chickens in yards

From Barn Yard to Backyard

ByLaws: Urban hens have a patch of of grass to call home again after Vancouver City
Council votes to allow animals in yards
It’s no yolk as city welcomes chickens home.

Two of three feathered friends sent off to a Langley farm will come back to roost
in Kitsilano backyard
Now living in exile in Langley, the two birds will soon be legally allowed back
in their coop in Chauvel’s Kitsilano backyard after Vancouver city council voted
unanimously Thursday to change city bylaws to legalize the keeping of urban hens.

“I think they’re probably dying to come home,” Chauvel said.


Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack “The Peoples Garden” At USDA

This garden will add 612 square feet of planted space to an existing garden traditionally
planted to ornamentals, bringing the total size to more than 2,500 square feet.

“The People’s Garden” represents forward-thinking ideas and actions.

· We’ll grow a large assortment of fruits and vegetables, symbolizing USDA’s commitment
to promote healthful diets and fight childhood obesity.

· We’ll demonstrate for landowners the kind of conservation practices our farmers
use each and every day.
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Complete stories here on our web stories:
City Farmer News [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102494085922&e=001t_SWwq2p15vxRn8ps8HYUFPZwZr9aOomr7c0qXGycpBgjSc1LJO_RdE9TID7DVE1nvSdAjShQPjSTVgFKpx864YdodoCclmzNcYdMF1JvaNbs89QYtKGFw==]
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Michael Levenston
City Farmer - Canada’s Office of Urban Agriculture


4,032 posted on 03/07/2009 3:08:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Early last night, I posted a link for Mountain Rose herbs, might have sent it to you, they might have it.

There has always been an interest in the Thieves Vinegar, in 2001 an Essential Oil group was working it out in the oils and several other groups over the years have made it.

I see no harm in it, and history says it worked.

I always understood that the thieves wrapped cloths soaked in it over their faces for a face mask, so they did not breathe the germs, but those links said they take it, as a medicine.


4,033 posted on 03/07/2009 3:21:19 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Potato/Salmon Au Gratin

yummm....have to try that one!<<<

It caught my eye as I posted it.

Several of those would taste good, right now.


4,034 posted on 03/07/2009 3:22:45 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: diamond6

Great information!<<<

Thank you, welcome to the thread, we are glad you are here.

Join in, questions or answers are always welcome.


4,035 posted on 03/07/2009 3:27:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: buckeye49

Welcome to the thread, I am happy you are finding information you can use.

Do join in and post or ask questions, if you care to.

If one had an old swimming pool and a garden, why not use the water in it for the garden on a daily basis and you would not need to use the chlorine in it.

Water is the first thing we will loose.

Our local Police scanner, early this morning said the electric was off in several areas and soon the tanks would be dry at the water company, plus there was a major leak in the water line for the same area.

How easy it is to want a backup water supply.


4,036 posted on 03/07/2009 3:32:44 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

>>>BS Metallurical Engineering eons ago, but always worked as a mechanical engineer doing various types of avoinics software.<<<

Well, with my never ending interests in all things... There was only one field that came close to capturing it for me...
Agricultural Engineer.. Civil/Structural/Electrical/Mechanical all rolled into one... See, Jack of all trades - Master of none...

LOL In College, a spreadsheet was hand written and calculations were on our trusty slide-rule... First calculator I ever saw/used was a Marshant (sp) All mechanical - gears, sprockets and numbered wheels - the carriage did a ka-bump and jumped over as it changed places on the calculations. It used to hang quite often, and even the manual said the fix was to lift it about 10-12 inches above the desk and drop it.

>>Avionics<< LOL Again.. When I took flight training, it was a two sided Circular Slide-rule Like an E6B... compass, turn and bank indicator, and oooh, some of them had those fancy gyroscope thingys that you absolutely had to lock down (cage) before you practiced spins...(really messed them up if you didn’t)

OK, I am a little bit computer literate though...I started programming on an IBM 1401 (4k RAM) in Assembler Language. (self taught)..Yep, 80 column cards, keypunch - verifiers, sorters and collators... Used them all. (Hey, I remember IBM saying they had solved the data storage for decades into the future - a 96 column card that was even shorter than the 80 column ones... LOL) Much later taught Lotus 123,dBase3, Word Perfect and Basic Programming at local Jr. College and Adult Night School...

Hey, the spreadsheet inventory sounds neat! Ummmm, any possibility of sharing???

I have tinkered over the years with them to where I had a steady stream of big-whig financial people coming to see what I was doing... I took a Commodore Vic20 and a 300 baud modem and was copying radio teletype and then when the credit bureau wanted you to buy their teletype machines, I told them nope - just want the service no equipment... They said it couldn’t be done (wrong thing to tell me) so I got them to give me the info and login and I showed them...

I later wrote a basic program to massage their output and put it into a CSV file and imported it into Lotus 123 and built a credit modeling spreadsheet to do loan application evaluations for our credit committee. That one brought a ton more interested people... LOL So I have had some fun with them.

Seriously, I would like a copy if possible... Never thought of emailing expirations. Neat idea.


4,037 posted on 03/07/2009 3:32:50 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: CottonBall

>>if I only have a hard wheat and a soft wheat, which one would you make pasta out of?<<

Hard - higher protein & higher gluten.

>>>do bay leaves need to be freshly dried to work (ie., I have some old ones that no longer have a fragrance). I assume I’ll have to toss ‘em, but I hate to throw things away without checking first..<<<

The aromatic part is where the action is...

They are cheap... I bought a butter tub - about 1 pound size (but not 1 pound of bay leaves LOL) for $1.98 at our Amish bulk food store. That should last easily for a year and maybe more.


4,038 posted on 03/07/2009 3:46:10 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: All; MHGinTN; JDoutrider; LucyJo; toomanygrasshoppers; processing please hold; OB1kNOb; ...

We passed the 4,000 posts mark this morning, new people coming to read all the time, and we miss all of you being here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?q=1&;page=4036#4036

Always new information and new things to learn.

This is your friendly ping, that several have reminded me “that it is time to send a ping out”....LOL

All of you, “smile and be happy”.

granny


4,039 posted on 03/07/2009 3:50:35 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

Ace hardware knows when they see me coming that something unusual is in the works... LOL

The Manager usually greets me with ‘What are we building today?’ She seems to keep one eye out for me...

Ran in today to get a tank of LP gas - she wanted to know how the chicken plucker worked out that I was building... Told her I would let her know after I got the gas to heat the scalder to use it today... (Worked pretty well, think I will expand it thought. Make it a double so it does the job faster.)

I usually call them first to see if they have what I need and if not, order it online and pick it up with the free delivery.


4,040 posted on 03/07/2009 4:02:31 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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