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NEO-PAGANISM GRAVEST PROBLEM FOR NEW POPE (3/5/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 3/5/39 | Michael Williams, Edwin L. James

Posted on 03/05/2009 4:22:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: catholic; piusxii; realtime
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1 posted on 03/05/2009 4:22:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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From News of the Week in Review.

Neo-paganism - I did not know that was how the Church referred to the Fascists and Nazis. Interesting.

2 posted on 03/05/2009 4:25:02 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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This is particularly important now when Pius XII is being considered for beatification and in the face of horrible slanders and libels being perpetrated against him. From the start, he vigorously opposed Nazism and Fascism and only a perverted reading of the historical record can say otherwise.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 4:29:01 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for the One to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: NYer; Salvation

Might be worth a Catholic ping


4 posted on 03/05/2009 5:58:49 AM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Don’cha know the Nazis were all fundamentalist Christians. /s


5 posted on 03/05/2009 6:04:50 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I thought this was current news, what with global warming hysterics (i.e., Gaia worshippers) and Obama cultists.


6 posted on 03/05/2009 7:24:28 AM PST by ForeignDude
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So should today’s neo-pagans properly be called paleopagans? I mean, can you be still be neo after 70+ years?


7 posted on 03/05/2009 8:26:07 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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"This is particularly important now when Pius XII is being considered for beatification and in the face of horrible slanders and libels being perpetrated against him. From the start, he vigorously opposed Nazism and Fascism and only a perverted reading of the historical record can say otherwise."

Sorry, but that's simply not factually true. In fact the Vatican under both Piuses XI and XII signed concordats and made peace with fascists like Mussolini and Franco. So fascism itself was no particular problem for the Vatican.

In 1933 they expected the same from their Concordat with Hitler's Nazis. In exchange for Hitler's promise not to molest the Church, the Vatican agreed to disband Germany's opposition Catholic political party. Now, take a minute to consider just what that deal meant.

Of course, Hitler did not live up to his promises, and so the Vatican was sometimes forced to speak in opposition. But it NEVER took SERIOUS steps against Nazism, such as excommunicating Nazis, or even Hitler himself!

Indeed, even on his death by suicide, Hitler was given a Catholic mass.

So, yes, the Vatican did oppose Hitler's Nazism, but it was a weak and totally ineffective opposition, imho. By contrast, the Vatican displayed no such weaknesses in opposing Stalin's Communism.

8 posted on 03/05/2009 8:39:25 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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