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Family Wants Tougher Laws After Daughter Commits Suicide

Posted on 03/23/2009 12:19:57 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant

The Logan's daughter hung herself after she sent a naked photo of herself to her boyfriend. He passed it on to several students in several schools. "My only baby that I will never be able to touch again," Cynthia Logan said through tears. "I will never have grandchildren. I will never be able to hand down my heirlooms. I'm just devastated by these parents that allow their children to do and say anything they want."

"Schools need to understand our kids are targeting each other and how technology is being used as a weapon," Aftab said. "None of them (the schools) know what to do. Many of them ... think it's not their problem. They want to close their eyes and put fingers in their ears, saying it's a home issue."


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KEYWORDS: 2manylaws; adoption; cellphones; selfesteem; sexpositiveagenda; suicide; teensuicide
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Mommy found it to blame everyone for not helping her daughter. This is/was a tragedy. She is devastated by parents who allow their children do and say anything that they want. Was she speaking of herself. Who is the most responsible in the situation? Mom? Dad? The school? the police?. Both of my boys have iphones [with text messaging]. My wife and I read their text messages. And we will strip them of their priviledges at any time. My advise to parents of your kids [mine are 14 and 15] is do not give them text messaging until they are 16. They need a phone to call you with. But at the end of the day I cannot expect a school to do what I have failed to do. We tell parents things that we discover and the common response is ... "I don't want to know!"

Well you walk in the room and find your child swinging from the light fixture you will wish you did know. Quit trying to be your kids friend and be their parent. That need it, and quite honestly, they want that!

1 posted on 03/23/2009 12:19:58 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Maybe the girl was too sheltered. I can’t understand how any kid could feel so ashamed and embarrassed that they would commit suicide over it. Maybe this was the first time the kid ever was embarrassed about anything?

granted it was a pretty dumb thing she did. But not so dumb that she should end her life over it.


2 posted on 03/23/2009 12:23:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
Another law.

Yeah, that'll help.

3 posted on 03/23/2009 12:23:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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And we will strip them of their priviledges at any time.

But at the end of the day I cannot expect a school to do what I have failed to do.

Quit trying to be your kids friend and be their parent

Wise words that will save your eternal soul and hopefully theirs as well.

4 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Our son is 12 and will not have a cell until he is at least 16. I know where he is at all times and he doesn’t need a phone.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:09 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

I don’t want to come across as heartless, but something about this story stinks.

Remember the 13 yr old girl who committed suicide after a neighborhood women created a false account and led her on? Well, it wasn’t her first attempt.

People who commit suicide are usually deeply troubled souls so let’s not get carried away and, for crying out loud, no new laws.


6 posted on 03/23/2009 12:24:27 PM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

I hear how everyone just HAS to have a cellphone to get by these days (including kids, to stay in touch with parents).

How did this nation survive from 1890-1990 before cellphone use became so widespread?


7 posted on 03/23/2009 12:25:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesnÂ’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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This is, indeed, a tragedy, but why is she blaming the boy who passed around the picture HER DAUGHTER SENT in the first place? The responsible party is the daughter. There are countless teenage girls posting pornography of themselves on the internet—video taping themselves, taking pictures of themselves—it’s disgusting. And, while parents have an oversight responsibility, how about raising daughters who have enough respect for themselves to not be technology ‘ho’s’?

It doesn’t say how old the girl is, but my nearly 16 year old daughter wouldn’t dream of doing such a thing. She’s plugged into her school in extra-curricular activities and active in her church youth group. I taught high school, and I know this stuff goes on—regularly. (Primarily amongst the cheerleaders and dance team girls.) It’s a sorry reflection on the parents, and I’m sad to say that this tragedy is, too. But, if the girl hadn’t taken a nude picture of herself and then sent it to her boyfriend, none of this would have happened.


8 posted on 03/23/2009 12:26:29 PM PDT by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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For the most part, suicide is an irrational act. To try and formulate a rational reasons for someone’s act is fruitless.


9 posted on 03/23/2009 12:26:54 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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Stay that path. If he is going somewhere you can give him yours. We always felt that we wanted our boys to be able to contact us. One thing I will say is that no matter what they are doing or where they are going, they call and ask. There is no excuse for not. We had the benefit of saying we did not have the money or could not find a phone.

A phone is not bad. the camera and text is not needed

10 posted on 03/23/2009 12:27:22 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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"They want to close their eyes and put fingers in their ears, saying it's a home issue."

Allow me to say that if the girl was sending out naked pictures of herself, it sounds like a home issue.

11 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:10 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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Tougher laws begin at home. We were band parents and monitoried band camp and band trips and parented the kids whose real parents were too lazy. I monitored the phone calls and web sites and friends my kids hung with. Once I even read a diary.

They didn’t like it either.

Too freaking bad. I’m the MOM and some things are just because “I SAID SO.” Our house was not a democracy.

Today I have 2 grown successful, healthy, happy Conservative Christians leading productive lives...and 2 more in the wings.


12 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by mom4melody
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This girl was 18 ... "an adult"

It is like all the girls on the "Girls Gone Wild" tapes. Who took your shirt off?

13 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:40 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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We need less laws, not more laws. We need political leaders who promise to encourage the lawmaking bodies to review and remove a law a day! Let’s clean house!

As for who is responsible... In the end, we’re all responsible for our own actions. It’s a tough pill to swallow for some. Trust in God! That’s the only other way I know.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:46 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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People who commit suicide are usually deeply troubled souls so let’s not get carried away and, for crying out loud, no new laws.

We have existing laws against kids being sexually exploited and there are many freepers who don't want to see them applied to boys like these who circulated the photos (they consider it "harmless pranks" that teens do).

People who send such photos of themselves are ALSO usually deeply troubled souls. As is a girl who'd fall for some fake "boy" on myspace she never met (actually some jealous girl's mom).

Which came first, the troubled soul or the desire to commit suicide?

She was exploited just as Cindy Sheehan was exploited. Those who exploited her did not mean her well, they used her for their own purposes. This girl felt shame and regret because of it, Cindy Sheehan has yet to hit bottom.

15 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesnÂ’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

No law would have saved the kid, but being a good parent would have.


16 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:23 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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A ban a cell phones is needed NOW!!!!! How many more kids need to die because of this horrid device.
/sarc
17 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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Ummm... Where’s daddy?


18 posted on 03/23/2009 12:32:12 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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I bet cell phones have saved more kids lives than have been taken by them


19 posted on 03/23/2009 12:33:10 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: erkyl
And, while parents have an oversight responsibility, how about raising daughters who have enough respect for themselves to not be technology ‘ho’s’?

So there should be no blame for the boys circulating the photos?

The media culture is sexualizing kids. Laura Ingraham calls it the pornification of the culture. Kids are taught to not have self respect. There is no "god" that loves them. They are there to serve others. Notch up your bedpost, don't be a square. Tank your "purity test" score. Blog your affairs on myspace...

She did what she thought would get her attention from one or two people, she didn't seek to expose herself to the world.

20 posted on 03/23/2009 12:33:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("I certainly hope he (Bush) doesnÂ’t succeed" - Democratic strategist James Carville 9-11-2001)
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