UFO mystery solved according to Area 51 workers

Examiner ^ | April 7, | Michael Salla, Ph.D.

[JoeProBono]

Five former military personnel have come forward to reveal that they worked at the secretive Area 51 testing facility. While stationed at Area 51 they claimed they worked on top secret CIA and military projects including a supersonic jet that could travel at three times the speed of sound. The appearance and flight performance of the top secret OXCART program led it to being often mistaken as a UFO according to the whistleblowers. A Los Angeles Times article with their testimonies concluded that the UFO mystery has been solved. Before celebrating the solution of the UFO mystery, it’s worth considering some information that the LA Times article did not.

[JoeProBono]

OXCART or CIA Lockheed A-12 Spy Plane.

The LA Times article, "The Road to Area 51" was written by investigative author, Annie Jacobsen. She was able to interview the five retired military personnel due to a 2007 CIA decision to declassify fifty year old files concerning the OXCART or A-12 spy plane. This allowed the five to come forward for the first time to reveal their former classified activities. All revealed their roles in the CIA’s top secret development and testing of the OXCART as Lockheed's replacement for the U-2 for intelligence gathering flights over the Soviet Union. Satellites were still in development at the time so spy planes like the OXCART and U2 were a way of secretly gathering intelligence of Soviet operations. If a 1997 CIA History is to be believed, the UFO mystery was exploited as a convenient cover for spy planes like the U-2 and OXCART.

[silverleaf]

apparently the US govt has decided to take the approach that “it was the CIA”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5IKmWDmHk

[the long march]

Oh no not an aircraft that can go Mach 3.....I love it when folks decide they want 15 minutes (orless) in the spotlight

[mysterio]

Wow, it wasn’t space monsters. Who could have guessed that?

[varmintman]

That (people flying around in prop planes seeing jets for the first time) solves some of the UFO questions, but not all of them. Try doing google searches on “Apollo 20”....

[dead]

That's a funny article. It starts out claiming to solve the UFO "mystery" then sneak attacks the unsuspecting with proof(!) that this explanation is not enough!

It was like they reverse-engineered one of those standard "aliens are real" internet articles and used it for their own nefarious purposes!

Interstellar Overlord Glornuk will be pleased. I hope.

[peace with honor]

tell me it’s not so! I’ve seen the space ships at night when I left a certin place ( I think it was called the “Kit Kat Ranch” )in Nevada,I was seeing something

[Oatka]

I read/heard that the Big Secret of Area 51 was that thet were using some highly toxic fuels for the different test aircraft. Over the years, the spillage contaminated many areas on the base and if the EPA found out, they'd throw a rod.

The Las Vegas Review Journal had articles about workers there who were coming down with unknown diseases, yet in many cases the govt wouldn't tell their doctors what the men were exposed to.

[JoJo Gunn]

So does this mean that crop mutilation and alien buggery have also been solved? Will the kook fringe cottage industry now collapse?

*snicker*

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I wonder if these people can explain away angel hair (a spiderweb-like material that’s been observed with UFOs at times), animal mutilations (done with surgical precision), burn circles and other CE2Ks, grays (who only vagely resemble the humans that would be flying the advanced test aircraft), related medical phenomena (including, if true, odd pregnancies), and so on.

[JoJo Gunn]

Yeah, and can it explain away the so-called “Nordic” aliens? I’ve always wondered why our kooks see Greys, yet the Eurokooks see more “human” looking space aliens.

[Quix]

1. This info pile is a stinking pile.

A) 3 times the speed of sound is NOTHING of any significance. The SR71 was beyond that and it’s very old news.

B) Cute . . . a group of highly classified employees . . . in projects so black that one never really becomes FREE from the strictures related thereto as long as one lives . . . all pontificate in tidy little ways of help to the powers that be. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO impressive. [NOT!]

C) These employees like all others in such categories work in very compartmentalized projects. For them to then come out and remotely claim [not that they did—the editor or some such seems to have] that they have solved the whole collection of UFO related mysteries is hogwash.

2. This pile is a VERY LONG WAY from clearing up a long list of TYPES OF EVIDENCE and a much longer list of evidence that has little to nothing to do with their assertions in the article.

A) Abduction related impregnations and removing of end of 1st trimester half-breed/hybrid babies.

B) 4,000+ cases of tangible trace evidence left behind on the environment of landing cases.

C) cattle and human mutilations.

. . .

. . .

[Quix]

Fascinating how easy it seems to be for you to swallow this pile of stinking nonsense.

Quacks like, flies like, waddles like swims like flies like

a pile of terminal gullibility to the max in one silly direction vs

a pile of terminal skepticism in the other direction.

Fascinating paradox.

[Quix]

I thought you were wiser than that even with your card carrying government issue blinders and all.

[Quix]

INDEED.

And a lot more besides.

[Quix]

Didn’t realize that you were that misinformed.

Folks see a mixture all around the world.

[JoJo Gunn]

I thought you were wiser than that even with your card carrying government issue blinders and all.

It was sarcasm, Quix. Not for a nanosecond would I or any rational person think y'all's carnival sideshow will end. 

[JoJo Gunn]

Didn’t realize that you were that misinformed.

But of course I'm misinformed! I don't suffer from such hallucinations.  

[Quix]

Right.

Naysayers’ fantasies are of a quite different sort.

[JoJo Gunn]

Our fantasies are down to Earth.

[Star Traveler]

The article says — “While stationed at Area 51...”

—

Now how could they have been stationed at a facility that did not exist (according to the government)... :-)

[Quix]

Not in my book.

Naysayer fantasies tend to

1. violate Occam’s razor wholesale.

2. virtually insure a TYPE II ERROR fairly routinely.

3. have little understanding or fitting appreciation, respect for piles of evidence well beyond the qualities of evidence that, in court, would convict a murderer to death.

4. be routinely wholesale unscientific and rife with seemingly willfully blind bias and wholesale ignorance.

[JoeProBono]

[Quix]

I wondered how long before they had his number! LOL.

[Quix]

I hope he doesn’t volunteer for an anal probe just

for

the thrill of it!

I gather that finesse isn’t in their vocabulary.

[Las Vegas Dave]

JoeProBono, very good!! Very, very good!

BTW: next time I answer a jjg's reply, I will do my best to put the response in single syllable sentences for her/him to comprehend. < snort >

[JoJo Gunn]

I hope he doesn’t volunteer for an anal probe just

for

the thrill of it!

I gather that finesse isn’t in their vocabulary.

Be careful. My old pal Jessup will get upset. You know, the yawn inducing "you talk so much about alien buggery, you must be a closet queer" will spew from him like a Krakatoa of drool.

[JoJo Gunn]

Oh dear me, Dave. I’d almost forgotten to respond to your latest goofy post, the one where you again put up a postage stamped size image of nothing, and say the originals are in a safe place, blah blah blah ha ha ha.

How nice of you to tear yourself away from the TeeVee, by the way. I hope the delerium tremens won’t be too severe.

[mkjessup]

I hope he doesn’t volunteer for an anal probe just for the thrill of it! I gather that finesse isn’t in their vocabulary.
Be careful. My old pal Jessup will get upset. You know, the yawn inducing "you talk so much about alien buggery, you must be a closet queer" will spew from him like a Krakatoa of drool.

It's not so bad JoJo, the nurses digitally check our prostates every month, you get used to it.

Hey, we had strawberry ice cream today, I ate your share, lol

[MaxMax]

The Government also took farrakhan up to the mothership.
The plan worked perfectly.

[Quix]

It’s worth the risks just to see what new silliness will flow from your fingers! LOL.

[Quix]

Now, JoJo,

That’s too beneath you. I mean, don’t even naysayers have SOME code of conduct?

You made all kinds of noise about the photos and the details. Eventually Las Vegas Dave helped you make a fool of yourself by all your ranting etc. etc. etc. about that photo.

Then he let you know that he personally took the photo and has the 35mm film results.

Now tell me . . .

IF the shoe was on the other foot . . .

would

YOU

turn such a film over to such a cantankerous, contrary, negative, slippery, bait-and-switch, nonsensical etc. sort of hostile opponent?

As a psychologist, I wouldn’t consider such a move overly sane.

It’s likely that Dave could give you whatever specs on the film and photo. He could even turn the film over to an independent expert.

However, I doubt it’s worth his bother. NO FACTS seem to have the slightest influence on your understanding or ability to deal more remotely charitably with the truth.

On that photo issue, I think you get a failing grade big time . . . well earned.

[Quix]

Oh DEAR

NOT the strawberry ice cream consequence.

Now THAT hurts!

[Tainan]

..."alien buggery"...

..*snicker*...*snicker*...now thats funny.

[Quix]

Funny?

Depends on one’s . . . uhhhh . . . perspective . . .

or . . . uhhhh . . . position

in the over all . . . uhhhh scheme . . . of things . . . on the scene.

[BIGLOOK]

Stumbling along searching for something to read that doesn't have Obama or Congress in it, trying to cheer myself up a bit....stumbled onto this.



It would make a great....and fun Fly By some weekend, wouldn't it?

Lauren....that's Groom Lake, part of Nellis AFB, the infamous Area 51.

[laurenmarlowe]

Area 51 it is BIGLOOK! Thank you!

[JoeProBono]

'UFO phenomenon is real' says Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell on ABC News. Why the cover-up? April 7 2009

[SunkenCiv]

Wow, the well-known SR-71 was the cause of UFO sightings. Heh... At least we know where the credulity lies vis a vis the UFO controversy. :’)

[Quix]

The SR71 was fast—particularly compared to other planes.

Compared to UFO’s it was standing still.

And certainly the SR71 did NOT do right angle turns at extremely high [unattainable for even it] speeds.

[SunkenCiv]

exactly. Also, no one ever saw one hover. :’)

[Quix]

AMEN.

Thx for your kind affirming post.

[SunkenCiv]

My pleasure.

[Quix]

Although,

there are a few reports of some of our super advanced planes being dual propulsion . . .

and . . . drum roll . . .

hovering silently.

[Quix]

Though to me . . . that seems like a lot of extra weight and falderall

just for . . . camouflage.

[Quix]

On the other hand . . . seducing an opponent’s fighter into a dogfight and then

clicking in the antigrav system would instantly give one incredible maneuvering options . . .

[mad_as_he$$]

The Kit Kat is a long ways from A51. However, many have report strange sightings near the Kit Kat.

[JoJo Gunn]

Funny you should bring up the nurses.

My delay in getting back to this fun-fest has been due to a slightly severe case of being short winded and having rapid and erratic heartbeat. In other words, congestive heart failure. Oh well, that’s the short version from one who is tired, wants sleep, but has some new medicines to discover the joys of. Oh, and there’s “rabies” shots too. :)

(High powered blood thinner in the stomach twice a day for 5 more days, name of “Lovenox”).

Dang aliens didn’t come to my rescue, dang it, and I’m royally ticked.

I’m sure someone would have horror stories about the place, but my stay at the hospital (in Columbia TN) was first rate. A helluva crew, 24-7. Even those pesky blood taking ‘vampires” were sweethearts.

Carry on, men.

[Quix]

Wellllllllllllll!

Glad you survived! Doesn’t sound like fun.

The rabies stuff . . . from dog bite or related to the heart thing somehow. I’m not sure I got your drift on that score.

We have to keep the thrown rock detectors in working order, after all!

[mysterio]

Happy Saturday to you.