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Thomas Frazier, father of 14 children, jailed for owing more than half-million in child support
Flint News ^ | April 11, 2009 | Bryn Mickle

Posted on 04/12/2009 11:51:53 AM PDT by fella

Thomas Frazier, father of 14 children, jailed for owing more than half-million in child support

by Bryn Mickle | The Flint Journal

Saturday April 11, 2009, 8:00 AM

FLINT, Michigan -- Fourteen children by 13 different women in Genesee County and more than $530,000 in unpaid child support.

Even in a county with $700 million in uncollected child support, Thomas Frazier may hold the unenviable title of biggest deadbeat dad.

After years of dodging support payments, Frazier was thrown in jail this week and given the choice of doing 90 days or coming up with about $28,000.

"This guy gives fathers a bad name," said Genesee County Friend of the Court Jack Battles.

Thomas Frazier

Before leaving the Flint area in 2002, Frazier amassed court cases for 14 children born since 1989 and has not paid any money on any of his Genesee County child support cases in at least the past six years, according to court records.

Frazier, 42, portrays himself as the victim.

The victim of a system that he says saddled him with debt for children he claims aren't all his and the victim of a poor upbringing that he said caused him to seek affection from older women.

"I tried to find someone who would love me for me," said Frazier, who believes he may have fathered his first child at age 15.

Authorities say Frazier is a serial womanizer who bounces from state to state and hasn't paid child support in years.

Frazier owes Talisha Tyler about $40,000 for a 14-year-old daughter. Tyler said he has never even bought so much as a diaper.

"Thomas has never been involved in her life -- period," said Tyler.

A Genesee County judge on Thursday ordered Frazier to spend 90 days in jail unless he comes up with $4,100 for Tyler.

Even if he comes up with that money, the judge ordered him to spend 90 days in jail on another case. On top of that, the judge gave him 45 days jail on six other cases.

In all, Frazier is looking at three months in jail unless he comes up with at least $27,900.

Tyler would just as soon see him go to prison for much longer.

"He's a fast talker," she said. "He's not going to pay it."

Frazier doesn't dispute that he owes a sizable amount, but said it was unrealistic for the county to expect him to pay so much support.

"At one point, I owed like $3,000 (a month)," he said. "Nobody makes that much."

He said he believes in his hear that only three of the children -- two daughters and a son -- are actually his.

The rest, he says, were born of women he may have slept with but who lied and claimed he was the father, giving the court false addresses for Frazier so that he could never show up to contest paternity.

Local officials, however, say Frazier has a story for everything.

In October, Friend of the Court officials said Frazier gave them a false Social Security number and tried to convince investigators he was someone else.

He remained under the radar until late last month when he got pulled over in Iowa for a broken taillight on his Mercedes Benz.

In his pocket, police found $5,000 in cash and plane tickets to Florida.

Frazier said he is unemployed and local officials said they do not know what he does for a living.

Frazier said he was actually on his way back to Flint and planned to use the $5,000 as a good faith payment on his child support.

The cop tossed him in jail on child support warrants and then had him delivered Wednesday to the Genesee County Jail.

Frazier says he "messed up" and wants to take care of his mistakes, but hopes the Friend of the Court will knock down his bill to a more manageable $200,000 and set him free.

"There's not a lot I can do in jail," Frazier said.

Frazier's plan for freedom won't get a lot of support from the Friend of the Court.

"We will seek prison," said Battles, who says he's heard a litany of excuses from Frazier.

Battles said he's willing to work with Frazier but said it's going to take a lot more than $5,000.

"It will take six digits," said Battles.

His current jail term aside, Frazier is also looking at further legal woes for his probation violation cases.

Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton is not in a forgiving mood, noting that Frazier was rolling around in Mercedes Benz with thousands of dollars and plane tickets at the same time he wasn't paying his child support.

"Shame on him for abandoning his children while he lives 'The Life of Riley,'" said Leyton.

Frazier, who has already spent five years on probation for attempted non support of a child, does have one piece of advice for his children.

"Use a condom," he said. "You don't want to end up like your dad."


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Like he says he can't do nothing about while he's in jail, like hide,run or maybe even pay.
1 posted on 04/12/2009 11:51:53 AM PDT by fella
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To: fella
Well....just a suggestion.
Remove and sell any of his organs that there is a market for.
His kidneys should reduce his debt substantially!.
2 posted on 04/12/2009 11:54:05 AM PDT by 45semi ("Islam has bloody borders" - Samuel Huntington)
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To: fella

Hey this guy is just doing what Obama’s father did, spreading around his seed....


3 posted on 04/12/2009 11:56:11 AM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: fella

This guy needs to be sterilized, like the stray cat that he is.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 11:56:50 AM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: fella

Yea, but for the time he’s in, he can’t make any more kids.
Who do you think has been paying for all those kids up till now?
You. Me. Everyone else.
Keep him there. He never will pay. Let him out with a vasectomy and call it even.


5 posted on 04/12/2009 11:58:16 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: fella
"At one point, I owed like $3,000 (a month)," he said. "Nobody makes that much."

Huh?! I've made lots more than that in a DAY!! What world does this guy live in?!

6 posted on 04/12/2009 11:58:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't spread my wealth, spread my work ethic!)
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To: fella
The former head of the NAACP, Kwesi Mfumi (sp?) had 6 or seven kids by 5 or 6 different women, and that was 10 years ago.

It is unconscionable, to me, that any “man” could be so indifferent to his offspring.

And leftists want me to be understanding and accept the “diversity” of unwed parenting like this?
Feral animals are a better description of what is going on here, and all funded by American TAXPAYERS.

7 posted on 04/12/2009 11:59:00 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (Politicians = Proof Positive that Crime does Pay.)
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To: 45semi
Remove and sell any of his organs that there is a market for.

I doubt the guy would qualify as a donor. (I realize that you were be humorous)

As many sexual partners as he has had, he probably would test positive for hepatitis.

8 posted on 04/12/2009 12:06:27 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: fella

Sounds like he should tie the knot with the octomom and make it 28!


9 posted on 04/12/2009 12:07:02 PM PDT by golf lover
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To: fella; All
Remove and sell any of his organs that there is a market for.

Not that I would defend this stray dog of a man but why has no one on the thread mentioned the women who had unprotected sex with this man.

It takes two people to make a baby. This guy stayed around in these towns long enough to father multiple children. I would suspect that at least a couple of these women knew each other and knew that he had fathered unsupported children with other women.

My point is that the women had sex with this man having no reasonable expectation that he would ever support the child that they had together.

10 posted on 04/12/2009 12:14:45 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: fella
The real problem is that women are allowed to collect money from men they make babies with without benefit of marriage.

If you aren't married to the guy, you should be allowed to collect a penny.

If you subsidize unwed motherhood, you get more of it.

11 posted on 04/12/2009 12:16:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Pontiac
It takes two people to make a baby. This guy stayed around in these towns long enough to father multiple children. I would suspect that at least a couple of these women knew each other and knew that he had fathered unsupported children with other women.

My point is that the women had sex with this man having no reasonable expectation that he would ever support the child that they had together.

Uuuuuuuuuh ............ he was caught driving a Benz, with $5,0000 in pocket money and tickets to FLA and no mention about a job ................................................................................ You don't think that the ladies were doing it for the drugs do ya?

12 posted on 04/12/2009 12:35:46 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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WOW 14 children by 13 women, a real PLAYA who can really git his FREAK on.


13 posted on 04/12/2009 12:52:32 PM PDT by Mister Muggles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$3000 in a day? I want to live in your world.


14 posted on 04/12/2009 12:59:21 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: fella

I think he ought to get a vasectomy as a condition of staying free. Mothers on welfare should show evidence that they are on birth control.


15 posted on 04/12/2009 1:00:30 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: fella
You don't think that the ladies were doing it for the drugs do ya?

Or just a good time. The guy no doubt likes to throw money around.

16 posted on 04/12/2009 1:04:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: fella

While I don’t condone what this man has done, it is foolish to jail him or even expect him to pay over $500,000 in child support. He will NEVER have it and to continue to expect fairy-tale cash is just stupid.

What we will have is either a slave for life or a permanent debt prisoner. These child-support decisions are just getting ridiculous. In the old days, a woman got a little extra, now she can get over 50% of a man’s weekly salary. How is he supposed to live?

Just because man and ATM have 3 letters each should not mean they are the same.


17 posted on 04/12/2009 1:14:55 PM PDT by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: fella

After reading this does anyone still wonder why 75% of black children are born to unwed mothers and why abortion is so prevalent ?

Of course I am assuming that these mothers are mostly black an assumption that could be entirely wrong as many white women find the black man attractive.

It’s a two way street. Has anyone wondered that if this man got 13 women pregnant ,how many did he have sex with? I wonder if STD’s are involved?

I feel empathy for the children, but the mother’s are victims of their own lust, I have no empathy for them whatsoever.


18 posted on 04/12/2009 1:18:45 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: fella

Hey...the guy’s only doing what democrats have paid blacks to do for the past 50 years, that is breed, loaf and live off of those who work.


19 posted on 04/12/2009 1:26:16 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with the Gypsy.
Can you give us directions to get to this other world you speak of?
:)


20 posted on 04/12/2009 1:41:39 PM PDT by mowowie
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