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Fish May Actually Feel Pain And React To It Much Like Humans
sciencedaily ^ | Apr. 30, 2009)

Posted on 04/30/2009 4:34:19 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Fish don't make noises or contort their faces to show that it hurts when hooks are pulled from their mouths, but a Purdue University researcher believes they feel that pain all the same. Joseph Garner, an assistant professor of animal sciences, helped develop a test that found goldfish do feel pain, and their reactions to it are much like that of humans. "There has been an effort by some to argue that a fish's response to a noxious stimuli is merely a reflexive action, but that it didn't really feel pain,"

Garner said. "We wanted to see if fish responded to potentially painful stimuli in a reflexive way or a more clever way." Garner and Janicke Nordgreen, a doctoral student in the Norwegian School of Veterinary Science, attached small foil heaters to the goldfish and slowly increased the temperature. The heaters were designed with sensors and safeguards that shut off the heaters to prevent any physical damage to a fish's tissue. Half of the fish were injected with morphine, and the others received saline. The researchers believed that those with the morphine would be able to withstand higher temperatures before reacting if they actually felt the pain. However, both groups of fish showed a response at about the same temperature.

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TOPICS: Food; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; fish; partialbirthabortion

1 posted on 04/30/2009 4:34:20 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Well, then I thank them for their sacrifice to my BBQ.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 4:36:12 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: JoeProBono

I smell PETA


3 posted on 04/30/2009 4:40:29 PM PDT by Joiseydude (Kate Smith - God Bless America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM GREAT visual interpretatio)
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To: JoeProBono

I pretty much get over the guilt by the time that light breading starts to brown.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 4:41:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: JoeProBono

What an unbelievably bogus conclusion. Response to temp diff in a fish and response to pain in a mammal are absurdly different.


5 posted on 04/30/2009 4:41:22 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: JoeProBono

I’m pretty much get over the guilt by the time that light breading starts to brown.


6 posted on 04/30/2009 4:41:32 PM PDT by digger48
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To: JoeProBono

Elaine: These fish are dying! They're gasping for oxygen right now! They'll be floating in an hour.

7 posted on 04/30/2009 4:41:58 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: JoeProBono

PETA says we should call fish ‘sea kittens’ so as to discourage us from eating them. Maybe we should call crabs sea ticks. Just a thought.


8 posted on 04/30/2009 4:43:27 PM PDT by beefree
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To: earlJam

Analogous...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2007/08/scientific-method.html


9 posted on 04/30/2009 4:44:53 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: digger48

10 posted on 04/30/2009 4:47:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: svcw; digger48; JoeProBono
My apologies, then, to the donor of that 30 oz. salmon fillet that's about to get basted in honey, rubbed with seasoning, sea salt and cracked pepper, and get thrown on a smoking cedar plank on my grill. I'm sure it would appreciate being served with the wild rice pilaf and warm garlic Tandoori bread that my wife and I plan on dressing it with.

Ba fungu, PETA!


11 posted on 04/30/2009 4:48:00 PM PDT by Viking2002 (This tagline for rent.)
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To: JoeProBono
who the hell ever said they don't feel pain???

just cause it doesn't scream bloody murder while it's being gutted alive doesn't mean it doesn't feel it, all God's creatures feel pain...

12 posted on 04/30/2009 4:49:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: beefree
Maybe we should call crabs sea ticks. Just a thought

Or...howabout calling them PETA Pants Pals.............


OH!!!......you meant the OTHER kind of crabs!!!
13 posted on 04/30/2009 4:49:25 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: earlJam

14 posted on 04/30/2009 4:51:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Fish seems fine....
15 posted on 04/30/2009 4:55:27 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: rickomatic

“PETA Pants Pals”

That is the best one I’ve heard all day!


16 posted on 04/30/2009 4:56:03 PM PDT by beefree
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To: JoeProBono

I will not negotiate with a fish without preconditions.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 4:56:25 PM PDT by Gator113 ( IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.......)
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To: Viking2002
Mmmmmm


18 posted on 04/30/2009 4:57:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Chode

19 posted on 04/30/2009 5:00:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono; girlangler

Oh great, now ZerObama’s coming after the fishermen. Now, when you pull a hooked fish up in the air, it will be known as “air-boarding” and you will have to testify before Congress.


20 posted on 04/30/2009 5:01:33 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: JoeProBono
Ahhh. The PETA Vegan Crusade continues. Here's my contribution to the effort.


21 posted on 04/30/2009 5:03:19 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: JoeProBono

Hey, thanks for the reminder. Gotta take those halibut steaks outta the freezer.


22 posted on 04/30/2009 5:05:33 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: JoeProBono

23 posted on 04/30/2009 5:10:19 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CaribouCrossing

I have to cancel my appointments with my shrink. I’ve sworn that I’ve heard lobster cry out in pain when I drop them in boiling water. I know I’ve heard some similar noise when I’ve cut grapes off the vine and let’s not even go there when it comes to harvesting potatoes and carrots. I feel so relieved.


24 posted on 04/30/2009 5:13:03 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin st)
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To: paulycy

25 posted on 04/30/2009 5:13:33 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

End fishing now! It is cruel and inhumane.

What's that? Fish are not humans? Nevermind. Pass the worms please...

26 posted on 04/30/2009 5:15:59 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: JoeProBono

I’ll side with Jesus; if it was good enough for Him.........


27 posted on 04/30/2009 5:16:55 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: JoeProBono

HA! Now, that’s bizarre!


28 posted on 04/30/2009 5:17:07 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: shadeaud

You ain’t heard nothin’ until you’ve heard the terrified screams of dust bunnies as they’re brutally sucked up into a Hoover.


29 posted on 04/30/2009 5:19:03 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: Doogle

30 posted on 04/30/2009 5:19:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: TheBattman

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.

Teach a man about PETA’s positions and he starves to death.


31 posted on 04/30/2009 5:21:12 PM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: JoeProBono

Goldfish feel pain yet a fetus does not.


32 posted on 04/30/2009 5:24:25 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: beefree

33 posted on 04/30/2009 5:27:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Sea Kittens are yummy!


34 posted on 04/30/2009 5:35:01 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: JoeProBono

Well, good. We throw our catch into the ice chest with ice when we take them out of the live well. We don’t even own any little foil heaters, and we wouldn’t attach them to the fish if we did.


35 posted on 04/30/2009 5:35:48 PM PDT by LucyJo (Crazy doesn't even begin to cover it.)
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To: TheBattman

36 posted on 04/30/2009 5:36:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: LucyJo

37 posted on 04/30/2009 5:39:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
LOL.
38 posted on 04/30/2009 5:42:13 PM PDT by LucyJo (Crazy doesn't even begin to cover it.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

There ya go! : )


39 posted on 04/30/2009 5:45:07 PM PDT by LucyJo (Crazy doesn't even begin to cover it.)
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To: nevergore

40 posted on 04/30/2009 5:45:53 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Joiseydude
I smell PETA

Oh yeah. Now they're gonna go after fishermen like they've gone after hunters in the past.

All those fishatarians are gonna be disappointed, though.

41 posted on 04/30/2009 5:48:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: digger48

There is a place for all God’s creatures. (picture here a couple of nice sea kittens). Right next to the fries and tarter sauce. I hate when they keep flopping while I am trying to filet them, so I put them on ice first. Keeps the accidental stabbings down.


42 posted on 04/30/2009 5:50:28 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: beefree

I say we call PITA “Bullship” (modified version to keep from getting banned) because everything they spew smells like bullship (modified version to keep from getting banned)...

Just a thought.


43 posted on 04/30/2009 5:57:24 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M. Thatcher)
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To: JoeProBono

Fish have no temperature induced pain receptors. They are cold-blooded.


44 posted on 04/30/2009 6:00:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: JoeProBono

Fish have no temperature induced pain receptors. They are cold-blooded.


45 posted on 04/30/2009 6:00:33 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood
Fish have no temperature induced pain receptors. They are cold-blooded.

Nothing like 'facts' to screw up a good sympathy story.

46 posted on 04/30/2009 6:28:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: JoeProBono

Is it torture to water-board a fish, or are you just doing him a favor?


47 posted on 04/30/2009 6:51:47 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: JoeProBono

My aunt used to toss live crabs into boiling water. As they frantically tried to escape, she told me little sister, “Aw, they don’t have nerves, honey”.


48 posted on 05/01/2009 9:51:37 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (I am inconsolate over the death of our country.)
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To: EAGLE7
Fish seems fine....

But Tessio sleeps with the fishes.

49 posted on 05/01/2009 9:54:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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