Posted on 05/08/2009 12:03:09 AM PDT by dr_lew
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Star Trek" debuts in movie theaters on Thursday backed by huge hype, but whether the film based on a 43-year-old franchise can win young fans and big box office returns has industry watchers scratching their heads.
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Too much "Cloverfield." Not enough "Lost."
It was sort of a background part. He performed a key plot action early on, and was onscreen a number of times, but definitely in the background.
The Wild Wild West was one of my favorite shows. I didn’t even think of seeing the re-make. I’md done w/the first season on DVD and will be getting season 2.
We have tickets for tonight. We didn’t have a TV in the house when I was growing up. Caught the whole Star Trek thing in reruns and the movies. I don’t go overboard, but consider myself a fan - I’ve made Star Trek costumes for Halloween a couple of times in my life :-)
I’m looking forward to a watchable film. Like others I am tired of bad movies pushing liberal messages. I’m particularly happy about this film as Chris Pine is a cousin and I’m happy to see him get this role.
“Hard to watch something that is so obscenely non-canon”
I agree even if there are good parts to the film. I’ve been reading reviews with sufficient *spoilers* and they say that they’ve trashed a few characters. Spock an emotional mess? McCoy has trouble telling the truth? Uhura sleeping her way to the bridge of a star ship with Spock? That doesn’t make any sense for a Vulcan story line. Since explosions are not particularly entertaining to me, I’ll wait for the DVD and rent it.
>> I will see what I call, Star Trek 90210 <<
A long, long time ago, I wrote a spoof of my fellow college classmates entitled, “Deep Space 90210.”
Man is that true. Somehow, somewhere directors and producers forgot that movies are suppose to be entertaining - a 120 minute escape from you real troubles.
Now it seems, every movie made has to have some political thematic message that the director uses to beat his audiences practically senseless right from the time that the opening credits roll until the closing credits end.
No thanks. I just want to be entertained. If I wanted a sermon, I would have gone to church.
Looking forward to having my very dear friend and I go to see it in the next week or two. Seen the online previews.:)=^..^=
Biggirl
Anything to wait for at the end of the credits?
The lights come on and people exit the theater. ;p
No, no and no. Who's telling you these things? They are full of it.
All right, smart-aleck.
Some movies (i.e. Pirates of the Caribbean, Iron Man) have some little extra bit at the end.
Does Star Trek?
People over worship canon. TOS didn’t even have canon, it was just there, then when things rebirthed they started retro-fitting canon all over the place. But every new series and most of the movies broke that “canon”, with the time to get from point A to point B at warp X changing constantly, the very definition of “warp X” changing, races disappearing, races changing their make-up, race appearing but in a way where they’ve always been there, the concept of “canon” in Trek is a complete joke. The really can’t “break” canon, canon never really existed in the first place.
Nope, and that’s what I think everyone was waiting for though heh.
That’s too bad. I love Karl Urban. What about Eric Bana’s part? Pretty big as the villian?
Well, a bit before 1979, but I was 5 and remembered all the marketing for when ST1 came out in the theaters (even got the toys and Happy Meal box at McDonalds). When TOS was run in heavy rotation, I became a hardcore fan, just about parsing every line (right down to references like “the little blonde lab technician” uttered in the 2nd pilot by Gary Mitchell (was he in this new film ?) to refer to Dr. Carol Marcus in ST2).
My problem is what I said before, from all the previews I’ve seen, there’s about a thousand examples of rewriting history in this new film. Whenever I hear “Reimagining”, I tend to cringe, that means a total whitewash. All the previews look like that execrable “Lost In Space” film of a decade ago, right down to the spinning ship movements and maddening action sequences. The more I see it, the more it really looks like a slap in the face to people that have been fans from the get-go.
You even pointed it out yourself if they attempt to do future films with the “alterations” since so much has been changed they’ve made it all meaningless. Roddenberry wouldn’t be happy with this.
I think there was a way to have done this film as-is and save face, and that was for it to have been a film-within-a-film. Have Nimoy pop up at the end (as Spock), along with Uhura, Sulu and Chekov, talking to an early 24th century film director who has just “screened” the above film (as a fictional and fanciful portrayal) for them, with them all chiming in saying, “That’s not quite how it happened !” That way nothing is altered whatsoever, it’s just a “story.”
I’ll wait for the DVD myself (if only because my hearing can’t tolerate the noise level in the theaters... I say the last Star Wars film in the theater and I had to cover my ears for the whole thing, ugh).
But anyway, as to the characters, yes, that certainly is trashing them. The problem with Spock’s “dealing with his emotions” was fairly well fleshed-out in the series (although some room to address why he was more open with his feelings in the pilot episode, smiling while looking at a plant on Talos IV, etc). McCoy as a liar ? That makes no sense at all. He was one of the singlemost blunt and honest characters, period. Uhura was certainly no slut, she was a highly professional and intelligent individual who earned her position (after all, if she was able to confound both Spock and Kirk in shorting out the communications system in one ep, she was certainly no dummy). They diminish her enormously by making her like that (and all I’ve seen from the commercials is NuUhura played by some skinny, nubile actress ripping her top off, and I’m sorry, but that’s not Uhura, period).
Like I said, the more I hear, the more I cringe.
There was canon, and it was pissed on by Rick Berman and Co. from practically the moment Roddenberry died. Frankly, that last series they did, Enterprise, was a total joke. I didn’t regard that as canon, either. Like I said, it’s a shame they choose to trash the franchise, but don’t expect all of us that have been fans for decades to swallow it with gleeful delight.
Does anyone know if there will be any Star Trek movie threads today?
One stupidity I’ve seen in the previews is the sword fight that Sulu has with a Romulan baddie. Hmmm, the fate of an entire planet is in the balance and this mook decides to take a SWORD with him to kill the bad guys, one of whom just happens to have his own sword? Yeah, right.
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