Posted on 05/08/2009 12:03:09 AM PDT by dr_lew
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Star Trek" debuts in movie theaters on Thursday backed by huge hype, but whether the film based on a 43-year-old franchise can win young fans and big box office returns has industry watchers scratching their heads.
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Read what’s being posted. I already posted that was a bunch of nonsense.
I have, but when you wrote “film is completely canon”, you’ll forgive me if I say that’s patently ludicrous.
Since you claim to have seen it, was the Gary Mitchell character in it ?
No he wasn’t. However, since I have seen it, I will correct comments from folks who haven’t, when they’re incorrect.
The writers needed an antagonist and they probably said, “Romulan, Klingon, Romulan... yeah, let’s go with a Romulan bad guy.” Not very original, and they do violate canon big-time, apparently explaining it away as a perturbation of the time line.
And there’s yet another problem. Mitchell was Kirk’s best friend all the way back to the Academy and they served together on prior assignments. If he’s not there, that’s yet another non-canonical revisionism. Did they have Kirk serving under Pike in the film ? That wold also be non-canon. How did they handle McCoy’s entry ? As I said, the revisionism I’ve seen so far has been epic. It reminds me of the Democrats trying to claim Lincoln was one of them and that they were the Civil Rights party all along.
Sounds even worse than the wreckage that was “Enterprise.” Y’know, it’s amazing for how many of us that are fans that we could come up with a coherent and exciting story line tying together the whole universe without f’ing up the canon, and yet they manage to hire the very people that just don’t give a damn. I’m surprised they didn’t make Uhura a short, balding, middle-aged Guatemalan man.
Gotta make Uhura an attractive young woman, so she can strip out of her uniform on-screen and be the eye candy for the young guys in the audience.
Well, I’m not a prude. There’s a way to handle it without it being out of character, y’know ?
I hope to make it later on this week, possibly to a late showing on a weeknight so that the theater isn't as crowded.
Hope that it’s not the SF and you recover soon. Enjoy the movie when you finally do see it.
I’ll wait for the DVD myself (if only because my hearing can’t tolerate the noise level in the theaters... I say the last Star Wars film in the theater and I had to cover my ears for the whole thing, ugh).
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I’ve found that a set of cheap foam earplugs works very well. The cheap ones don’t block all the sound but they attenuate it enough that it’s no longer painful. I can still hear all the dialog and everything.
If Gary Mitchell was mentioned in this film, I missed it (and I was listening for it, BTW). Neither was Finnegan mentioned, though I’d have like to have seen him.
Regards,
Yeah, what I thought. And did I hear right that they had virtually ALL of them in the Academy together despite the fact they were all different ages (nevermind that IIRC, neither Scott nor McCoy went to the Academy) ? Or mentioning that Sulu was in Sciences (Astrophysics) before he switched to Command/Operations ?
Thanks. My other problem (besides the sound sensitivity) is that I have labyrinthitis, so it’s hard for me to look at large screens (especially IMAX) without getting quite... ill (think bad motion sickness).
Here’s how I see the age/timeline situation:
Spock appears to have already been a Lt.Cmdr., and an instructor at the Academy at the time JTK enters, not as a teenager, but as a young adult of about 23-24. I could be wrong about this, as I think the number of years between the attack on the Kelvin that kills JTK’s father IS mentioned, but I can’t remember it. Spock’s advanced rank does make sense, though, because Spock certainly IS older than JTK, or he wouldn’t have been on the Enterprise with Pike during “The Cage.”
McCoy is already an MD and enters the Academy at the same time as JTK, seemingly to get away from his ex-wife. (No mention of Joanna, but she was never mentioned in TOS, either).
Scott is already a Starfleet officer, and I’d say nearly a decade older than JTK. This makes sense to me. (I don’t recall hearing that Scotty did NOT go to the Academy; can you tell me where you heard that?)
Uhura is at least a plebe at the Academy when JTK enters.
Sulu and Chekov are both already officers. I don’t think Sulu’s commission is too offbase if JTK enters the Academy late, but Chekov...well, in the film he is referred to as “whiz kid” by Capt. Pike, and is only 17 years old. His age is mentioned in the movie as the reply to a direct question to him.
JTK does complete his Academy training in 3 years and not 4.
The biggest change, IMO, is that JTK actually takes command of the Enterprise FAR earlier than in TOS. In TOS, he takes command from Capt. Pike around age 30, after serving aboard at least one other ship, namely, the USS Farragut. There is a mention of the USS Farragut in the movie, but JTK is never a member of the crew. No mention of Capt. Garrovick that I heard.
Hope that helps, and if I made any gross errors, somebody please correct me.
Regards,
How does JTK get command of the Enterprise when he’s under 30 and just out of the Academy? In TOS they made a big deal about how hard it was to be made captain of a starship.
Or...”Star trek”, The Acne Generation...
And how are the key crew memebsr all young and fresh out of the academy? Why were they not split up and assigned to various other ships?
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