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8 reasons why this is the dumbest generation
boston.com ^

Posted on 05/15/2009 7:20:03 AM PDT by BBell

Author Mark Bauerlein aims to provoke in his new book, "The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future" (Tarcher/Penguin). Do you agree? Take a look at eight reasons the Emory University English professor gives to ''not trust anyone under 30'' -- see which you think is the best. Disagree, or have your own spin? Have your say on this message board. Or see if Bauerlein answered your question directly in a chat from Wednesday, May 14.

1. They make excellent "Jaywalking'' targets

Bauerlein writes: "The ignorance is hard to believe ... It isn't enough to say that these young people are uninterested in world realities. They are actively cut off from them. ... They are encased in more immediate realities that shut out conditions beyond -- friends, work, clothes, cars, pop music, sitcoms, Facebook.''

2. They don't read books -- and don't want to, either

"It's a new attitude, this brazen disregard of books and reading. Earlier generations resented homework assignments, of course, and only a small segment of each dove into the intellectual currents of the time, but no generation trumpeted aliteracy ... as a valid behavior of their peers.''

3. They can't spell

Lack of capitalization and IM codes dominate online writing. Without spellcheck, folks are toast.

4. They get ridiculed for original thought, good writing

"On MySpace, if you write clearly and compose coherent paragraphs with informed observations on history and current events, 'buddies' will make fun of you,'' Bauerlein says. Wikipedia writing is clean and factual, but colorless and judgment-free. Often the most clever students, with flashes of disorganized brilliance on MySpace, switch to dull Wiki-writing formats for school papers, he says. "If we could combine the style and imagination of MySpace with the content of Wikipedia, we might get good stuff."

5. Grand

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I searched and could not find this posted. IMO the dumbest generation also seem to be Obamaites. I have not read this book but I'm sure it will explain why they love Bambi so much. I suspect it all comes down to shallowness and me! me! me! In my search to see if this article was posted I did find this:

The Not So Greatest Generation (The Dumbest Generation: Don't Trust Anyone Under 30)

1 posted on 05/15/2009 7:20:03 AM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Idiocracy is here.


2 posted on 05/15/2009 7:20:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator

Yup.

3 posted on 05/15/2009 7:22:38 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: BBell

Yeah, yeah, every generation has been labelled as such. Elvis was going to be the death of us all. Didn’t happen.


4 posted on 05/15/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: dfwgator
I have not seen “Idiocracy” but I probably should. I see it referred to enough here.
5 posted on 05/15/2009 7:24:08 AM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

picture in your mind a person of average intelligence, now remember that if they are average half the people are dumber than that, and now you know how Obama was elected.


6 posted on 05/15/2009 7:25:24 AM PDT by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: BBell
Hm. If I didn't know a whole bunch of smart, active, well-read teens who are the exact opposite of what this guy describes, I'd think he had a point.

That's not to deny the fact that there's a grain of truth in what this guy's complaining about, but I suspect that this next group of young folks is going to surprise us.

7 posted on 05/15/2009 7:25:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Yep, somehow, the world has survived millennia of “the worst generation ever.”


8 posted on 05/15/2009 7:28:02 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: DogBarkTree

I would take President Camacho over Obama any day.


9 posted on 05/15/2009 7:29:17 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Ever think about a long slow death?


10 posted on 05/15/2009 7:30:04 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: BBell

Not for children, though, but it makes a perfect point about the direction we as a society have been heading. Actually, I might shot it to a 16 year old to maybe help them understand why ignorance is no fun.


11 posted on 05/15/2009 7:30:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: BBell

You should. Its both hilarious and depressing (cause its true!) at the same time....


12 posted on 05/15/2009 7:30:44 AM PDT by Hazzardgate
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To: BBell

“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint” (Hesiod, 8th century BC).

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.” Unattributed, but sometimes attributed to Aristotle.


13 posted on 05/15/2009 7:31:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: huldah1776
Ever think about a long slow death?

For my ex, yeah.

14 posted on 05/15/2009 7:32:05 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: r9etb

All those copies of Harry Potter are apparently reading themselves.


15 posted on 05/15/2009 7:32:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BBell

Amazing, another those damned kids and their rock and roll music thread.


16 posted on 05/15/2009 7:33:25 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: BBell; BraveMan; FBD; Milhous; Disco Dave
Fellas, over here.
Pretty good piece; although, the *irony* of [it] being written by a "Professor" {spit} is almost too much.
I mean this *development, years in the making, has made his job quite uncomfortable? :o)

"I searched and could not find this posted. IMO the dumbest generation also seem to be Obamaites."

You're setting yourself up for quite a disappointment if you believe that. Especially when it comes to one the 10 reasons, listed.
Could you guess which one? ;^)

BTW, I voted on which of the 10 items I'd thought the best reason for the metastasizing banality.
Guess what happened after I voted & clicked on, "View Results"?

Nothing.
The link didn't work.
BWWWWWHAAAAAAA!!!

17 posted on 05/15/2009 7:34:45 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Landru

Or was it *8* items? :o)


18 posted on 05/15/2009 7:35:36 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: BBell
3. They can't spell

Lack of capitalization and IM codes dominate on line
writing. Without spell check, folks are toast.

Even with spell check, some people can't write a
complete sentence.

They use cant (semisecret jargon like thieves talk,
rap, pig Latin, etc) for the contraction of can not
(can't) and loose in place of lose or loss.

19 posted on 05/15/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I think that the second-oldest examples of writing on Earth - right after public-works accounting records - talk about, “These kids today! Can you believe what they’re up to? It’s the end of Civilization As We Know It!”


20 posted on 05/15/2009 7:36:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge."~Pr. 14:7)
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To: Larry Lucido

The science of knowledge is based on the notion that by finding the answers to a set of endless questions that somehow we will know all there is to know about all that is unknowable.


21 posted on 05/15/2009 7:37:23 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Larry Lucido

It’s catz.


22 posted on 05/15/2009 7:37:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge."~Pr. 14:7)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Agreed, I would use coherent istead of complete, though.


23 posted on 05/15/2009 7:38:47 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Landru
The link didn't work. 

 Worked for me

 

 

What reason makes the most sense for "The Dumbest Generation?"

2. Books? No thanks!
26.0%
7. Easy teachers, parents
20.9%
4. Clear thought ridiculed by peers
12.6%
8. Just age
11.9%
6. Don't retain information (who needs to?)
11.1%
3. Can't spell
6.5%
1. "Jaywalking'' gaps in knowledge
6.0%
5. Grand Theft Auto, etc.
5.1%
Total votes: 46449

24 posted on 05/15/2009 7:42:52 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Travis T. OJustice
I think it's different now. Elvis's gyrations were risque at the time. What is considered risque now is akin to porn. The dirty dancing that simulates sex that is done at kid's dances is an example. The pornographic lyrics of rap/hip hop that are so popular amongst even normal kids are another.

We have a younger generation who have been coddled and large portion of them believe capitalism is bad and socialism is good and more government is the answer. Schools used to be a source of morals and standards and now a good portion of them have been taken over by feel good liberal administrators with a everything is all right attitude. That is unless your Christian,or pro life, or pro traditional marriage etc. We have not lost yet but I worry too much.

25 posted on 05/15/2009 7:45:32 AM PDT by BBell
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I see to for too all the time.
(to many instead of too many)
Spell check won’t save you with those sort of spelling issues.


26 posted on 05/15/2009 7:47:57 AM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

4. Their penmanship horrible. A young man who has been trying to sell me muni bond investments began filling a form out on my behalf. When I saw his handwriting I demanded the form and told him, “I’ll fill it out myself!”

Huntsville - Re: spelling, it’s not that great at FR either. There have been innumerable instances of “there” for “they’re” or “their” and “your” for you’re.”


27 posted on 05/15/2009 7:50:13 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
They use cant (semisecret jargon like thieves talk, rap, pig Latin, etc) for the contraction of can not (can't) and loose in place of lose or loss.

And dont even get me started on the misuse and abuse of apostrophe's. Its even rampant among poster's on FR.

/(sarcastic intentional grammatical error's)

28 posted on 05/15/2009 7:50:47 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Landru

The view results link worked for me but the ‘Tell us about it’ link did not.


29 posted on 05/15/2009 7:51:12 AM PDT by BBell
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To: grjr21
Thanks, my friend. :^)

I see my choice is ranking third.

30 posted on 05/15/2009 7:51:24 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: 12Gauge687
spelling, it’s not that great at FR either

Hey! I resemble that remark!

31 posted on 05/15/2009 7:52:06 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications)
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To: Larry Lucido
All those copies of Harry Potter are apparently reading themselves.

I admit I chuckled ... but the truth is that the HP books are actually quite good on a number of levels. Fun and entertaining, but also they've got a good vs. evil theme that doesn't shy away from the ideas of "good" and "evil."

There's actually a growing genre of that type of kids' fiction -- heroes and bad guys duking it out over timeless themes -- and some of it is very well done. It makes the kids think, anyway.

32 posted on 05/15/2009 7:55:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Hm. If I didn't know a whole bunch of smart, active, well-read teens who are the exact opposite of what this guy describes, I'd think he had a point.

Anecdotal observations are fine, but the facts say otherwise. For example, 1 in 4 California high school students drop out, state says: Using a new system for tracking dropouts, California discloses a rate considerably higher than previously reported. About 1 in 3 students in Los Angeles Unified left school.

Or this: The Latino Education Crisis: The Consequences of Failed Social Policies, by Patricia Gandara and Frances Contreras, offers an unflinching portrait of Hispanics’ educational problems and reaches a scary conclusion about those problems’ costs. The book’s analysis is all the more surprising given that its authors are liberals committed to bilingual education, affirmative action, and the usual slate of left-wing social programs. Yet Gandara and Contreras, education professors at UCLA and the University of Washington, respectively, are more honest than many conservative open-borders advocates in acknowledging the bad news about Hispanic assimilation.

"Hispanics are underachieving academically at an alarming rate, the authors report. Though second- and third-generation Hispanics make some progress over their first-generation parents, that progress starts from an extremely low base and stalls out at high school completion. High school drop-out rates—around 50 percent—remain steady across generations. Latinos’ grades and test scores are at the bottom of the bell curve. The very low share of college degrees earned by Latinos has not changed for more than two decades. Currently only one in ten Latinos has a college degree.

That's not to deny the fact that there's a grain of truth in what this guy's complaining about, but I suspect that this next group of young folks is going to surprise us.

Surprise may be too mild a word. By 2023 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities. Except for Asians, the academic performance of blacks and Hispanics is a cause for great concern. High school drop-out rate in major US cities at nearly 50 percent: A report released Tuesday by an educational advocacy group founded by retired general and former Bush administration Secretary of State Colin Powell finds that almost half of all public high school students in the US’ fifty largest cities fail to graduate.

33 posted on 05/15/2009 7:55:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 12Gauge687
I have trouble with then and than, I have to think
is it a result of prior action or or is it just
pointing out a difference.
34 posted on 05/15/2009 7:55:26 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: BBell
Gottit, my friend.

And thanks for posting this.
Is a fascinating piece, one I've personally wondered about in part or whole for some time now.

The dumbing down of American citizens, for whatever reason(s), will manifest in so many ways we'll not be able to keep track.

Is there any single issue more important then the future of the USA; which, is precisely what the author's addressing. ;^)

35 posted on 05/15/2009 7:56:39 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: 12Gauge687
Re: spelling, it’s not that great at FR either. There have been innumerable instances of “there” for “they’re” or “their” and “your” for you’re.”

Marshal(l) law for martial, succession for secession, ammendment for amendment, sovereignity for sovereignty...Actually, I see these errors so often they now look correct to me, and the correct spelling looks "wrong".

36 posted on 05/15/2009 7:58:26 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: edzo4
3. They can't spell

Lack of capitalization and IM codes dominate online writing. Without spellcheck, folks are toast.

Hey, that's you!

37 posted on 05/15/2009 7:58:45 AM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: thecabal

He was dumber than a rock, but he loved America.


38 posted on 05/15/2009 7:59:59 AM PDT by Califreak (Stammer Lee, TOTUS and Beltway Bob have turned 1600 into a circus)
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To: Larry Lucido

“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint” (Hesiod, 8th century BC).

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.” Unattributed, but sometimes attributed to Aristotle.

You DO know what happened to Greece, of course. Now it’s happening to us.

Hank


39 posted on 05/15/2009 8:11:44 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: kabar
Yes, yes.... doom and gloom. We're all gonna die.

Statistics are great for that. And I don't even deny that we're headed for some tough times.

However.

Statistics don't address individuals, nor do they address the actions and motivations of individuals. Nor do they address how individuals respond to tough times.

This professor yutz is engaged in the time-honored navel-gazing lament, "why, oh why, can't the kids of today be as brilliant and swell as I am?"

The thing is, I've encountered some truly remarkable teens who run counter to what the contents of this guy's navel is telling him. Not just talented, but there's also something about their attitude, which is far more important; if I had to describe it, I'd start by saying that they're cynical about the right stuff. Real change is driven by that sort of attitude.

No, not all teens are remarkable; not even most of them -- but then, that's always been true. Sure, you can moan about Hispanic immigrants (which of course you would....), but they're not the ones who would make a difference in any case.

40 posted on 05/15/2009 8:12:19 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Yes, yes.... doom and gloom. We're all gonna die.

We're all gonna die!!!!



ZOMBIES!

41 posted on 05/15/2009 8:14:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Landru

The American Spectator link is more in depth about the author and book. The book sounds interesting and I will probably learn something from it as I’m out of tune with the current generations. My kids are 10 and 13 so I believe it won’t be long and I’ll have a crash course in current trends.


42 posted on 05/15/2009 8:15:01 AM PDT by BBell
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To: huldah1776
Ever think about a long slow death?

....... every single day of my miserable existance.

43 posted on 05/15/2009 8:15:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
ZOMBIES!

Damn, Laz.... I plumb forgot about the zombies. Crap!!!!

Crap!!!!

We're all gonna die!!!!

44 posted on 05/15/2009 8:15:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Landru

At least the article had pictures; saved thousands of words from being read.


45 posted on 05/15/2009 8:16:34 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BBell
The spelling thing is interesting since spelling has apparently only really been set since the 1800s. "By the time dictionaries were introduced in the mid 1600s, the spelling system of English started to stabilize, and by the 1800s, most words had set spellings." (I hate writing from Wiki, but it had the info for which I looked.)

I would also contend that it still isn't set; consider British "colour," "labour," and "civilization" against American "color," "labor," and "civilisation."

46 posted on 05/15/2009 8:17:24 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: In veno, veritas
Oh, drats! I switch the two civilizations. I still confuse them since I do tend to read a lot of British material.
47 posted on 05/15/2009 8:18:33 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: r9etb
Don't sweat that you forgot the zombies.

They're lining up at the unemployment office like the rest of us.

48 posted on 05/15/2009 8:19:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: edzo4
picture in your mind a person of average intelligence, now remember that if they are average half the people are dumber than that, and now you know how Obama was elected.

Half are below the median intelligence. I think more than half are below the average.

49 posted on 05/15/2009 8:19:32 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: BBell

.....3. They can’t spell.....

Freepers who post after turning 65 are exempt from spelling or typo errors


50 posted on 05/15/2009 8:19:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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