From the above link in my last post.
Posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono
GALENA, Ill. -- Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" -- made popular by Bing Crosby -- sat on the top of U.S. music charts on Jan. 4, 1947, out of this world so to speak. Several months later, Roswell, N.M. would become the epicenter of all things out-of-this world.
Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. was 11 when he was awakened around 1 a.m. on a July morning in 1947, when his father, Jesse Marcel, rushed into the family home. What he showed his wife and son changed the world forever.
Marcel Jr., the author of "The Roswell Legacy," was one of several guest speakers at this weekend's Out of This World UFO Conference at Eagle Ridge Resort and Spa in Galena.
Marcel Sr. was a U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, a major, who was dispatched to collect debris from a crash at a ranch near Roswell.
"He realized this was something unique, not a radar target or an aircraft or anything that he had ever seen before," Marcel Jr. told his Jo Daviess County audience. "He knew what radar targets looked like."
Marcel brought the debris into Jesse Marcel Jr.
Jesse Marcel Jr. began a 38-year military career in the U.S. Navy and went on to retire as a colonel in the National Guard. He works as a specialist in otolaryngology (ear, nose and throat medicine) at the Veterans Administration Hospital, Fort Harrison, Mont.
the house which was on the way from the ranch to the nearby air base. He wanted his family to see it. It was placed neatly on the kitchen floor.
"He said, 'Look at this. I think this is parts of a flying saucer,' or words to that effect," Marcel Jr. said. "I thought, 'What's a flying saucer?'"
The debris contained no electronic components, like vacuum tubes, resistors or condensers.
"There's a lot of foil-like debris, you can't really describe it," Marcel Jr. said. "It had a strange quality to it, weird stuff. It was like Mylar -- nothing like what we had in 1947 -- or what we have now. One of the beams had writing, resembling geometric symbols."
Marcel flew the debris to Fort Worth (Texas) Air Field where its commander, Gen. Roger Ramey examined it.
"The cover story started at that point," Marcel Jr. said. "The cover story was this was a radar target -- nothing more, which obviously was ludicrous."
Marcel Jr. recalled that after his father returned from Fort Worth, he told his family never to talk again about what had happened.
That's the way it was for many years until Stanton Friedman, a UFO investigator and nuclear physicist, interviewed Marcel Sr. in 1978 and got the story going from there.
Marcel Jr. said the incident changed his life.
"It actually made me more religious because it made me realize that our creator created a vast universe with other people out there -- so we're not the only ones," he said.
"It's maddening that the government has not released this information ...," he said. "They will in due time, and I hope in my lifetime because I would like to tell people I saw this stuff and I told you so."
From the above link in my last post.
Back in ‘93 I was acting as a Field Investigator for MUFON. Nowadays they are a debunking operation blaming everything on Venus sightings, but back then it was different. Fascinated with anti-grav propulsion I was drawn to UFO investigations. While reading a copy of UFO Magazine I came across yet another story about Project Bluebook. It gave the names of some of the people involved with Bluebook back then. I was reading the story aloud to a friend. He recognized one of the names in the story as being one that belongs to one of his professors who was teaching at the local State College. I contacted the person at the College. It was him. He came to my home a day later. He had a manila colored file folder with him. He told me that Project Blue Blook was not closed down in 1969 but ran up to almost 1980. Some of the materials which were collected at the end of the run were not turned in. His manila folder. In it were photos of “saucer nests”, round depressions in tall grass that were located in Northern California and were located on the ground beneath the spot where heavy UFO activity had been observed for some time and reported to Blue Book by a nearby military installation. There were 3 tripod depressions within the larger round depression. There were 2 larger round depressions some distance apart. They were radioactive well beyond normal background and displayed some phosphorescence in the night. He had color photos. He also said that while driving his Blue Book van up towards Northern California and the reported landing site, as he got close he wittnessed something associated with UFOs called Cryptozoology. A large Black Cat, a Puma or a Black Panther native to South America and out of place for Northern Cal, lept out of the forest at the side of the road and streaked across right in front of his truck. If you can imagine a mountain foothill ridge with a wide flat spot that overlooks the valley down below, thats where these 2 saucer nests were located...
Thanks much. Very interesting.
Fascinating story indeed. Did you stay in touch with the prof? Did he say anything about likely future events related to UFO’s?
I’m going to reformat it for easier reading below:
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Back in ‘93 I was acting as a Field Investigator for MUFON. Nowadays they are a debunking operation blaming everything on Venus sightings, but back then it was different.
Fascinated with anti-grav propulsion I was drawn to UFO investigations.
While reading a copy of UFO Magazine I came across yet another story about Project Bluebook. It gave the names of some of the people involved with Bluebook back then. I was reading the story aloud to a friend. He recognized one of the names in the story as being one that belongs to one of his professors who was teaching at the local State College. I contacted the person at the College. It was him. He came to my home a day later.
He had a manila colored file folder with him. He told me that Project Blue Blook was not closed down in 1969 but ran up to almost 1980. Some of the materials which were collected at the end of the run were not turned in. His manila folder.
In it were photos of “saucer nests”, round depressions in tall grass that were located in Northern California and were located on the ground beneath the spot where heavy UFO activity had been observed for some time and reported to Blue Book by a nearby military installation.
There were 3 tripod depressions within the larger round depression. There were 2 larger round depressions some distance apart.
They were radioactive well beyond normal background and displayed some phosphorescence in the night. He had color photos.
He also said that while driving his Blue Book van up towards Northern California and the reported landing site, as he got close he wittnessed something associated with UFOs called Cryptozoology.
A large Black Cat, a Puma or a Black Panther native to South America and out of place for Northern Cal, lept out of the forest at the side of the road and streaked across right in front of his truck.
If you can imagine a mountain foothill ridge with a wide flat spot that overlooks the valley down below, thats where these 2 saucer nests were located...
For some reason . . . your post reminded me of Garrison Keilor’s LAKE WOBEGON narrative this weekend . . . I know, he’s a clueless liberal . . . I was on a long drive home and I sometimes enjoy the humor.
Yes, very interesting. Not only was the big cat probably out of place, something may have spooked it. I think they are normally very, very reclusive.
About the swamp gas, I had always heard that it bounce around. I was deer hunting just before daylight (sitting in a tree in a light misting rain hoping my husband would come for me soon actually) in Brazoria County near West Columbia Texas. I saw a bright glowing light and I immediately thought someone else was in the woods driving around. Then the light came down and bounced up about 20 feet, came down in a arch, hit the ground again and bounced up out of sight. Someone had told me he saw the light (called Bailey's light after an early settler) when it bounced on fence posts along side the road.
Doesn’t sound like swamp gas, to me.
At some level and depending on type . . .
some such things seem to be essentially identical to poltergeist phenomena.
His will read "entered into the ground erect" not positive about the accessories. We lived just a few miles down the road and I heard the children who were burned up in the fire........... about 50 years after it happened. The woods were definitely spooky.
Interesting.
Thanks.
I have never heard of the Murphysboro Mud Monster! Tell me, I told about Bailey’s light, now it’s your turn.
Even former nuclear weapon 'watch officers' will joke about their jobs on occasion, but there isn't a similar wherewithal regarding those associated with reverse engineering hi-tech UFO related topics.
If one can't verify the principal argument, consider the dual.
bttt
Thanks for the spooky stories.
If they don’t exist, then there really is no observable reason for world league engineers and scientists who have worked in areas of high tech, reverse engineering research to become so paranoid and clam up whenever the topic of alien UFO or flying objects is seriously discussed. For those who have been exposed to such folks after they have worked in those environments, it is far easier to joke about nuclear weapons with former watch officers who charged with securing launch codes some 30 years ago than to glean even the least amount of information regarding UFOs from those who have been associated with that research.
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EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT POINTS AND OBSERVATION.
Quite true. And I hadn’t thought to put it that way before. Yet, I have observed the same thing. Quite true.
Not throwing cold water per se on such narratives. Who knows how many are true, or not.
However, I do suspect that Kentucky, at least, has an abundance of
great “Story Tellers.”
. . . in the robust, wonderful, classical sense.
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