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UFO believer: We're not the only ones
thonline ^ | May 31, 2009 | CRAIG D. REBER

Posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono

GALENA, Ill. -- Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" -- made popular by Bing Crosby -- sat on the top of U.S. music charts on Jan. 4, 1947, out of this world so to speak. Several months later, Roswell, N.M. would become the epicenter of all things out-of-this world.

Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. was 11 when he was awakened around 1 a.m. on a July morning in 1947, when his father, Jesse Marcel, rushed into the family home. What he showed his wife and son changed the world forever.

Marcel Jr., the author of "The Roswell Legacy," was one of several guest speakers at this weekend's Out of This World UFO Conference at Eagle Ridge Resort and Spa in Galena.

Marcel Sr. was a U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, a major, who was dispatched to collect debris from a crash at a ranch near Roswell.

"He realized this was something unique, not a radar target or an aircraft or anything that he had ever seen before," Marcel Jr. told his Jo Daviess County audience. "He knew what radar targets looked like."

Marcel brought the debris into Jesse Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Jr. began a 38-year military career in the U.S. Navy and went on to retire as a colonel in the National Guard. He works as a specialist in otolaryngology (ear, nose and throat medicine) at the Veterans Administration Hospital, Fort Harrison, Mont.

the house which was on the way from the ranch to the nearby air base. He wanted his family to see it. It was placed neatly on the kitchen floor.

"He said, 'Look at this. I think this is parts of a flying saucer,' or words to that effect," Marcel Jr. said. "I thought, 'What's a flying saucer?'"

The debris contained no electronic components, like vacuum tubes, resistors or condensers.

"There's a lot of foil-like debris, you can't really describe it," Marcel Jr. said. "It had a strange quality to it, weird stuff. It was like Mylar -- nothing like what we had in 1947 -- or what we have now. One of the beams had writing, resembling geometric symbols."

Marcel flew the debris to Fort Worth (Texas) Air Field where its commander, Gen. Roger Ramey examined it.

"The cover story started at that point," Marcel Jr. said. "The cover story was this was a radar target -- nothing more, which obviously was ludicrous."

Marcel Jr. recalled that after his father returned from Fort Worth, he told his family never to talk again about what had happened.

That's the way it was for many years until Stanton Friedman, a UFO investigator and nuclear physicist, interviewed Marcel Sr. in 1978 and got the story going from there.

Marcel Jr. said the incident changed his life.

"It actually made me more religious because it made me realize that our creator created a vast universe with other people out there -- so we're not the only ones," he said.

"It's maddening that the government has not released this information ...," he said. "They will in due time, and I hope in my lifetime because I would like to tell people I saw this stuff and I told you so."


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: jessemarcel; jessemarceljr; kooks; roswell; ufo
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To: dljordan

Thanks.

I love it when FREEPERS SPEAK UP FOR THE TRUTH

AS THEY THEMSELVES HAVE EXPERIENCED IT FIRST HAND.


61 posted on 06/01/2009 12:15:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: EAGLE7

WRONG.

The 11 year old boy; wounded Iraq Vet specialist surgeon MD did not lie then. He’s not lying now.

. . . in addition . . . nor is my relative lying nor a very long list of others.


62 posted on 06/01/2009 12:17:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: pburgh01
This is one of the most apt, accurate, perceptive and fitting posts I've ever read on an FR UFO thread about naysayers posting idiocies. THANKS TONS.

Have you studied ufology? Groom Lake? The MJ12 hoax, read anything by Stan Grodon, Muiltiverses. I figured as much. Swamp gas in desert New Mexico? What a thoughtful and snarky bit of.."I have to chime in with random mouth diarrhea in this thread"

[I did correct "diarrhea" spelling. I have trouble with that one, too.]

63 posted on 06/01/2009 12:22:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: muir_redwoods

“You should meet my inlaws.”

Love it.


64 posted on 06/01/2009 12:23:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Talisker

I don’t think such cluelessness is worth even a smirk, much less a grin.


65 posted on 06/01/2009 12:24:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Talisker

Glad he’s on our side. I couldn’t tell, either.

The statement is still a good one generally about naysayer’s attitudes.


66 posted on 06/01/2009 12:25:05 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dallas59

THEY certainly are DESTRUCTIVE.

And . . . in cahoots with the critters and their Dark Lord.


67 posted on 06/01/2009 12:25:48 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
WRONG.............

LOL, fighting the fight late tonight are we Quix?

68 posted on 06/01/2009 12:27:12 AM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: EAGLE7

Welllllllll my relative worked . . . essentially . . . there.

What he told me were not, mostly, per se, rumors. They were facts as he experienced them and was told them by the high ranking folks he worked with.


69 posted on 06/01/2009 12:27:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BlueStateBlues

If you’re NOT a naysayer,

welcome aboard!

Thanks for your good attitude and humor. Satire and even sarcasm in behalf of the truth are good things.


70 posted on 06/01/2009 12:30:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mkjessup

A nameless disinformation specialist, probably.


71 posted on 06/01/2009 12:30:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: EAGLE7; Las Vegas Dave; DCPatriot; JoeProBono
Your link is an unmitigated illogical, idiotic, stupid, clueless farce and readily demonstrated to be so.

1. The Mogal dummies were not used until 5 years AFTER Roswell.

2. We have a FREEPER who first hand experienced, observed the 'I' beam with the characters on them. He is NOT LYING when he notes that they did not look like the stupid flower designs at all.

3. Try posting facts vs disinfo vomit.

72 posted on 06/01/2009 12:35:33 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Talisker

Fascinating.

I assume the movement was very fast?

Thx


73 posted on 06/01/2009 12:36:26 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: pepperdog

Thanks for your first-hand observation. . . . OBSERVATION.

Most Naysayers have NO CAPACITY

to distinguish an observation from a drunken hallucination.

They seem to be severely cognitively challenged.


74 posted on 06/01/2009 12:38:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Talisker

I think Dr Hynek was the one who came up with “swamp gas”

when pressed in a press conference situation way back in Proj. Bluebook.

He later regretted ever having used the phrase and advocated government release of the truth.


75 posted on 06/01/2009 12:39:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: devere

What unmitigated cluelessness.


76 posted on 06/01/2009 12:41:37 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks.

He’s an authentic Christian;
He’s a real Patriot;
He’s a real battlefield; battle hardened; battle injured Iraq war Vet;
He’s a first hand UFO experiencer in terms of handling the real ROSWEL debris;
He’s a real conservative;
. . .


77 posted on 06/01/2009 12:43:15 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

78 posted on 06/01/2009 12:43:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks.

Ain’t it interestin . . .

the naysayers scream for hard tangible evidence

and then poo all over it when presented.

What integrity! What brilliance! What brutal honesty they have with themselves! /sarcasm.


79 posted on 06/01/2009 12:44:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Talisker

Jesse was 11 years old.

According to him. I figure he knew how old he was.


80 posted on 06/01/2009 12:45:45 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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