Posted on 06/18/2009 5:47:36 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
I would like to see the birth certificate too. But I just wish the matter were in better hands than a foreign-born dentist and I continually wonder why it is not!
1. I couldn't help laughing because Gibbs seemed to be saying that if something---say, a document like a birth certificate---was posted on the internet, it must be factual, true, and honest.
2. Of course, we all know---and I'm sure that Gibbs knows too--that if something is posted on the internet, the first thing we need to do is to look at it with the greatest caution and distrust.
For instance, we have all heard horror stories of people who have bought items on the internet and who have found out later the item that was advertised on the internet was not the item that they actually bought.
3. How about this: Let's say that the President of the highly-respected University Notre Dame posted the following statement on his website: "I have a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate for everyone to see, but I can't let anyone see it or touch it in person." >p> 4. I love Notre Dame University football, but my response would be: " Sorry, President of Notre Dame, but if you can't let the public see it and touch it, I don't believe that you really have Obama's long form birth certificate."
5. Press Secretary Gibbs says "It's on the internet". But which Obama birth certificate is actually on the internet? It certainly isn't the 1961 birth certificate, the year Obama claims he was born in Hawaii.
6. Fact: The Obama birth certificate on the "internet" is stamped "2007" on the back and not 1961, the year Obama claims is the year of his birth.
7. My followup question to Gibbs would have been: You are correct. It is on the internet. But why does Obama end up displaying an obvious 2007 Hawaii birth certificate? Why doesn't Obama display a birth certificate with a much earlier date? Did Obama lose his original birth certificate?
8. "Oh, yes. Mr. Gibbs. If you are so naive to believe that everything on the internet is true and should be trusted absolutely, I have some oceanfront property in Nevada that I am selling on the internet. Please check it out."
From “Dreams...” — page 26, last paragraph:
“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”
This paragraph exists in “Dreams from My Father.” It is proof that Obama’s birth certificate exists, that his grandmother had a copy, and that he’s seen it. So he knows what’s on it, and whatever it is — or isn’t — it’s the reason he is fighting its release so ferociously.
Undoubtedly, this knowledge provided the motivation for the ransacking of his grandmother Dunham’s apartment within hours of her death. He was looking for this document before it fell into the “wrong” hands.
http://www.theobamafile.com/obamalatest.htm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
this is in the washington times
murdered in broad daylight....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
this is in the washington times
murdered in broad daylight....
actually nighttime////sorry
They might audit Obama if we make some noise!
Orly Taitz is a qualified attorney and she is putting it into action. And I’m sure that she can use all of the help that she can get.
I thought Gary Kreep had taken over these cases. This cause is very important, and I kept seeing Orly make tons of legal, grammatical and typo errors.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2274992/replies?c=4
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2274992/replies?c=37
No, there are a number of similar cases throughout the country challenging Obama’s natural born citizenship. Of course, with different attorneys.
Orly’s cases are in the hands of Kreep, I understand and Phil Berg, the Clinton operative with a number of the cases, is now suing her...
Here’s a choice paragraph I read on CNN’s Crime page (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/11/museum.shooting.suspect.two/index.html)regarding Neo-Nazi, James von Brunn,
“Previous online postings attributed to James von Brunn promoted the claim that Obama has no valid U.S. birth certificate, a debunked theory rejected by U.S. courts and refuted by a certified copy of his birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health”
A November 2008 post that appeared under von Brunn’s name declared, “There is no Obama documentation — no records — no paper trail — none — this is no accident. It is being done on purpose with Media help — but to serve whom & why???”
Guess what, CNN? There are tens of millions asking the same questions.
The “certified copy of his birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health” is, of course, that same f**king forgery that had a birthday last week. That Obama released a certified copy of anything has been thoroughly “debunked,” and no court has ever “rejected” the fact that lots of Obama’s documentation are missing or being withheld. I don’t need to run down the list: everyone should know it by heart.
who AG Eric Holder spoke about along with the Tillman murderer and the “guy” who killed one recruiter and wounded another. and used in a speech the other day:
Philip Berg was trying to take Obama to court over his possible lack of natural born citizenship. Berg suing Taitz?
The practice of issueing a COLB to ANYONE in Hawaii stopped in 1972. When Obama was born his mother applied for his 4 days after his birth, which is how long it took to get released from the hospital and make the flight to her parents house to help with the baby. Obama Sr had already deserted her. I have listened to the tape and the video several times, nowhere does it say he was born anywhere other than in the Hospital in Kenya. What you state is a lie in my opinion, but hey, prove me wrong, provide a link for us all to review that states what you state. At 2 years old, he was adopted by Lolo Sotero and his name legally changed (yes, they have the document) to Barry Sotero, and he became an Indonesian Citizen, renouncing his Kenyan (British Soverign), and supposed US citizenship (No reciprocal agreements for Dual Citizenship in 1961), he attended school in Indonesia as a citizen and a muslim, he then moved to Hawaii at 10 years old, and attended private school (still indonesian), then went to Occidental College as a foreign student and recieved a Fullbright Scolarship (only available for foreign students), then transferred to Harvard, and used an Old name Barrak Hussien Obama Jr, suggested by a fellow student (admitted on tape and stated in his own book), he became an Illinois State Senator illegally (was never vetted), and also a US Senator from Illinois (also never vetted), because everyone ASSUMED he was a Harvard Grad, and Illinois State Senator...I mean.. SOMEONE must have vetted him...in fact, nobody has. Now, he is spending upwards of 1 million dollars (where did that money come from? Campaign money (confirmed), with 9 lawfirms to fight FOIA attempts to open his birth certificate (if he is golden, why not just show it and be done with it), to open his school records (if he is legit, why hid it), and all information that would legitimize him as a Natural Born US Citizen...
The Answer? I think, is that he would be Imprisoned, or Jailed, and it would throw the country into a tizzy. So the interests who paid to put him there (Soros), want him to stay.
Orly Taits, has facts on her side, ones that people in power do not want to hear offically, because then, they have to deal with them. If they do not offically hear them, they do not have to deal with them.
They can discredit her, or defame her, or ignore her, whatever works, problem is, many more than will sign her list of 400,000 believe her, why won’t they sign? They get on a list that can hurt them politically, or on their job, or get listed with the IRS, any of many ills that the far left use to stop people...Fear mongering? You bet, those who have nothing to lose are the loudest, the bravest are those who have much to lose, and speak out anyway.
Until many of those who have much to lose, speak out anyway, Obama will get away with this ruse.
But then, its just my opinion.
Up to $1 million and counting.
“Someone should investigate whether Obama is using campaign donations to pay legal fees to keep his birth certificate hidden”
Did you miss the memo?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2232359/posts
Ditto that for me!
“What you state is a lie in my opinion, but hey, prove me wrong,”
If you read closely- I am asking for the real BC.
Yes, I know. I’m sorry about that. I misread the comments.
Obviously not. She was born in the Soviet Union and grew up there, before moving to Israel and then the US. (I'm sure she readily admits that she herself isn't constitutionally eligible to be president.)
But her background in a totalitarian dictatorship gives her a keen "nose" for sniffing out government abuse of the rule of law and statist repression and malfeasance here in the US. She, like other immigrants from many nations, is driven by the goal of preventing her adopted country from descending into the barbarism of her native country.
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