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Chubby people live longest: Japan study
breitbart ^ | 6/19/09 | ap

Posted on 06/19/2009 10:15:04 AM PDT by Nachum

Health experts have long warned of the risk of obesity, but a new Japanese study warns that being very skinny is even more dangerous, and that slightly chubby people live longer. People who are a little overweight at age 40 live six to seven years longer than very thin people, whose average life expectancy was shorter by some five years than that of obese people, the study found.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: chubby; live; longest; people
Huh. My BMI is just about 23. Guess I'll go eat some Chili Fries...
1 posted on 06/19/2009 10:15:05 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Jenny Craig will be sorry to hear this.


2 posted on 06/19/2009 10:16:14 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Nachum

funny you should post this...I mentioned earlier in another post that low thyroid activity (which can explain chubbiness) is thought to extend life. Lower one’s metabolism = longer life. Thinner people tend to have high metabolic rates which might equate to shorter life. Animals with high metabolic rates tend to live shorter lives unlike animals with low metabolic rates.


3 posted on 06/19/2009 10:18:19 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Nachum

Wow! Then I should live forever. Pass me some more nachos, Marsha!


4 posted on 06/19/2009 10:20:21 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: Nachum

This completely contradicts the low daily calorie a day consumption and a longer life data. I am going to have to go with this chubby is best study :-D.


5 posted on 06/19/2009 10:20:56 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Seruzawa

I might be immortal!


6 posted on 06/19/2009 10:20:58 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Nachum
As the wag said: Warning living is hazardous to your health.”
7 posted on 06/19/2009 10:21:37 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Nachum

I’ve often observed that elderly folks who have good appetites and eat quite a bit (and consequently are a little “chubby”) often seem to be healthier and more vital than skinny elderly folks who eat little.


8 posted on 06/19/2009 10:23:54 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Nachum

Wow, first I find that smoking is good for me http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2274891/posts and now this?


9 posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:03 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Nachum

A little chubby maybe, but lardbutts no. Also, what good is living if you can’t get it up, or do other things you want because you are too freakin heavy?

Skinny is for the birds though.


10 posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:16 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Nachum

Paid for by a Chub from the Grant Group!


11 posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:32 AM PDT by Jagman
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To: Nachum
People who are a little overweight at age 40 live six to seven years longer than very thin people, whose average life expectancy was shorter by some five years than that of obese people, the study found.

When you get cancer and start to waste away, sometimes it may be better to have something that you CAN afford to lose.

12 posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Nachum; a fool in paradise

13 posted on 06/19/2009 10:26:24 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Nachum
Lab studies show that mammals that get a reduced calorie diet actually live about 30 percent longer. So I doubt being heavy is going to help out very many people.

I worked hard to get down to a 23 BMI from one in the mid 30s. No way am I going to let myself get overweight again.
14 posted on 06/19/2009 10:27:01 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Nachum

Eat healthy

Stay Fit

Die Anyway...


15 posted on 06/19/2009 10:27:14 AM PDT by Mugwump
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To: Slings and Arrows

Did somebody say "LUNCH"?

16 posted on 06/19/2009 10:27:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Revolting cat!
It works!


17 posted on 06/19/2009 10:30:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Nachum
The baseline?.............


18 posted on 06/19/2009 10:36:03 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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To: Nachum

Maybe so if you get chubby from eating lots of raw fish and seafood high in Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids.

Fat people in the states get fat from donuts and crap, not from sushi, sashimi and fish cakes.


19 posted on 06/19/2009 10:36:05 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Nachum
Considering our current obesity mass hysteria, one would think that such research would be done in USA, yet we had to wait for Japanese scientist to check the obvious matters first. Any phenomenon going against the prevailing dogma in a given environment becomes invisible to the science or mass media in that environment. US scientists or journals or news media, simply don't see things that ought not to be according to laws du jour in their virtual reality. 'Chubby is good for you' doesn't exist in US matrix.

What is even more interesting is how little attention this story, which is great news in fact, has got so far -- only 5 news stories on Google news. It makes it quite obvious which way propaganda winds are blowing here.

20 posted on 06/19/2009 10:38:51 AM PDT by nightlight7
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To: Nachum
I think this article is fairly misleading. They are talking about some serious skinniness, and what they are calling chubby many would call slender.

The study divided people into four weight classes at age 40 according to their body mass index, or BMI, calculated by dividing a person's weight in kilograms by their squared height in metres.

The normal range is 18.5 to 25, with thinness defined as under 18.5. A BMI of 25 to 30 was classed as slightly overweight and an index above 30 as obese.

I'm 6' 2" and 180 lbs., and no one would call me chubby, but my BMI comes out to 23.1, the upper half of their normal. If I drop ten pounds I'm looking very slender.

That 18.5 BMI must be what most would call skin and bones. And this seems to conflict with the calorie restricters who are pretty skinny and believe calorie restriction prolongs life.

21 posted on 06/19/2009 10:41:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Seruzawa

well I have love handles etc.-—but I am not totally OBEAST—so I guess I am OK


22 posted on 06/19/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by BeerLover NYC
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To: Nachum

Do they die sooner because they are very thin or are they very thin because they have a health problem?


23 posted on 06/19/2009 10:49:50 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Nachum
I believe my calculation is correct, and for a person 6' 2" tall to have a BMI of 18.5, that person would weigh only 144 lbs. That is skin and bones, or worse.

A lot a skinny people would still be above their threshold for "skinny".

24 posted on 06/19/2009 10:56:49 AM PDT by Will88
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To: BeerLover NYC

Welcome to FR!


25 posted on 06/19/2009 11:17:41 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Nachum
I'll drink to that !!! Photobucket
26 posted on 06/19/2009 11:17:57 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Nachum
I put little faith in this study since no documentation or data is referenced. BMI is a *general* guideline- it only addresses the ratio of weight to height and is prone to error because it does not account for body fat percentage.

For example my BMI is 25.33, which falls into the high end of normal or low end of slightly overweight, but in reality my body fat percentage is much lower than average at only 8% ("normal" is around 15%). I am definitely not slightly overweight and most people describe me as "athletic" or "thin".

27 posted on 06/19/2009 11:28:39 AM PDT by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: HerrBlucher
A little chubby maybe, but lardbutts no.

Not really -- the lowest 25% lived much shorter than any of the upper three quartiles. The top quartile (obese) lived just slightly shorter than the next highest quartile (chubby) who were the longest living quartile. The 'normal' quartile lived virtually the same as 'obese' quartile (e.g. chubby: 41.64, normal:39.94 vs obese:39.41, slim:34.54 years beyond 40 for men). The only group that really stood out were the slim quartile who live substantially shorter than the other three quartiles.


The results showed that men of regular weight (with a BMI of between 18.5 and 25) at age 40 live for an additional average of 39.94 years, while those who are overweight (BMI of between 25 and 30) at age 40 live for a further 41.64 years. Women of regular weight live on average for a further 47.97 years, compared with overweight women—who live another 48.05 years, according to the study.

Obese men and women (BMI of 30 or more) live a further 39.41 and 46.02 years, respectively. But thin men (BMI of less than 18.5) are on average expected to live 34.54 more years, and thin women another 41.79 years, the study showed.



28 posted on 06/19/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by nightlight7
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To: Nachum

Lots of good tidbits in this thread. As a chubby male, this is good news. I also happen to “suffer” from hypothyroidism, and the medication actually catalyzed weight loss to the tune of almost 40 lbs.

I believe that the slower our metabolism is pegged, the longer we’ll live is a great theory. It makes biological sense, and maybe it’s an evolutionary trait that is desirable? Think about it... if a society of people are chubby but, as another poster pointed out, consume primarily fat from protein like fish and rice, their overall health is perfect.

Despite a higher-than-normal BMI, I have a lower BP than most men 100 lbs. lighter than me, are more flexible than men 100 lbs. lighter than me, and I have positive markers across the board for heart disease and diabetes. It comes down to genetics and proper teaching of eating habits to our offspring. Our lifestyles affect our waistlines, but that doesn’t mean we have to eat junk all the time.

Our problem isn’t how much we eat, it’s the quality of our food!


29 posted on 06/19/2009 11:35:07 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: HerrBlucher

I was the original model for the “Stick Man”. Tell me about how being skinny s**ks...


30 posted on 06/19/2009 2:47:19 PM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass resistance.)
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To: a fool in paradise; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
Immortality is mine!


31 posted on 06/19/2009 4:15:09 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("If Dick Cheney is Darth Vader, then Barack Obama is Jar-Jar Binks!")
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To: neverdem

Another liberal myth bites the dust.


32 posted on 06/19/2009 8:03:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (...those who make non-violent revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- JFK (Iran))
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To: Nachum
Obese does not equal "slightly chubby"
33 posted on 06/19/2009 8:07:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Nachum

Ya hear that, Ann Coulter? Have a cheeseburger, already!


34 posted on 06/19/2009 8:23:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: GOPJ

thanks, bfl


35 posted on 06/19/2009 9:27:22 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Nachum
Health experts have long warned of the risk of obesity...

Liberal "health experts" worship the body. They're the same people who push global warming - think every man's butt is what women care about - and want women to have the build of teenage boys. How could it not have been a lie?

36 posted on 06/20/2009 7:30:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (...those who make non-violent revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- JFK (Iran))
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To: Nachum

bump to the top


37 posted on 06/20/2009 8:22:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (Chubby people live longer - by years! Hey food police - we're putting a tax on tofu and sprouts!)
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To: TheWasteLand
"I’ve often observed that elderly folks who have good appetites and eat quite a bit (and consequently are a little “chubby”) often seem to be healthier and more vital than skinny elderly folks who eat little."

This might explain why all those old Czech farmers in south-central Minnesota lived to be in their 90's. Sauerkraut, pork, potato dumplings, and lard.

38 posted on 06/20/2009 8:27:03 PM PDT by redhead (Obama: Lame Duck in 2010. Check out the Half-baked Sourdough! (shameless blog plug!))
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Sort of glad to hear about the low thyroid advantage. I don’t like being a low thyroid, but perhaps I will outlive you all! Ha ha!

I wonder if taking my thyroid supplements negates the benefits. . .


39 posted on 06/20/2009 9:48:18 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: rarestia

“Despite a higher-than-normal BMI, I have a lower BP than most men 100 lbs. lighter than me, are more flexible than men 100 lbs. lighter than me, and I have positive markers across the board for heart disease and diabetes.”

Interesting, my situation, too. My blood sugar is great, my triglycerides good, my blood pressure is normal, my cholesterol is 201 but heavy on the “good” cholesterol, I’m very flexible, my skin is clear, my energy level is very good. I almost never get sick at all. Several kids at home, and if I do catch what is going around, I get about a 10% dose and recover so quickly, usually.

And I eat a doughnut about five times a year! I’ve never eaten a whole pizza, a whole bag of chips, a whole container of ice cream, a whole package of cookies - any of the stereotypical things high BMIs are accused of, and I suppose, are often guilty of.

People are different, bottom line.


40 posted on 06/20/2009 9:53:49 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: GOP Poet

Not really. The calorie restricted diets used in life extension studies aren’t just like a few calories less than normal.

They’re like way, way, way less than normal.


41 posted on 06/20/2009 9:54:55 PM PDT by djf (Man up!! Don't be a FReeloader!! Make a donation today!)
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To: Marie2
People are different, bottom line.

Simplicity makes the best statement!

Not just that, but people believe that if they don't gain weight, they can eat what they want. My brother is my polar opposite with weight. He eats more junk than should be permitted of a 20-something, but he doesn't gain weight. I don't touch the nasty stuff, eat healthy and well and exercise, and I can't shed the stuff fast enough. Def. speaks to the wonder of the human body. I'd hate to see my brother's cholesterol.

42 posted on 06/22/2009 4:27:00 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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