Posted on 06/28/2009 5:17:15 AM PDT by Fennie
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I thought it was in Job, my favorite New Testement book. (snicker)
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Yep -- we get some really thoughtful commenters here...
Luke 16:
27”And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house—
28for I have five brothers—in order that he may (G)warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29”But Abraham said, ‘They have (H)Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30”But he said, ‘No, (I)father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’
31”But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Wait. Didn’t I see this on Leonard Nimoy’s “In Search Of” in the early 1980s?
If Noah’s Ark is found on this mountain I believe the Koran is proven wrong. And if the Ark of the Covenant is discovered in Ethiopia to be real then the Koran is proven wrong as well. The Holy War continues and the Christians WILL triumph. God bless us all.
Are those Noah’s kids? Which one’s Ham?
Still, perhaps God has a hand in all of this. At the University of Erzurum (located 150 miles W of Mt. Ararat), an Islamic scholar told Robin Simmons, one ark explorer: "The Ark is a bomb in the world!" He explained that there is widespread belief in the region that the revelation of the Ark will be a sign that Mohammed is returning to purge the earth of all the heretics in a holy war. Then all true believers will go to heaven in a restored Golden Ark. Perhaps we should all be glad that the Ark has not been more "discovered" than it has. The truth is out there for those who earnestly want to search for it and find it. So it often seems to be God's way.
What makes any one with any knowledge of wood at all think there is any trace of the ark left after all this time? Let's say some bits and pieces are still there, a few pegs(no nails)and some wood bits, maybe petrified, how will they determine these scraps belonged to the Ark?
My scenario for the Ark? 150 years after the flood some poor farmer was searching for firewood and came upon the remains of a boat where one shouldn't be, not being familiar with the story of the flood, he cut it up and took it home and used it to cook meals and heat his hut. Lasted him for 3 or 4 winters.
Hey, my version of what happened to it is just as plausible as thinking anything is left of it after all this time!
In the Bible, the Jews were lost in the desert for 40 years.
They kept walking in a circle around the same mountain, failing to notice it was always the ‘same’ mountain.
The mountain was not the point of the story.
In the Bible, Noah built the Ark to protect his family and the animals from drowning.
The point of the story was not the Ark itself. Why do we search so intensely for the ARK, yet ignore the point of the story?
Because the Bible isn't just Aesop's Fables.
A lib/dem politician said that during a presidential run (I forget which). I think Harrius was mocking that pol.
I agree with you to a point. Sometimes archaeological proofs get people’s attention long enough for them to hear the message.
Turkey is mostly Islamic and would not be agreeable to anything that would be remotely be considered ‘Jewish’ or ‘Christian’.
They would probably consider the Arks discovery more supportive of Jewish/Christtian theology than Islamic theology and therefore a threat to their culture.
During the cold war, Russia was very concerned about people being on those mountains because they (Russia) had a major military site located on the other side.
There was pressure from Russia on Turkey to keep people off the mountain.
In Fact, during an overflight by U.S. intelligence, photos were taken of something large near the top of the mountain.
There is another site on ‘the mountains of Ararat’ being endorsed by Anchorstone.org as being the site of the Arks landing. That site is accompanied by large ‘Drogue’ or anchor stones with some of the stones being marked with crosses.
There is a history in the second area of that being known as the location where Noah and his family settled after the Ark landed.
That is the only way I can explain myself. I hope that the Shroud of Turin is real just because it would please me to know that something like that was kept since Jesus Christ was wrapped in it. I do not in any way NEED for the Shroud to be real to believe in Jesus and His Crucifixion.
And I agree with you to a point. To find the remains of biblical archeological sites lends credibility for those who doubt. To find a chalice or piece of wood the origin of which will always be arguable is of limited value. The Shroud of Turin is an example.
God spoke through a burning bush and a donkey. I tend not to limit how he gets someones attention. If it only changes one mind, the angels will rejoice with the Shepherd.
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