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Federal Judge to hear Obama Birth Certificate on the Merits!
Emails ^ | JULY 13TH, 2009 | Alan Peters

Posted on 07/13/2009 8:48:39 PM PDT by FARS

Obama eligibility case will be heard on the merits !! Please distribute everywhere.

At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter reportedly said the following: 1. There will be a trial. 2. It will be heard on the merits. 3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues. 4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority. 5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC. 6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at antimullah.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: article2section1; bc; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; british; certifigate; colb; constitution; davidcarter; eligibility; fraud; goodbyeobama; ineligible; judge; kenya; obama; obamafiles; obamanoncitizenissue; ods; santaana; trialonmerits; usurper
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To: Vendome

Dunno. But if the Technology Czar is behind it all for his boss, he’s NOT doing a good job of it.


821 posted on 07/18/2009 1:50:21 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

D-Rez


822 posted on 07/18/2009 6:06:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Plummz
Nope the ERA FAILED. There is no constitutional provision for "gender equality" in citizenship law... the particular citizenship statute is probably unconstitutional because it turns the child's citizenship rights on the gender of the parent that was the US Citizen--different rights for the child of a U S Citizen mother than a US Citizen father.

The equal protection clause argument was that the ERA was not necessary for that reason--still can't turn a statute on gender because it deprives the other gender of equal protection.

That case got to the U S Supreme Court on precisely this statute. The case was on the other side--the child of a father citizen. So it's not in point on the question presented here.

The child of the father citizen argued that it was not constitutional for the statute to deny him citizenship because if it had been his mother who was a citizen, he might have received citizenship under the statute.

The Court held no citizenship for the child of the father citizen which would have been the result if the statute was not constitutional because of the unconstitutional classification. The majority opinion is fuzz.

There was an extensive scholarly dissent (I forget from who) which said that instead of simply upholding the denial of citizenship to the father citizen's child, the court should have simply ruled the entire statute unconstitutional which it appears to be on its face. Subsequently there is a Cornell law review article quoted or copied into the Long Thread on this topic explaining why the dissent sets forth the law.

On the facts here, it no longer makes any difference because the question of "wedlock" under the statute gets resolved, at least in my view, by the general case law that would find them married for purposes of the statute whether there was a civil event or not.

It further makes no difference because bare citizenship with respect to a child born outside the county is not the issue in any event--it still doesn't free the child from the sovereignty at birth of another government and thus the child isn't a natural born citizen.

823 posted on 07/18/2009 8:42:09 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
A lot more scrubbing can take place in the next 60 days!

There is an obvious and active campaign to scrub Obama birth information off the Internet -- REAL TIME, RIGHT NOW.

Please archive these changes, and any others -- then re-post -- these references may be vitally important in the near future as legal filings regarding Obama's eligibility continue, with Judge Carter, or with other pending cases.

Re-post here or on the long thread. Here's the link to the long thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=8252#8252

824 posted on 07/18/2009 8:43:51 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I heard the judge in CA (the marine) chickened out and punted. Is this true?


825 posted on 07/18/2009 11:15:20 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Frantzie; hoosiermama; BP2; Polarik; NoGrayZone; nothinglefttolose; cripplecreek; ...
I heard the judge in CA (the marine) chickened out and punted. Is this true?
826 posted on 07/18/2009 11:31:32 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

NOt to my knowledge...He told Orley to get her paper work in order...but that’s not chickening out....Starwise might know more.


827 posted on 07/18/2009 11:40:37 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: FARS

There was a story this week about a soldier who said he shouldn’t have to go to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama is not qualified to be President and, therefore, Commander in Chief. Almost immediately, the Army revoked the soldiers’ orders. Of course, we only heard brief snippets of the story on the MSM. What happens now? Can any soldier, who objects on the same grounds, get his orders revoked too?


828 posted on 07/18/2009 11:47:34 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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To: hoosiermama

Huh? Did he give her a recess? Continuance? Gave her more time? Thanks.

She really needs an experienced trial lawyer to help her.


829 posted on 07/18/2009 11:54:31 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT; All

The soldier Major Cook had his orders rescinded (as apparently can happen if requested) but was fired (under DOD pressure) from his civilian conract positon in Afghanistan.

Technically, since there was no defence offered in court, any soldier can claim the same thing. If they are ready to be court-martialled and drummed out of the service and lose any pension etc.

We have to see what happens.

The Marines are upset that in Afghanistan they have been ordered NOT TO SHOOT back if the Taleban shoot at them to avoid hitting any civilians !!!!!!!!!!! The order making them sitting ducks comes from Obama.

This may in part be the reason Judge Carter, a combat Marine himself has agreed to take a judicial look at Obama’s qualifications to be president.


830 posted on 07/18/2009 12:03:57 PM PDT by FARS (Be happy, be well)
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To: FARS
MARK YOUR CALENDAR!

TUESDAY, JULY 21 - 9:00PM EASTERN:

MAJOR STEFAN COOK WILL BE ON THE ANDREA SHAE KING SHOW!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ASKShow/2009/07/16/The-Andrea-Shea-King-Show

831 posted on 07/18/2009 12:36:54 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: David

That doesn’t apply to family law...you’re basically arguing there’s a federal right to same-sex marriage... there just isn’t. The child can argue equal protection vis-a-vis her/his brother/sister, but the equal protection wouldn’t apply on the question in these scenarios because it’s not the equal protection of the aprents at issue.


832 posted on 07/18/2009 12:46:12 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: bortog

The information about the twins is at this post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2291996/posts?page=815


833 posted on 07/18/2009 1:55:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Danae

From post 388 I noticed in Orly’s motion requests for disclosure from the FBI on anything they’ve got on Zero.

Also:

“All documents and proof, including but not limited to documents showing the names and contact information for investigators or other witnesses, including but not limited to clerks and custodians of records, relating to or touching upon the investigations allegedly performed and findings on the information forwarded to the FBI about Defendant Barack Hussein Obama by the office of US Senator Lamar Alexander from Tennessee,”

So is this a charge of conspiracy as well? Likewise Orly acquired the SS#’s etc, evidence of fraud sent to AG Eric Holder with no response...


834 posted on 07/18/2009 7:39:13 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: FARS

bump


835 posted on 07/19/2009 12:07:50 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Frantzie; All

He gave the Obama people (temporarily the Assistant US Attorneys) a 60-day deadline to respond to the subpoenas they rejected as having been improperly served by Orly Taitz after he told them to consider themselves served there and then in his courtroom and would not entertain a procedural block of the case going forward.


836 posted on 07/19/2009 12:25:39 AM PDT by FARS (Be happy, be well)
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To: danamco
There are gate keepers at the White House who shield the PINO to be served!!!

Of course there are. That's why a real lawyer would hire a reputable, professional service to get the job done rather then send an inexperienced volunteer.

To think that handing papers over to a "male Mail clerk", no name, no signature would be accepted as "service" is laughable.

837 posted on 07/19/2009 9:34:16 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Polarik
Besides copying what Factcheck wrote, they, of course, refer back to them for proof: "Those who have actually touched and examined the original certificate have verified and documented that it bears all the elements of a valid certificate of live birth."

I call this trackback to Factcheck, the Factcheck circle-jerk. Everybody does it.

What about "World Net Daily"?

A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

838 posted on 07/19/2009 9:43:18 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: FARS

Many thanks for the update. ;-)


839 posted on 07/19/2009 11:53:49 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Fred Nerks

The Kennedys were big supporters of AASF. I wonder if this is why the Kennedys backed Obama so much. Their efforts brought the old man to America.


840 posted on 07/19/2009 12:02:46 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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