It's Official! Hawaii never issued Obama's 2007 Certification of Live Birth

The Greater Evil ^ | 07/14/2009 | Polarik

[Greenperson]

Isn’t it interesting that the DOH people answered Danae’s questions over the phone? If her mother made the request for the COLB, then why would they research the production of it for someone else? Danae isn’t her mother. Danae isn’t the person who made the request. Besides which, how do they know who they’re talking to over the telephone? It could be anyone professing to be Danae. If we believe Danae, they answered her over the phone concerning the date that her COLB was requested. Therefore, they do have this information on file and it’s not “private,” if they give the information out to a person who simply calls and asks for it.

On the second page of comments, sombody posted images of Danae’s COLB and what is supposedly Obama’s. Yet the date on Danae’s is 3/2007 and the date on the other one is June 2008. Neither matches Obama’s posted COLB, unless I’m mistaken. What’s up, if you know?

[dandiegirl]

Bo is either not born in the USA or he has a different father than the one the he “wrote” the book about. That would be very embarrasing for him. It could say that he is white or that he is a Muslim. Whatever it is, it must be extremely damaging. I think it will come to light sooner or later. It could be the media story of the century for whomever breaks it.

[Fred Nerks]

The two PARTIAL COLB images you posted - the top one is from Danae - but the bottom one is date stamped June 30, 2003 (or 2008?)

you have identified the bottom image incorrectly, I think.

[Cacique]

btt

[Blu By U]

Thanks for the link... I’m listening.. Did I hear her right? Dr. Taitz stated that Obama has 39 different SS#’s and one is 119 years old. Wait till that comes out in court.

119 year old person... He had to been stealing some old persons retirement money along time ago. Oh my..

[dfwddr]

That Maj. also happens to be a FReeper.

[guitarplayer1953]

How does anyone know that? I don’t think anyone uses their real name of FR.

[Fred Nerks]

HERE HE BE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~roaddog727/index?U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Ffocus%2Fchat%2F2292609%2Fposts%3Fpage%3D143

[Polarik]

I was told there are 3 different stamping machines in use,one for Mail ordered copies, another for internet ordered copies, and one at the front desk. I am told that there are times that hundreds of copies might be made in a day.

You're confusing having different stations working on these orders with having different machines. You can determine HOW it was stamped, though, whether by machine or by hand, and they may use the hand stamp for front desk orders because of the low volume of requests, as compared to mail-order and Internet requests. However, if the electronic machine is busy, they can go over to another station and use their hand stamp.

But you can't look at the stamps and say, "This one was done by mail-order and this one was done by Internet order."

[Polarik]

The Professor was most likely using the AP's take on Chiyome Fukino's Oct. 31 announcement, that Hawaii has Obama's birth certificate on record.

Fukino never said Obama was born in Hawaii, and if he had, then that was the time to announce it.

But, leave it to the ultra-Leftist AP to say that "Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii."

And, despite repeated requests, they have not printed a retraction.

[Polarik]

First of all, they are side by side. Mine is in a larger image than Danae’s, and that probably explains your top/bottom assessment.

The one I have next to Danae’s COLB is Michele’s 2008 COLB produced on June 30, 2008.

I thought it was ironic that anyone else would fold theirs in the same way and scan it. I pointed out in my posting that I had folded the COLB as she did, but for much different reasons.

Do you see the ruler at the bottom of my image?

I stated in my post that I made this for size calibration purposes.

[Fred Nerks]

I was referring to the two images posted by BP2 - where he identifies the image date stamped June 30 as being the Obama image, which clearly it is not...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2292609/posts?page=97#97

Which you have pointed out belongs to Michele.

[BP2]

Yes, sorry. Trying to follow about 20 threads simultaneously ... on Post 97 above, it seems that I mislabeled "Michele's" COLB, thinking it was a 2008 version of Obama's.

On post 16 above, Danae posted:

This is a partial photo of my own COLB from Hawaii. It was ordered in 2000 after I had my wallet and all my ID stolen.
I hope this helps.

On post 86, Polarik posted:

Wow! Is this wierd or what? Take a look at the scan image I made on Sunday to calibrate my images measurements.

I grabbed Polarik’s image, rotated it 180° for comparison.

I ASSUMED it was a 2008 copy of Obama’s COLB that Polarik had acquired in some manner.

However, it seems to belong to “Michele”, which it seems Polarik has a hard copy of and has been using for his comparison and calibration purposes.

Sorry for the confusion. You know what happens when we ASSUME...

[BP2]

It used to say. "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

Click to enlarge:

[Danae]

Yea actually you can. The only Machine Stamper they have that does the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp is in the By Mail order room. I was told they only had one stamp like that, and thats where it is.

[BP2]

So, to recap — ALL since approximately July 1, 2009:

— the entire “Fight the Smears” website has been removed from the Internet, and the archive of the website has been removed at the request of the owners from Archive.org:
Current website: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate (removed OFF the internet)
Archive.org cache: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate (removed by owner request)
Archive (from Google Cache): http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:e8a9IzE5fSsJ:fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate+fight+the+smears&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

— the DHHL has removed from their website the “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands” pamphlet AND changed their website to reflect that they NOW accept the Certification of Live Birth (the ONLY document Mr. Obama has come forward with to show his birthplace. See more on that story here: Hawaii upgrades ‘certification of live birth’ (requirement):
Current website: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl
Archive.org: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl (removed)
The “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula” pamphlet: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%20Ka%20Aina%20Hoopulapula.pdf (removed)
The “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula” pamphlet “View as HTML” archive (Google): http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Veru1NU4Zf0J:hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%2520Ka%2520Aina%2520Hoopulapula.pdf+Loaa+Ka+Aina+Hoopulapula&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

— the Kapi’olani Medical Center website has removed the letter where Mr. Obama clearly says he was born at the Kapi’olani Medical Center:
Current website: http://www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx?id=1728 (Obama letter removed)
on Archive.org: http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:GkVMYxQ7030J:www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx%3Fid%3D1728+site:www.kapiolanigift.org+obama&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Coincidence?

[FlashBack]

You know nothing is coincidence with ‘The One’.

[CodeToad]

Nothing would make my year, and the next 4, to find Obama was not eligible. I guess this becomes one Hell of a Constitutional crisis in that does that negate the entire election and does McInsaine or Biden take office or is there a special election.

[MHGinTN]

What you have noted is exactly why the obamanoid goonsquad tries over and oveer to get Polarik to reveal exactly whom he is and where he lives. They would attack him personally quicker than a goose snaps up a Junebug! The criminal enterprise demcorats are ruthless bastards, make no mistake. Power is at stake so democrats believe any means rae valid to retain their power.

[CodeToad]

Your COLB image always helps as it shows others what a legit COLB looks like. Thanks for posting it.