Dirty hands shall reap the whirlwind ..
Posted on 07/29/2009 10:42:06 PM PDT by MissTickly
This is in follow-up to my post on Tuesday: "The Day I asked a question and got the MOTHER of all answers"
The implications of the following account is that the President's REAL NAME did not appear on any ballot, in any state.
That's just one of MANY implications. Let me preface by saying an AMENDED birth record could indicate that the President was adopted by either Lolo Soetoro and/or His grandparents, the Dunhams.
My story:
I have serious reasons to believe that Janice Okubo and/or Director Fukino, Department of Health in Hawaii are under duress. Something is preventing Director Fukino from making statements that she has the statutory authority to make.
And my story coincides with the recent revelation that the President is a Natural Born Citizen and born in Hawaii, all along.
On Monday, on a whim I decided to try my hand at a question for Ms. Okubo, Communications Director for the Department that holds the President’s vital records.
In a nutshell, this is what I asked her:
–Ms. Okubo–
If the Director made this statement:
““Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures… ”
…she has the statutory authority to answer this question:
“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”
Please reply with her answer.
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You see, they have the same statutory authority over an Amended Original Birth Certificate that they have over an (unamended) Original Birth Certificate.
No one has to attest to an Amended Original Birth Certificate’s existence. By virtue of STATUTORY AUTHORITY she can make this statement, AND she clearly says so.
But, to my surprise, at 11:47 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2009 I got the press release in answer to my question with the recent revelations and now the words ‘VITAL RECORDS’ are referenced.
Now, taken at face value, the press release seems to affirm the question I asked, but I wanted clarity. So I asked specifically if the Director could make a statement that she has the STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO MAKE:
“As Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, I have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
But I got this in return: “The director has nothing further to add to her statements.”
More than once. I even asked if she can make the statement if she was compelled to. Nothing.
I let Ms. Okubo know that I fear something is preventing them from making statements they have the authority to make. And told her I was compelled to tell someone.
Not that anyone will care, but I have alerted the media in detail.
I have the emails to corroborate.
I am VERY concerned.
Yes, and I support Sarah Palin. I support ALL women with integrity and strength. I voted for her and i voted for Hillary in the primary.
“Gee.....you are a LIBERAL/FEMINIST....how nice.”
Soooooooo, you don’t care what women STAND for, just so long as they DON’T stand when they pish? Narrow thinking.
NO, I said I support all women with INTEGRITY and strength.
For example: if Palin had said that she thought abortion should be legislated, I MAY not have voted for her. But her political stance was that it should be left to the will of the people. I like that. Furthermore, she put her money where her mouth is and little Trig is the proof that Palin has INTEGRITY.
If I can get that from someone in the executive branch in my lifetime, I would be happy enough.
And it’s time we took on a new women’s issue: women as leaders in this country. We still make .75¢ to a man’s dollar in this country.
But, I am not here to debate politics. That was my short answer. I am exhausted from staying up working on this issue and don’t wish to debate this right now. Perhaps another time?
PLUS, you don’t know me and the fact that I am here, right now, doing what I am doing—PROVES I am pretty open-minded.
“Soooooooo, you don’t care what women STAND for, just so long as they DON’T stand when they pish? Narrow thinking.”
Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo[1][2] or Mangundikardjo,[3] (new spelling: Lolo Sutoro)
*snip*
She left Soetoro in 1972, returning to Hawaii and reuniting with her son, who had returned from Indonesia in 1971 to attend school. Soetoro and Dunham saw each other periodically in the 1970s but did not live together again.[14] They were divorced in 1980.[7]
After the divorce, Soetoro married Erna Kustina. She bore him two children, Yusuf Aji Soetoro (b. 1981) and Rahayu Nurmaida Soetoro (b. 1984).[15]
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lolo_Soetoro
Open-Minded? You only care about one thing....Women’s issues.
There is a clear system in place at the secretaries of state offices. They must ensure that the candidates they place on the ballot are quyalified. The fact that they did not does not indicate the need for a new law. It argues for them to do their jobs and uphold their oaths of office to defend the constitution of their states and the US.
Or ask her, my what constitutional clause are you basing your assessment that a person is a Natural Born Citizen.
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I’d be shocked if a state official could render that legal and official Constitutional determination regarding a US president that, as far as I know, no US Court has ever entertained for a US presidential candidate or president, nor has any such ruling or decision ever been rendered in our history (there again, as far as I know).
Feel free to correct me.
“that voted for Hillary Clinton”
At least there is no doubt that Hillary is a natural born American.
I guess you’re right null. I think I am in denial about the reality of what our government really is now.
Dirty hands shall reap the whirlwind ..
The state of Florida received one signed by Nancy. Also a similar form signed by Obama and Biden.
I posted that DNC doc yesterday on this thread - post #19.
After I did, I did another search and found ANOTHER one on Count Us Out, and I saved that because it was cleaner and clearer and not smudgy. Initially, the first version showed an overwrite of the N in Nancy .. and I thought it looked like it was started with a faulty pen and then written over.
I was just going to delete the first smudgy version and keep the 2nd one in my image account. THEN I READ THEM BOTH!
***THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CHANGED IN THE 2ND VERSION. I've had the first one for awhile, have no clue where I found it. This is the money clause:
".... the following were duly nominated as candidates for said Party as President and Vice President of the United States respectively and the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution."
The Cleaner, 2nd Version
".... the following were nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively."
What's that all about ?? Pelosi re-thought her liability in the language of the first version and altered the text?
Correction on the 2nd: were DULY nominated
The second one has a stamp on it (Received August 29,2008)
but the first one doesn’t?
Nothing the DNC does surprises me anymore.
Does the later one supersede the other document? I don’t see where it says it supersedes the previous document. If that was Pelosi’s intent, then the DNC should have destroyed the one that says “Legally qualified to serve” document before it got out into the public domain.
There are changes all over the place. The signatures are all different.
Look at the hand written T in Travis it goes past the line and is written over the typed Germond on one version and on the other it doesn’t go over.
Looks like the date receipt from the
South Carolina Election Commission.
As I understand it, all states would
have received this certification
document for the Democrat party.
But the point remains:
the difference in the language
The curl of the T in Travis is different too. One curls straight up the other curls inward.
...and the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:Since I assume the version with the
is the official one, he was never officially certified as Constitutionly eligible to hold office.RECEIVED
AUG 29 2008
SC ELECTION COMM.
Why the change? Nancy knows the truth and wants plausible deniability when TSHTF.
MOO.
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