Posted on 08/13/2009 12:07:59 PM PDT by P.O.E.
Why? Russia and the ‘arabs’ will one day attack Israel. Of course they are working together. Russia sends Iran weapons, don’t they?
Yeah, esp. second amendment women, LOL.
Yeah, everyone knows my God is the true God. Yours is false. If you disagree with me we cn fight to the death. Makes lots of sese, doesn’t it!?
Because the entire attitude to Biblical interpretation is different.
In Catholicism you are not free to come to your own conclusions about what part means what. We have a creed- a philosophy and a few absolute points of belief - the Bible fits that, through the use of reason, as established by the Church long since.
There was a fashion for millenial thinking in the Church over 1000 years ago, but this has mostly been gone for the subsequent 1000 years.
And this is not limited to Catholics either, many Protestant denominations, as well as all the Orthodox, have similar positions.
I recommend a good book on St. Augustine to start.
I rarely see FReeper Catholics talk about end times or even believe we’re in it. Wonder why?
They're not dispensationalists (an "evangelical heresy").
They do discuss eschatology, sometimes. I've followed a discussion or two on FR. Did you know R.C.s have end times fiction? LDS likewise.
Claimed to be descendants, etc. It was something of a fashion among nationalist Hungarians.
Huns have no known connection with Magyars, the nomadic peoples who were the ancestors of the Hungarians.
Similar claims with just as sparse or non-existent basis include the Poles who used to claim descent from the ancient Sarmatians.
Asserting UNRUBBERIZED PLAIN BIBLICAL TRUTH AS OPPOSED TO
REPLACEMENTARIANS ET AL declaring rather brazenly that God couldn't have meant what He said
because . . . uhhhhh . . .
because . . . wellll . . . uhhh . . .
because . . . REPLACEMENTARIANS et al know better than God what God meant!
. . . how Dispy plain reading of plain Scriptur--how that's . . . labeled 'heresy' by the RUBBER BIBLE FOLKS.
God have mercy.
Wow. I was not aware of that.
Chiraq? He was one of the European leaders found prostituting himself to Sadam Hussein in exchange for oil vouchers under the UN “Oil for Food” scam.
Got anyone with some credibility to back this BS story up?
No, I don’t know anything about their fiction. Thanks.
Thanks for the ping!
My son, Mr. Seminary trained theologian, said the same thing....we all worship the same god..
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That can be taken to mean that the Lord is God of the whole Earth- whether some of these dopes know it or not.
They may hate Jesus and have evil in their hearts, but the Lord is in charge.
I agree. God promised to send them a Savior, and He did.
THAT, TOO
HAS NOTHING to do with negating the Biblical prophecies about the blood children of Jacob being fulfilled to the letter in this END TIMES era.
. . . no influence on those prophetic Scriptures and their current fulfillment to the slightest degree. Will not hinder their fulfillment in this era to the slightest degree.
Is akin to talking about apples, cacti and whale snot.
Whale snot?
8~)
‘APPLES AND ORANGES’
just doesn’t have sufficient punch for the realities of the topics involved.
| SCRIPTURE | Quix commentary |
|---|---|
| 3 The Lord has appeared of old to me, saying: “Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you. | Qx: i.e. “EVERLASTING” until you annoy me sufficiently that I’ll throw you overboard for the future Congregation of my Anointed One. !!!!WRONG!!!! THAT’S NOT in the text. It’s not even slightly implied in the text. |
| 4 Again I will build you, and you SHALL BE rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! You SHALL AGAIN be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice. | Qx: Unless I change my mind in a fit of pique and trash you in favor of the Congregation of my Anointed One. !!!!WRONG!!!!GOD SAID EVERLASTING! God MEANT EVERLASTING. . 1. GOD ALMIGHTY WAS NOT writing a RUBBER BIBLE, here. . 2. GOD’S EVERLASTING is NOT CONTINGENT on man’s sins nor on lack of man’s sins. GOD’S EVERLASTING is contingent on HIS NATURE, HIS WORD, HIS GLORY, HIS PURPOSES—none of which are hindered in the slightest by man’s anything. |
| 5 You shall yet plant vines on the mountains of Samaria; The planters shall plant and eat them as ordinary food. | Qx: 1. Has that happened yet? When in the last 2,000 years has that happened? . 2. HINT: It was NOT in the era of the REPLACEMENTARIAN’s et al’s RUBBER BIBLE, RUBBER HISTORY AND RUBBER CALENDAR OF 70 A.D. |
| 6 For there shall be a day When the watchmen will cry on Mount Ephraim, ‘Arise, and let us go up to Zion, To the Lord our God.’ “ | Qx: 1. When, oh when could that possibly be? . 2. Given all the givens . . . it has to be AFTER the dispersion of the Children of Jacob over the whole world, that happened . . . drum roll . . . in 70 A.D. . 3. Actually, it CANNOT BE YET, as Christ is not YET overtly reigning bodily in Jerusalem! . . . regardless of the addiction to symbolic glasses on the part of REPLACEMENTARIANS et al. 4. GOD IS NOT OVERTLY THERE yet . . . nor, for that matter, is the NEW PHYSICAL TEMPLE yet there [as it is Biblically promised to be] for the Children of Jacob to GO UP TO JERUSALEM, TO ZION, TO WORSHIP THE LORD at, in. |
| 7 For thus says the Lord: “Sing with gladness for Jacob, And shout among the chief of the nations; Proclaim, give praise, and say, ‘O Lord, save Your people, The remnant of Israel!’ | Qx: 1. NOT the magicsterical. NOT John Calvin. NOT John Knox. NOT REPLACEMENTARIANS. NOT A-mils. NOT Post-mils. NOT Preterists. NOT Run-of-the-Mils. NOT cemetery professors. NOT RUBBERY linguistic, slippers & sliders & pontificators. THE LORD SAYS! 2. FOR JACOB! NOT for Esau. NOT for ‘the islands’ afar off. NOT for the Congregation of The Anointed One. FOR JACOB. 3. THE CHIEF OF THE NATIONS. SO . . . WHO could JACOB, THE CHIEF OF THE NATIONS POSSIBLY BE??? . It clearly cannot be Israel CURRENTLY beleaguered on all sides by increasingly the whole of the rest of the world [as predicted in UNRUBBERIZED SCRIPTURE]. . So, WHEN will Israel qualify as the CHIEF OF THE NATIONS? DOH! AFTER Biblical, LITERAL Armageddon. . Are there REALLY still Christian FREEPERS who do NOT believe the whole world is building and racing toward literal Biblical Armageddon at an increasing speed? . . . with OThuga doing everything he can to quicken the pace toward THAT goal? . 4. Ahhhh . . . the REMNANT of Israel—Just as END TIMES PROPHETIC SCRIPTURES PREDICT in numerous places. NOT the remnant of the Congregation of The Anointed One. They will likely be there as grafted-in shirt-tail relatives. But they are not specifically mentioned here. . THE EMPHASIS HERE IS ON the REMNANT OF ISRAEL. |
| 8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, And gather them from the ends of the earth, Among them the blind and the lame, The woman with child And the one who labors with child, together; A great throng shall return there. | Qx: SO, When did that begin? . NOT in 70 A.D! DOH! They didn’t step into a revolving door back then, by a long shot! . For the willfully blind and other clueless types who’ve had their heads in the sand the last 61 years . . . it BEGAN in 1948 with the establishment of Israel as Biblically predicted—in a day—with the rather miraculous UN vote in their behalf. It has still not YET begun to occasion the vast sweep-in back to Israel of the Children of Jacob that Scripture describes even in the next verse. . WE CAN EXPECT . . . almost any day . . . events which will trigger a flood of the Children of Jacob back to Israel precisely as predicted in this and many other Scriptures. There was a posting on FR this past week that the returnees have almost made Israel's Jewish population equal to the number of Jews overseas. However, we WILL SEE the trickling back turn into a flood. |
| 9 They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn. | Qx: 1. THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY SHALL lead them with His strong hand. NOT some 6th level UN bureaucrat flunky. GOD ALMIGHTY. . 2. HE emphasizes again here—that HE IS A FATHER TO ISRAEL—the literal children of Jacob. Not, here, per se, to the Congregation of The Anointed One—TO ISRAEL. . 3. HIS FIRSTBORN. Ahhhhhh . . . FIRST born . . . a hint . . . there will be others. There WILL BE a Congregation of The Anointed One. However, the emphasis here is on the literal children of Jacob. |
| 10 “Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’ | Qx: 1. THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is addressing, here, THE NATIONS. . 2. HE notes that he will scatter Israel AND WILL GATHER ISRAEL. Now, IF HIS SCATTERING in this verse is literal as it was FULFILLED in 70 A.D., THEN, HIS GATHERING MUST ALSO BE LITERAL and MUST also involve THE SAME FOLKS SCATTERED—i.e. THE LITERAL BLOOD CHILDREN OF JACOB. . 3. There’s simply ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM for RUBBER HEADED RUBBER THEOLOGY BASED ON RUBBERY SCRIPTURE ‘TRANSLATION’/ INTERPRETATIONS. There’s absolutely NO logical room for such GOOFY-HEADED ‘symbolic’ interpretation. . 4. As a shepherd does his flock. Ahhhh . . . another hint . . . This is ONE flock. There is coming a Shepherd and another flock. |
Rats, forgot to change back the blue tag on the end.
Guess I’m still quite sufficiently human. sigh.
Thanks for taking the time to post and ping that. It explains it rather clearly (to me at least).
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