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Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocalypse?
Canadian Free Press ^ | Monday, August 24, 2009 | By Doug Hagmann and Sean Osborne

Posted on 08/26/2009 7:16:32 PM PDT by Irisshlass

can’t say anything about the roots of this story and I don’t plan to dig further… I need to think about my own skin too. Understand that as you will.” —Mikhail Voitenko, editor of the Russian maritime Bulletin Sovfrakht., speaking about the “hijacking” of the Arctic Sea

While it might seem like an unusual morphing of the movies Inside Man and The Hunt for Red October, the account of the cargo ship Arctic Sea is far stranger than either fictional account. Based on information developed through our extensive investigation, we can authoritatively state, without hyperbole, that the mysteries surrounding the MV Arctic Sea as deep as the Atlantic waters where it navigated and its “alleged” secret cargo as potentially dangerous to an unsuspecting, distracted populace as the coastal rip tides produced by a late summer hurricane.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: arcticsea; armssmuggling; hijack; hijacking; maritime; mysterycargo; russia
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1 posted on 08/26/2009 7:16:32 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

They might have delivered nukes to terrorists for all we know. I doubt Obummer cares


2 posted on 08/26/2009 7:19:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Ted is dead, sir- begins train ride to hell .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Irisshlass

Though there is a chance that Russia may be doing this ... but there is NO DOUBT in my mind that FUBO is ...


3 posted on 08/26/2009 7:29:52 PM PDT by clamper1797 (If Obama were a paid Soviet agent he could not do more damage ... Sen Thomas Jordan)
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To: GeronL

>> They might have delivered nukes to terrorists for all we know. I doubt Obummer cares

Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if Bambi were in on it.


4 posted on 08/26/2009 7:34:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Irisshlass
As Winston Churchill said in 1939:
"I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest."
They are always a significant number of Russians who consider themselves neither European nor Asian, even though their country spans both continents. These Slovophiles claim that Russia is uniquely her own realm. Russian will do what is good for Russia. Combine this perspective with the idea that many Russians have that their country is the natural successor to the Roman Empire and you get an extremely narrow form of nationalism. Another name for this narrow nationalism is fascism, whether socialist of communist.

One of the terms for communism in the 1930s was red fascism. It is alive and growing in Russia today.

5 posted on 08/26/2009 7:40:32 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Irisshlass

I doubt the boy scouts were buying the nukes...


6 posted on 08/26/2009 7:42:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: Irisshlass
i never believed it was hijacking... what kind of ransom can you ask for with a cargo worth LESS than $2million?
7 posted on 08/26/2009 7:47:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Irisshlass; SJackson; TigerLikesRooster; sickoflibs
The security implications pertaining to this incident are indeed ominous as they appear to directly relate to either a clandestine program of arming an enemy of the United States and Israel with nuclear weaponry or something far more sinister and conspiratorial.

What on earth could be "far more sinister and conspiratorial"?

8 posted on 08/26/2009 7:51:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: nuconvert
The security implications pertaining to this incident are indeed ominous as they appear to directly relate to either a clandestine program of arming an enemy of the United States and Israel with nuclear weaponry or something far more sinister and conspiratorial.

Ping

What on earth could be "far more sinister and conspiratorial"?

9 posted on 08/26/2009 7:55:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: Irisshlass

Bookmark for later read.


10 posted on 08/26/2009 8:02:06 PM PDT by your local physicist
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To: GOPJ

“What on earth could be “far more sinister and conspiratorial”?”

arming more than one enemy of the United States and Israel with nuclear weaponry?


11 posted on 08/26/2009 8:07:13 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

That’s how the Russians compromised out early atomic scientists - they convinced them that if all are equally “armed” the world’s safer. Sounds like a variation of that bulls-it.


12 posted on 08/26/2009 8:15:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: Irisshlass

Is this available somewhere else? I cannot get anything other than a blank page with Canada Free Press.


13 posted on 08/26/2009 8:17:42 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: arthurus

same here


14 posted on 08/26/2009 8:18:12 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: arthurus

That is strange..I just hit on the link, not a problem..

Try this.. http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2994


15 posted on 08/26/2009 8:24:27 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: GOPJ

A practice run for the wandering into New York harbor of a ‘hijacked’ freighter, from al Qaeda ... with a 2o megaton nuclear device on board. Or, if you prefer, a dry run on how to get an EMP weapon to our Eastern shores under color of some ‘other’ enemy than Russia. Of course, once the East Coast and all electronically stored data is toast, whom do we suppose is poised to become the lone super-power of the world? Thaaaat’s right, Puti Putin’s energy self-sufficient Russian bear.


16 posted on 08/26/2009 8:27:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Irisshlass

Thanks. That goes right to it.


17 posted on 08/26/2009 8:28:23 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Irisshlass

Another source:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/08/26/world/international-us-russia-ship-cargo.html


18 posted on 08/26/2009 8:55:40 PM PDT by khnyny (Barack Obama and Chauncey Gardiner: separated at birth)
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To: GeronL

Bambi might not care, but Zbigniew Brzezinski, who is his CFR handler, sure as heck does.


19 posted on 08/26/2009 9:18:12 PM PDT by Palin Republic
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; JLO; ...

pingo


20 posted on 08/26/2009 9:46:41 PM PDT by bitt (“You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak.” (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: Irisshlass; bitt; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
Thanks, bitt.

Pinging All - and TM'ers, too.

Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocalypse?

"... the account of the cargo ship Arctic Sea is far stranger than either fictional account.

Based on information developed through our extensive investigation, we can authoritatively state, without hyperbole, that the mysteries surrounding the MV Arctic Sea as deep as the Atlantic waters where it navigated and its “alleged” secret cargo as potentially dangerous to an unsuspecting, distracted populace as ..."

21 posted on 08/26/2009 10:02:43 PM PDT by LucyT (........... R. I. P. Mary Jo. ..........)
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To: khnyny

Thank-you.


22 posted on 08/26/2009 10:10:41 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: LucyT; george76; null and void; ASA Vet; Grampa Dave
The Soviets and the CHICOMs use surrogates to disrupt and destabilixe our forward deployed forces. They've done this for decades.

Problem is have they or their surrogates managed to cut the Chain of Commmand with the election of Obama
23 posted on 08/26/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: LucyT

thanks for the ping, most disturbing.


24 posted on 08/26/2009 10:23:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping. Imho, this was a deniable delivery, not a hijacking. I am only surprised the ship is still afloat.


25 posted on 08/26/2009 10:34:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Irisshlass

The Russians are far more civilized and rationale than you know who. The biggest threat to America is within our own borders.


26 posted on 08/26/2009 10:44:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Fred Nerks; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; WestCoastGal; Oorang; Godzilla; ...

More from the article:

“Some of the crew and all of the hijackers, including one who was later identified as a fisherman who supposedly died three years ago, were transported together by the Russians to a high security Moscow prison where they are being held incommunicado.”

[snip]

“According to intelligence reports following the alleged disappearance of the vessel - reports independently confirmed by this author through direct inquiries with U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources, the “repairs” were not repairs at all, but a very extensive project that involved completely dismantling and rebuilding the ship’s bulkhead to special military-like specifications. This was done to accommodate what was described by these intelligence officials as “very expensive and very deadly” cargo.”


27 posted on 08/26/2009 10:59:39 PM PDT by LucyT (........... R. I. P. Mary Jo. ..........)
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To: LucyT

Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocalypse?
~~~
TANKS,Lu,,,

I would say yes,,,

This was most likely a dry run,,,Maybe,,,

This whole Arctic Sea story stinks to high heaven...


28 posted on 08/26/2009 11:10:29 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LucyT

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/08/26/world/international-us-russia-ship-cargo.html?_r=1

“...”We do not rule out the possibility that they might have been carrying not only timber,” Alexander Bastrykin, head of the Prosecutor-General’s main investigations unit, said in an interview with the Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper published on Wednesday.

“This is why we need to examine the vessel; so that there are no dark spots in this story,” he said. “This is why we asked the crew members to stay on in Moscow; we also have to clarify whether anyone of them may be involved in these events.”

The ship underwent repairs in the Russian port of Kaliningrad just before the voyage and local media have reported the ship was smuggling arms or nuclear materials to buyers in the Middle East...


29 posted on 08/26/2009 11:18:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: LucyT

CUE Dragnet theme . . .

DUM DE DUM DUM
DUM DE DUM DUM
DUM DE DUM DUM !DUM!


30 posted on 08/27/2009 3:47:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BIGLOOK

Please read about such things in the quotes of our leaders from the last 100 years . . .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81

It’s quite a different perspective . . . and part and parcel of globalism.


31 posted on 08/27/2009 3:48:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
No but they are getting ready for war.


32 posted on 08/27/2009 3:51:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Socialism is not a bad word. It is a bad concept.)
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To: bmwcyle

I think Jack may be more right in this case than he sometimes is.

He does a lot of research and has a number of informative connections.

And he does know his Bible rather well.


33 posted on 08/27/2009 5:09:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: bmwcyle

Besides,

Russia, too,

is a mere tool of the globalist oligarchy. And has been so for a very long time . . . along with China and the USA.


34 posted on 08/27/2009 5:09:48 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: bmwcyle

Setting things up for an apocalypse is part and parcel of the globalist agenda . . .

to make controlling the world’s people easier and supposedly to save humanity and the planet from being destroyed by the vast population . . . they are determined to reduce the population by force to 200 million.

And certainly satan wants to remove Israel from the face of the earth. He has to know, though, that he can’t succeed.

Yet his pride and anger drive him on.


35 posted on 08/27/2009 5:47:00 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
The Bible says that its writings on the subject just becomes more clear as the time approaches. Jack keeps reading the Bible over and over. His vision will only become stronger.
36 posted on 08/27/2009 5:53:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Socialism is not a bad word. It is a bad concept.)
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To: bmwcyle

Quite so.

His manner and tone . . . still are a bit . . . overmuch for me.

However, he’s certainly sincere and deeply devoted to the calling God has placed on him. I don’t fault him for that. It’s just a style thing.

Besides, I’m strident enough in the role I’ve been placed in so I don’t have any room to talk! LOL.


37 posted on 08/27/2009 5:57:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Frantzie

“.....The biggest threat to America is within our own borders.”

26 posted on Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:44:20 AM by Frantzie

Amen! It is the Democrat Party


38 posted on 08/27/2009 6:04:29 AM PDT by sport
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To: Smokin' Joe
We can not dismiss this mystery ship story as it is unique historically. Agents of Disinformation are actively working to keep out of sight and mind.

Just follow this : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2320274/posts

39 posted on 08/27/2009 6:08:26 AM PDT by Broker (Reward: $100.00 for the lost book of Islamic Praise Songs.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks very much for the info. I find this story extremely disturbing.


40 posted on 08/27/2009 6:15:22 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Quix

Interesting story on this thread that may be OPI to the End Times List...

EXCERPT: [Last Paragraph of this installment of the story - Part II publishing today]

“So, what exactly was on the MV Arctic Sea, what was the intended destination of that secret cargo, and where is it now? Our intelligence sources from the U.S. to the UK and Israel have provided critical and unsettling insight into these questions. Their answers paint a very disturbing picture of state-sanctioned nuclear arms smuggling that will likely set the stage for an apocalyptic, end-game scenario ripped directly from the Book of Revelation. The consequences of such a scenario, allowed to continue without interdiction or exposure, could forever change the balance of power, if not the actual global geographical landscape itself.”


41 posted on 08/27/2009 6:28:04 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Quix

LOL - Didn’t see you were already on this thread! :)


42 posted on 08/27/2009 6:30:19 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LucyT

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6810911.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


43 posted on 08/27/2009 10:48:50 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

“The saga also took a bizarre new twist when the ministry disclosed that the ship’s captain had tried to pass off the Arctic Sea as a North Korean vessel when it was intercepted by the Russian Navy. This is the first time that investigators have implicated the crew in the mystery.

The ministry said that the captain “unexpectedly claimed” to be in charge of a ship called the Chongdin 2 that was carrying timber from Cuba to Sierra Leone. Russian diplomats in Pyongyang checked with North Korean officials and were told that the Chongdin 2 was docked at a port in Angola at the time.”


44 posted on 08/27/2009 10:51:10 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Frantzie

You know it’s interesting you say that. Under Obama, while at this moment my freedoms aren’t less than before, I don’t like where it’s heading and I’ve often thought that Russia seems to care more about it’s citizens than Obama. Obama cares about America as a whole only to the point that it feeds his own ego. I fear more than anything that when America finally does turn on him in a big way, he will screw us all because he and Michelle just seem like ‘that kind’ of people. The egocentric maniac.


45 posted on 08/27/2009 10:58:52 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Irisshlass; Velveeta; WestCoastGal; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; milford421; Godzilla; callmejoe; ...

Thank you, Irisshlass.

Ping All and TM’ers, to Updates at #43 and #44, including this statement from the latest article:

“The saga also took a bizarre new twist when the ministry disclosed that the ship’s captain had tried to pass off the Arctic Sea as a North Korean vessel when it was intercepted by the Russian Navy. This is the first time that investigators have implicated the crew in the mystery.”


46 posted on 08/27/2009 11:19:50 AM PDT by LucyT (........... R. I. P. Mary Jo. ..........)
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To: LucyT

Ping please when the Canada Free Press posts the second in their series on this ship.


47 posted on 08/27/2009 11:24:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Irisshlass
FR thread of that article:

Russia says it tracked hijacked Arctic Sea all along, but questions grow over cargo(NK twist)

48 posted on 08/27/2009 11:50:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: MHGinTN; LucyT; Cindy; BIGLOOK; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; GeronL; ...
Another source... Northeast Intelligence Network

Is Russia setting the stage for a nuclear apocalypse?

49 posted on 08/27/2009 11:57:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: LucyT

A real mystery, huh? Reminds me of those trucks carrrying produce from Mexico. BUT, when you look behind the ‘secret panel’ you find 250 illegals.

I wonder what was behind the “secret panel” on this ship?


50 posted on 08/27/2009 12:03:33 PM PDT by azishot
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