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BRITAIN AND FRANCE IN WAR AT 6 A. M. (9/3/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 9/3/39 | Neville Chamberlain, Arno Dosch-Fleurot, John Gunther, John MacCormac, Otto D. Tolischus

Posted on 09/03/2009 5:28:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 09/03/2009 5:28:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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A key to map symbols is on my profile.

2 posted on 09/03/2009 5:29:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

3 posted on 09/03/2009 5:30:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

4 posted on 09/03/2009 5:32:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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03/09/1939: 55 Polish peasants are rounded up and shot at Truskolasy by the Nazis.

http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/war-in-europe/eastern-europe/eastern-europe-index-1939.htm

An RAF Blenheim bomber of 139 Squadron conducts the RAF's first operational sortie of the war when it flew over to Germany to check shipping in the Schillig Roads. With a frozen radio, it was unable to transmit any information back to base and by the time it landed it was too late to mount an attack that day. Later that night, Whitley bombers conduct an number of leaflet dropping sorties over Germany.

http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/war-in-europe/european-air-war/european-air-war-index-1939.htm

The Kriegsmarine begins its campaign against British merchant shipping with 17 U-boats putting to sea out of a total of about 57 operational boats, far fewer than the 300 Dönitz had felt he needed to succeed against Britain.

http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/war-at-sea/atlantic/battle-of-the-atlantic-index-1939.htm

5 posted on 09/03/2009 5:32:46 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
To End Oppression – 2-3
Elliot Roosevelt Urges We Be Calm – 3
Leading Nazi Paper Tells Meaning of Soviet Terms – 3
Announcement of Final Ultimatum – 4
Text of Chamberlain Address – 5
Bulletins on European Conflict – 6-7
Germans Rush Gayly to Arms, Believing Poland Will Be Crushed in 10 Days – 8-9
Germans Mobilize in Festive Spirits – 11
2,000 Americans Sail from Britain – 12
Germans Do Not Believe Attack on Poland Will Lead to World War, Journalist Reports – 12
Hitler’s Tactics Stiffen British – 13
Voters Are Divided on Neutrality Act – 13
Canada Confident on British Course – 14
Combatants Sought by Envoys in Mexico – 14
21 Civilians Killed in Raid on Warsaw – 15-16
Turkey Reiterates Pledge of Loyalty – 16
London Zoo Kills Snakes Lest Air Raid Free Them – 16
Hitler Promises Limited Bombing – 16-17
Soviet in Warning – 18-19
6 posted on 09/03/2009 5:34:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Poles felt they had been delivered...little did they know.


7 posted on 09/03/2009 5:42:24 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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Interesting article on killing the poisonous London zoo reptiles and spiders. Gives one an idea of Great Britain’s state of mind at the time.


8 posted on 09/03/2009 5:48:19 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Proud FR Mobster)
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It will be interesting to see how things seem to “return to normal” during the “Phoney War” which lasts until May of 1940.


9 posted on 09/03/2009 5:53:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It was finally agreed, according to the British minute, though Bonnet does not mention this, that the British would deliver their ultimatum at 8 a.m. and the French theirs at noon. Bonnet’s parting shot to the British was similar to Daladier’s a few minutes before. “If the British bombers,” he said, “could be ready at once to reply to bombing attacks the position might be different.”
Chamberlain and Halifax in their telephone conversations with the French had not exaggerated the precarious position of the Tory government in the seething House of Commons. At 2 a.m. that night, Ambassador Corbin rang up Bonnet to warn him that the Chamberlain government risked being overthrown unless it could assure the Commons when it met at 10 a.m that the British ultimatum, with a time limit of a few hours, had already been delivered in Berlin. Corbin added that the British government had finally decided to deliver the ultimatum in Berlin at 9 a.m. with hostilities, so far as Britain was concerned, commencing at 11 a.m.
Corbin also asked if Paris could not “shorten the delay.” Bonnet recounts that he telephoned the Ministry of War to ask it and was answered:

Ask London if it can put the British Bomber Force at our disposition tomorrow morning. In that case the French General Staff can accept a reduction of the delay.

The message, says Bonnet, was relayed by Corbin to the British Foreign Office but the British General Staff Could not make a decision immediately. “Once again,” the Foreign Minister recounts, “we are halted by the insufficiency of our means of action.” One wonders why Daladier and Bonnet insisted on British bombers. Fighters, not bombers, would have been the “means” of halting a German air attack. And the French had enough fighters to turn back any bombers the Germans could spare from Poland.

William Shirer, “The Collapse of the Third Republic” p. 501-502.

This is a passage from the longer chapter about how the British were finally serious about going to war and stopping Hitler, and how the French had to be reluctantly dragged into it. The French military under Gamelin represented to the civilian government that the minute France went to war with Germany, fleets of German bombers would appear over every French city and slaughter civilians. Later in the chapter there is a plaintive plea from French Foreign Minister Bonnet to objecting to calling the diplomatic note to Berlin an “ultimatum” because it sounded to strong. Sheesh.....


10 posted on 09/03/2009 6:06:14 AM PDT by henkster (The frog has noticed the increase in water temperature)
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Here is a contribution from abb, who is unable to join us today. This vessel will become famous tomorrow. SS Athenia
11 posted on 09/03/2009 6:09:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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03/09/1939: 55 Polish peasants are rounded up and shot at Truskolasy by the Nazis.

Just a note for those who might be confused, the date is in European format, so the date was September 3, 1939, and not March 9, 1939.

12 posted on 09/03/2009 6:10:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I have a book on the Times front page covers during the war. It’s interesting to read stories during the phony war period. Every artillery exchange gets pumped up to be another Verdun.


13 posted on 09/03/2009 6:19:18 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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French!


14 posted on 09/03/2009 6:29:40 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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Thanks!


15 posted on 09/03/2009 6:30:14 AM PDT by 6323cd (I Am Jim Thompson)
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Thank you, BTW. These threads are awesome and I know you take a lot of time to put them together.


16 posted on 09/03/2009 6:30:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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The Kriegsmarine had begun operations against Britain in August when GRAF SPEE and DEUTSCHLAND put out to sea.


17 posted on 09/03/2009 6:59:50 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Thank you, BTW. These threads are awesome and I know you take a lot of time to put them together.

Yes they are! I look forward to these every morning.

18 posted on 09/03/2009 7:05:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The Kriegsmarine had begun operations against Britain in August when GRAF SPEE and DEUTSCHLAND put out to sea.

Absolutely. The German navy wasn't going to be caught with some of their ships in bad locations at the outbreak of war like they were in 1914.

19 posted on 09/03/2009 7:10:55 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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I wish we still had papers like those...


20 posted on 09/03/2009 7:36:59 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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