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EMP Attack Could Wipe Out U.S.
NewsMax ^ | September 9, 2009 | By Ronald Kessler

Posted on 09/09/2009 8:34:08 AM PDT by Fennie

The federal government is doing "nothing" to protect against an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack that could wipe out American civilization, Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, a leading expert on the subject, tells Newsmax.

For only $200 million to $400 million, the government could protect a key element of the power grid to keep electrical power from being wiped out for years, according to Dr. Pry, a former staff member of the congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack.

Yet neither Republicans nor Democrats have been willing to spend that small sum, says Pry, who is president EMPACT America, which is meeting in Niagara Falls, N.Y. this week to spotlight the scandal.

A single nuclear bomb exploded over the Midwest would generate an electromagnetic pulse that would destroy the chips that are the heart of every electronic device. While military and intelligence networks may be shielded against EMP, most of the rest of the country's technological infrastructure is not.

An EMP attack would wipe out personal computers and the internet. Cars would not start, gasoline pumps would not work, and airplanes could not take off.

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1 posted on 09/09/2009 8:34:10 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

I vote for global mutually assured destruction. No matter who the perpetrator might be.

If we go down — then we’ll make sure that EVERYBODY goes down — all over the planet.


2 posted on 09/09/2009 8:35:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Fennie

Yep, buy an older car without a computer.


3 posted on 09/09/2009 8:35:56 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Fennie

Oh gezz... Not this crap again.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 8:36:11 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Fennie
I'm all for an EMP if it would spell the end of government as we know it.

Lock and load.

5 posted on 09/09/2009 8:36:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Fennie
A single nuclear bomb exploded over the Midwest

Highly unlikely and if it happens we have bigger problems than EMP.
6 posted on 09/09/2009 8:36:30 AM PDT by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: Fennie

7 posted on 09/09/2009 8:38:00 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Paging Col. von Stauffenberg, please pick up the white courtesy phone at Langley)
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To: Fennie

As usual, we’re all gonna die.


8 posted on 09/09/2009 8:38:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Tagline pawned: Ticket Number 1032983. Redeem by Oct 4, 2009.)
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To: Fennie

9 posted on 09/09/2009 8:38:22 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Paging Col. von Stauffenberg, please pick up the white courtesy phone at Langley)
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To: Nathan Zachary

And your minority perspective is based on

. . . what . . .

exactly?


10 posted on 09/09/2009 8:38:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Fennie

Excellent fictional book on the topic: http://www.onesecondafter.com/

Frightening read, but it will certainly keep your attention.


11 posted on 09/09/2009 8:39:20 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Fennie

Maybe Obama should call Tom Beaden and ask him to come out of retirement to set up the woodpecker grid properly so we are safe, and the Soviets can’t shoot down anymore space shuttles with their emp ray guns.


12 posted on 09/09/2009 8:39:42 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Fennie

Who cares about EMP? When we have the ENEMY WITHIN KILLING OUR CONSTITUTION, CULTURE AND FREEDOM. Slavery to the state is worse than any fate from some improbable EMP pulse.


13 posted on 09/09/2009 8:39:57 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: MikeWUSAF

What is the source of your

“highly unlikely”

conviction?

Lots of experts I read seem to disagree.


14 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Unfortunately the government is the only entity that is hardened against such an attack.

Jericho anyone?


15 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:17 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Great minds...


16 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:25 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Lazamataz

Not you.

YOu’ll just burrow deeper into . . .

. . . . the numbers.


17 posted on 09/09/2009 8:41:05 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Please note that old, defunct microwaves act as (because they are) Faraday cages. I surf Craigslist looking for them, and advise all FReepers to do so also, except those in the Houton area, because I’m greedy like that.


18 posted on 09/09/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: o_zarkman44
Unfortunately the government is the only entity that is hardened against such an attack.

You have far more faith in the competency of government than I.

19 posted on 09/09/2009 8:41:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

There is THAT alright!


20 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:02 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Fennie

The post-EMP disaster is described in this book “http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252510654&sr=8-1";


21 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:09 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: Lazamataz

22 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:22 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.........)
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To: Quix

That EMP pulse disaster theeories are fictional garbage. I’d be much more worried of being vaporized than an emp wave that doesn’t extend much beyond the destruction zone of a nuclear blast.


23 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: I Buried My Guns

So what do you do with the old microwave once you have it?


24 posted on 09/09/2009 8:42:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Fennie

Again? Someone in MSM likes to push this concept.

Surrender now, America! One single tiny bomb can wipe you all out forever, and your government is helpless against this threat!

Sort of sounds like Ming the Merciless talking to Buck Rogers, your puny Earth technology cannot save you now!


25 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:14 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Fennie

Read “One Second After” by William R. Forstchen, and you will understand a lot better what could happen to us in such an attackk!


26 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:28 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (`)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yep ... Seems like it’s on rotation.


27 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:44 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Crawl inside....:)


28 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.........)
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To: Roklok
Yep, buy an older car without a computer.

Good luck finding a gas station without a digital pump.

29 posted on 09/09/2009 8:44:16 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Fennie
For only $200 million to $400 million, the government could protect a key element of the power grid to keep electrical power from being wiped out for years, according to Dr. Pry, a former staff member of the congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack.

I call BS. If this is true, then just put in a single unit to protect the entire US, or maybe one unit on each coast ... wrong.

You would need to distribute these units along each circuit, across the nation. The EMP pulse is very narrow, and very fast - it's an impulse that any 'antennae' will pick up, whether that antenna is your radio, a chunk of co-axial wire bringing cable TV and the internet into your home, a trace on a PC board, speaker wire, or your home's wiring system itself. You cannot feasibly protect yourself from this, that's why it's so effective. Bear in mind, this pulse also travels at near light speed, so you won't get a little light coming on that tells you to unplug your TV - it will have done it's thing and dissipated long before you eye's would register the light coming on.

I would rather invest my money in a missle shield; so we can stop the EMP pulse before it gets over American air space.

30 posted on 09/09/2009 8:44:28 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Roklok

“Yep, buy an older car without a computer.”

Well, cash for clunkers tried to take that option off the table. :)


31 posted on 09/09/2009 8:44:48 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: MikeWUSAF

A single bomb over the midwest would fry electronics in the affected area but it wouldn’t fry them across the country. It would probably take the power down over much of the country but a tree limb can do that.


32 posted on 09/09/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Some folks assert that we have

satellites that can deliver such pulses in narrow beams and broad beams.

And, iirc, bombs can be engineered to maximize such pulses.


33 posted on 09/09/2009 8:45:54 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Fennie
This was mentioned in a James Bond film - “A View To A Kill”. Roger Moore's last Bond film - 1985.

The plot was the KGB stole the plans to make EMF-resistant microchips, which Great Britian developed.

Maybe they should have held back on using the script; the plot would be more tangible to people now.

34 posted on 09/09/2009 8:45:57 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral?)
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To: Hodar

That ASSUMES

that the PTB

would USE said defefnsive shield

when their GOAL is to destroy the USA to make setting up the overt global government all the easier and faster.

. . . a flawed assumption, to me.


35 posted on 09/09/2009 8:47:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ElayneJ

At least my John deere tractors that use a fully mechanical injection system will still run.


36 posted on 09/09/2009 8:47:58 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Don't blame me,I voted for the American)
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To: BenLurkin

Snake Plissken kinda faced this scenario in Escape from L.A.


37 posted on 09/09/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by isom35
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To: BenLurkin
If we go down — then we’ll make sure that EVERYBODY goes down — all over the planet.

Excellent idea, with the first 4 salvos of MIRVs reserved for Mecca, Brussels, Caracas, and Tehran...

Oh, and 2 more for Paris and Moscow.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

38 posted on 09/09/2009 8:49:33 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Hodar

You could buy a filter for your incoming power, that would catch the surge from the line from the transformer to your house. POTS telco too. The filters are COTS items. (big distribution transformers are in the process of retrofit against solar flare-induced saturation, many also have considerable attenuation against HEMP).

My internet and TV is fiber, no point in filtering that.

We as citizens could do what the government/military does to harden against HEMP or SREMP. Personally I think an attack by hoards of people armed with sticks and stones to be more likely.


39 posted on 09/09/2009 8:50:59 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The electronic parts in your car is what you should store in it. Not THE parts out of your vehicle, but replacement parts. I'm thinking the computer and chips that regulate fuel/air mix, but I'm not a mechanic, just a kook. Others here are more knowledgeable on the exact components.

Personaly, I keep a transistor/shortwave radio in mine, as the ability to communicate will be important after all forms of mass electronic media go down. My radio was about $20 and I get signal as far away as Florida. (I'm in Houston, so that's like, totally far!)

My other preparing-for-the-apocalypse-fantasy involves dropping an old non-electronic diesel engine in a newer vehicle. Non-electronic diesel engines will survive EMP because they are purely mechanical.

40 posted on 09/09/2009 8:51:13 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Fennie

The more we rely on electronics(ATM, Direct Deposit, etc.)


41 posted on 09/09/2009 8:51:43 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"So what do you do with the old microwave once you have it?"

You can take it apart and play with the two big round magnets, maybe save the copper. Otherwise chuck it out.

Or you can give it to one of the weirdo's that think they are going to twirl a magnet just right and discover the "mysteries of the magnet" and make a perpetual motor that generates free electricity, if the MIB's don't come and steal his invention when he's oh so close to solving the mysteries first...

You can find a kook here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php

42 posted on 09/09/2009 8:52:35 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Fennie

Nothing new here. EMP is an old story. However, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t prepare. It is an easy way to cripple the nation.


43 posted on 09/09/2009 8:52:46 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Fennie

a meteor can wipe out US and the government isn’t DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT! FEAR! DEMAND ACTION! DEMAND THEY SPEND MORE MONEY! on useless crap


44 posted on 09/09/2009 8:52:53 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Fennie
This is a fact. No water, no way to receive or send communications, no phones etc. possibly ‘ham radio’ operators would be viable.
no transportation means. Only old ignition systems that might be serviceable,

We would immediately be back at frontier days style of life and who of the younger generations has a clue about it?

Riots and home break invasions, pillaging chaos would be supreme. There are a few survivalists that are prepared ... with food and water storage, seeds, solar panels for a bit of low power,vitamins, medicines, wood or coal for burning as heat source, true survival equipment necessary to make it for a time. What we would hope for is a prepared cave somewhere isolated.

The TV program “Jericho” a couple of years ago ... was an idea of what a small town would be like. Interesting show.

Some would say "why try to survive?" For what?

45 posted on 09/09/2009 8:53:23 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Fennie

Gee, no iPods, cell phones, GPS systems, or video games.... Can someone set off an EMP today..., please....


46 posted on 09/09/2009 8:53:47 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: I Buried My Guns

Look, if your close enough to a nuclear explosion to be effected by an “emp” pulse, Worrying about your car stalling will be the last thing on your mind.

I think the flesh dripping off your arms will be a priority, if you can still see that is...


47 posted on 09/09/2009 8:55:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Fennie

Its the Amish I tell you. This is all part of their plan to take over. /sarc


48 posted on 09/09/2009 8:56:42 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

How old do the microwaves have to be?

I would like to put my crank radio into one.


49 posted on 09/09/2009 8:57:42 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It is a likely occurence. It kills most all the people as a result given time and it leaves all the structures, property and systems for the conquerors.

It is rather amazing it has not happened already from some mad man like Iran’s Adumenenhjad (sp)

50 posted on 09/09/2009 8:57:57 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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