Star Trek Sequel May Contain Pointed Modern Commentary

/Film ^ | September 15, 2009 | Russ Fischer

[EveningStar]

OK, so JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and a talented cast (to whom, if things are really fair, a lot of the credit must be given) successfully rebooted Star Trek. Obviously there will be another film, and if nearly thirty years of films in the franchise have taught us anything, it is that making a crappy Trek film is all too easy. So what next for the series? More Shakespeare? Or something else? Based on recent comments, it sounds like Star Trek 2 (or whatever it will be called) could get all sorts of modern, at least from a thematic standpoint...

[EveningStar]

I guess it depends on what commentary is made. We'll have to wait and see.

[EveningStar]

ping

[Always Right]

Just when we thought the Trekies would die out a new generation is born.

[bvw]

“pointed modern commentary” is codeword for an unwatchable megaexpensive awful piece of pedantic dreck.

[Joe 6-pack]

The Federation of Planets elects its first *Romulan* president and Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise are sent on an expedition to locate his birth certificate.

[GunRunner]

On one of the movie sites I frequent, someone suggested that the plotline involve the Vulcans, who had their planet blown up in the last movie, be repatriated in the Romulan empire with a new homeland, and deal with the conflict that might follow.

The subject could be a kind of Vulcan Zionism and the ups and downs that happen with it.

Not a bad idea if you ask me.

[al baby]

[al baby]

Cola out the nose thanks

[Dallas59]

A future ACORN dealing in Green Slave Women?

[2ndDivisionVet]

Will Galactic Emperor Chimpy McBushitler be blamed for the invasion of the “peaceful” planet Islamastan?

[K-oneTexas]

At this point I’d much rather see more Star Trek: Enterprise. The theme song was great too.

Seen enough Shatner and Kirk to last a lifetime.

[Question_Assumptions]

I think the new BSG got pretty darned pretentious around the point of New Caprica to the end.

[the anti-liberal]

Wasn’t it the liberal social commentary that did in Star Trek to begin with? I really hope they don’t go down that path again.

[relictele]

Gene Roddenberry and Gene Coon were quite adept at allegory but today’s hacks lack the capacity for nuance.

This is why they excel at comic book adaptions but fail utterly at ‘serious’ fare because they can’t make their point without hitting the audience over the head.

[DTogo]

Fascinating...

Especially since Vulcans and Romulans are supposed to be ethnic cousins so to speak. Maybe Sarah Palin could get the role of Romulan Queen...

Live long and prosper, GunRunner.

[cripplecreek]

[EveningStar]

That sounds interesting.

[Question_Assumptions]

If they handle social issues the way the original series did, it could work. But I’m not sure I want a young Captain Kirk lecturing aliens on the meaning of war, humanity, or any other issue.

[KarlInOhio]

The Federation economy collapses when they realize that no one will actually do any work if they have free access to holodecks.

The Ferengi Reserve Board replace gold pressed latinum with a copper and nickel alloy and freely printed Latinum Certificates which they say are just as good.

[Vaquero]

“pointed modern commentary” is codeword for an unwatchable megaexpensive awful piece of pedantic dreck.

Could be, I hope not....this new reboot Abrams did in May, was the best ST movie since Wrath of Kahn...I cant wait for the blue ray to come out in November.

[eddie willers]

someone suggested that the plotline involve the Vulcans, who had their planet blown up in the last movie

Since the DVD is not out yet, is it too late for me to whine "Spoiler Alert!"?

[PeteB570]

Well, I liked this latest version of Star Trek. I’ll get the DVD.

Could have been better, could have been a lot worse.

I think the only two I really didn’t like were the V-ger and Nemisis ones.

[Vaquero]

Entgerprise was my favorite series....gotta love it.

but the last movie was friggin’ great.....

[Fresh Wind]

Wasn’t it the liberal social commentary that did in Star Trek to begin with?

What would make you say that?

[Night Hides Not]

I guess it depends on what commentary is made. We'll have to wait and see.

I'd love to see Spock do a "mind-meld" with John Galt.

[Reagan Man]

Maybe Sulu will get his health care benefits revoked and his sex change operation denied.

[Alex Murphy]

Star Trek Sequel May Sure To Contain Pointed Modern Commentary Blatant Liberal Message and Ham-Fisted, One-Sided Polemics

[the anti-liberal]

"What would make you say that?"

Gee, I have no idea...

[EveningStar]

That was written by the aformentioned Gene Coon. He used the pseudonym “Lee Cronin” because of a contractual conflict.

[FrogMom]

Don’t forget the one with the planet so stuffed with people that they wanted to get a disease to kill a bunch of them.

[FredZarguna]

Wouldn't happen.

John Galt would blow Spock's mind.

[EveningStar]

LOL

[discostu]

There weren’t any blatant liberal messages in the reboot, and this one is being done by the same team.

[the anti-liberal]

"... and this one is being done by the same team."

That is the one and only consolation.

[Jet Jaguar]

LOL!!!!

[discostu]

Really reading the article I don’t see anything “scary”. They’re just saying you need to have some sort of situation normal people can relate to, which of course is true. but also that it’s primarily entertainment. Really JJ’s history doesn’t have much if any preaching in his shows, he mostly likes to tell stories that look like they have a lot of layers but really don’t, and he’s really fond of characters shifting allegiances.

[tbw2]

This Kirk seemed a little more human, from a car accidentally off a cliff to interrupted coitus opportunity. Less high on the horse.

[LauraJean]

The last has got to be one of the best. I loved the young McCoy.

[GunRunner]

Since the DVD is not out yet, is it too late for me to whine "Spoiler Alert!"?

I figured every Freeper who cared to look at this thread would already have seen it.

Apologies, but that is the tip of the iceberg for the secrets in this movie. I promise I didn't ruin anything except for one event that happens about 45 minutes in.

[mikrofon]

[KevinDavis]

A big thanks goes to Visualops for the Banner!!

[FortWorthPatriot]

But first he has to take a tour of the galaxy so he can apologize for every bad thing the Federation has done...

[Question_Assumptions]

The original series had adults in charge, with episodes warning about putting kids in charge (Charlie X, Miri, And the Children Shall Lead, The Way To Eden). Missing that lesson in the post-60s world, it's now cool to have the kids in charge. As much as I liked the new movie (and I really did -- the living up to your father's example and Pike as a leader helped a great deal there), it does still remind me of the younger SG-1 team parody from the 200th episode of Stargate SG-1.

[bushpilot1]

Mom “Linda is on the phone”

Me “I am watching Star Trek”

[Borges]

Science Fiction has always dealt with allegory of various sorts. The original ST Tv show was a comment on Race Relations and Cold War tensions.

[x]

Now more relevant than ever.

[bvw]

I’m pretty sure Gene Roddenberry never would have described it as “pointed modern commentary”. That’s Obama-talk.

[xp38]

He was more fun as the Riddler

[Lazamataz]

If they are making a pointed modern commentary, it will be about how anyone who opposes communism is a racist.

[Seruzawa]

On other words, Hollyweird people simply can’t stop themselves from moralist preaching at the general population... between their visits to divorce court and rehab.