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Is missing page 11 from Dunham Divorce Decree the Kenyan Birth Certificate?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message856578/pg1 ^

Posted on 09/21/2009 9:08:51 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

(Just some more possible wrinkles in the mystery --content below is pasted in--not sure what 'kenyan BC' the author refers to--I thought it was debunked--it is apparently true pg 11 is missing from the decree however):

>>Is missing page 11 from Dunham Divorce Decree the Kenyan Birth Certificate?

It follows spot-on with the divorce decree time-line ... February, 1964. Stanley A. Dunham filed for Divorce Monday, Jan. 20th, 1964. Her Divorce was granted exactly 3 months later, after no cooperation from Obama Sr., causing the "default" items in the Decree to be enforced by the Judge.

I personally believe the Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate is the real-deal according to my research here.

The parallels between the dates on the birth certificate and from what has been disclosed about the divorce, only serves to reinforce my initial conclusion. Understanding the Dunham family and CIA connections

Since this certificate is a copy of the original, it appears as if Obama Sr. did not sign the original certificate (no signature present), yet, he listed as the Father. It would either mean he was not present at Obama's birth, or is not the Father, something Stanley Ann would be trying to promote otherwise.

Many of you may not believe this, but extensive research indicates (various sources) that Stanley A. Dunham was recruited by the CIA early in her career. She went from Anthropologist to working at a known "CIA Spook" company called the Ford Foundation. From there, she created the "Micro-finance" scheme for lending poor people loans (sound familiar, like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae?). It started with her Father, Stanley Dunham, who worked for David Rockefeller at David's "Standard Oil Company". David Rockefeller started the Council on Foreign Relations and his first choice to lead the Council was none-other-than Marxist enthusiast Zbigniew Brzezinski.

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KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; imom; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma

1 posted on 09/21/2009 9:08:51 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

And this was just posted on Orly Taitz facebook:


Karen Mahan:

Todays news for the Obama/Dunham divorce papers is...AXJ says Orly is in possession of the legal certified copy of the divorce papers & they PROVE BO was not born in the US!!! Copies will be given to all parties on Oct 5 ( discovery day) Orly has missing page #11...


2 posted on 09/21/2009 9:10:20 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

veri series


3 posted on 09/21/2009 9:13:32 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Revelation 911

And hugh az wel!


4 posted on 09/21/2009 9:17:33 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Palin/Malkin 2012...the 'Cuda and the Asian Fox!)
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To: cycle of discernment

Todays news for the Obama/Dunham divorce papers is...AXJ says Orly is in possession of the legal certified copy of the divorce papers & they PROVE BO was not born in the US!!! Copies will be given to all parties on Oct 5 ( discovery day) Orly has missing page #11...

BS, if she has it release it. She is going to turn up dead or not turn up at all.


5 posted on 09/21/2009 9:21:35 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Everything that hits the fan is not evenly distributed)
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To: cycle of discernment
Wow, she's really reaching here. My dad was on a destroyer off the coast of Nam when I was born and his signature isn't on MY BC either. Nor was a copy of mine or my brothers' included in the divorce papers 14 years later.
6 posted on 09/21/2009 9:23:20 AM PDT by graywaiter (Sure you can trust the government.......just ask any Cherokee)
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To: cycle of discernment
Orly has missing page #11...

She also has missing most of her marbles.

7 posted on 09/21/2009 9:23:52 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: LucyT

FWIW ping


8 posted on 09/21/2009 9:28:33 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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To: cycle of discernment

Explains why Rockefeller’s nose is so far up Obama’s butt.


9 posted on 09/21/2009 9:30:24 AM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: humblegunner

Got all her marbles, but her shooter is cracked.


10 posted on 09/21/2009 9:31:31 AM PDT by Invictus (Get used to living in the USSA (ununited socialist states of america))
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To: cycle of discernment
Perhaps I am missing something here, but it seems to me that a Kenya birth certificate would INCREASE the likelihood that Barack Sr. would have signed it. I've always had difficulty with the idea that, in 1961, a pregnant white college student would fly to Kenya, for any reason, even for work, given the state of travel and medical care in that country. I could see her traveling with her newborn after the fact, but even that would be a stretch considering the uneasy tension in that family.

I think he either has something *else* to hide or he is having fun making the birthers the face of the political opposition.

11 posted on 09/21/2009 9:34:26 AM PDT by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: humblegunner

hilarious.

so, i guess you’d also spend $1m to keep people from seeing your BC.

she has more bawls then libs, that’s for sure. definitely more then the media, minus GBeck.


12 posted on 09/21/2009 9:36:00 AM PDT by sten
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
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Is missing page 11 from Dunham Divorce Decree the Kenyan Birth Certificate?

It follows spot-on with the divorce decree time-line ... February, 1964. Stanley A. Dunham filed for Divorce Monday, Jan. 20th, 1964. Her Divorce was granted exactly 3 months later, after no cooperation from Obama Sr., causing the "default" items in the Decree to be enforced by the Judge.

[snip]

The parallels between the dates on the birth certificate and from what has been disclosed about the divorce, only serves to reinforce my initial conclusion. Understanding the Dunham family and CIA connections.

Since this certificate is a copy of the original, it appears as if Obama Sr. did not sign the original certificate (no signature present), yet, he listed as the Father. It would either mean he was not present at Obama's birth, or is not the Father, something Stanley Ann would be trying to promote otherwise.

13 posted on 09/21/2009 9:37:25 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: humblegunner
She also has missing most of her marbles.

Hey, I hear Orly is bringing in co-counsel, to assist her, a famouse television lawyer, whose work is internationally known.

.


14 posted on 09/21/2009 9:38:08 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: sten
so, i guess you’d also spend $1m to keep people from seeing your BC.

If Taitz was the only one looking for it, I could keep it hidden for maybe a buck fifty.

She is an incompetent, shrill nut case.

She may well be a plant, hired to put a clowns face on the whole issue.

15 posted on 09/21/2009 9:39:45 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Pilsner; a fool in paradise
Naw, not a cartoon character!


16 posted on 09/21/2009 9:40:32 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: cycle of discernment

By all means, ignore the truth bombs going off by the minute around our Marxist president and continue flogging this nonsense. It doesn’t make conservatives look stupid at all. Really. Okay, maybe a teensy bit. Sheesh.


17 posted on 09/21/2009 9:46:13 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: cycle of discernment

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


18 posted on 09/21/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: LucyT

The fact that he was already married in Kenya with two children, might make him a bit shy about acknowleging a child out of wedlock, or being married to two women at the same time.

The fact that he did not really live that much with the two of them, is also strange. Like it was not his kid, et al, Frank Marshall???

Note also that Maya was born in Indonesia, and has a Hawaiian COLB, just like Obama who was born in Kenya, both attended the same grade school in Indonesia, then attended the same Middle school in Hawaii, then both went to ivy league colleges in the united states, and Maya went on the PHD in Hawaii, and lived there. Married Ng, a non-us Citizen from Canada, and has two children. And is not teaching at the Smithsonian with her husband.
The same questions keep nagging me. These are very expensive educations, yet these were not wealthy people, they did not have well paying jobs. So how in the world did these children and adults afford high level educations, unless they got grants. Which imply foreign grants, as they both came from Indonesia, and Maya is not a US Citizen.


19 posted on 09/21/2009 9:50:44 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

I’m not sure why there would be a divorce instead of an annulment since they could not have been legally married since Obama Sr. was already married.


20 posted on 09/21/2009 10:03:42 AM PDT by JMS
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To: cycle of discernment

21 posted on 09/21/2009 10:06:46 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: cycle of discernment

If this proves to be true, than, not only the main fringe media will have egg on their faces, but, some even in the right wing media will have egg on your faces.


22 posted on 09/21/2009 10:12:26 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Deb

The quacks jumped on this one fast. I hope she has that documentation and makes these anti-constitutional traitors eat their you know what.


23 posted on 09/21/2009 10:27:46 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

What is likely is that Obama Sr. impregnated Stanley A. Dunham, and then married her because of pressure from her parents or perhaps he saw the Dunham family as a ticket to a US university. He never loved her and abandoned her soon after they married, heading back to Kenya. Obama’s mother followed him there to give birth with hopes that he would acknowledge his son. Obama Sr. never did and wouldn’t even sign the birth certificate.


24 posted on 09/21/2009 10:39:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: cycle of discernment

ALERT ALERT: Breaking technicality found.

The website http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1703 has a document, with Barack Obama’s signature on it, that purports to be a “Presidential Preference Election Candidate Nomination Paper” required in Arizona by A.R.S. § 16-242. The significant thing about this is that it is completely invalid. The notarization of Obama’s signature was made by a Virginia notary and as such is subject to Va. Code 47.1-16 (effective July 1, 2007). The Virginia law requires that: “Every notarization shall include the date upon which the notarial act was performed, and the COUNTY or CITY IN WHICH it was performed.” Violation number two occurred when Ray Anderson, Notary failed to note when his own authority to notarize documents expired. The Virginia law requires that requires it with the word “shall” is stated here, “Upon every writing which is the subject of a notarial act, the notary shall, after his certificate, state the date of the expiration of his commission.” Obama may try to seek safe harbor from any criminal fraud allegation on account of “swearing that he is qualified to hold the office he sought” that such document was invalid and thus could not be used as evidence against him. This is just one piece of evidence applicable to the state of Arizona. Obama inc. may well have bungled the other 57 states requirements on candidate eligibility. In the worst case scenario for Obama, the invalid candidate attestation invalidates the amount of Arizona electoral college votes which in turn invalidates the 2008 Joint Session of Congress certifying electoral votes.

This is a very technical application of the rules but we should not apologize for applying the law when Obama never apologized for his own hardball tactics where he used the rule book to win his first race for Illinois state Senate against Alice Palmer. See http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html . I also suggest that any discovery questions relating to this “notary issue” is fair game when standing is based upon 3 U.S.C. § 15. As has been said, possibly multiple provisions were not properly followed on January 8, 2009 when the votes for Obama were counted. And the district court therefore does have jurisdiction to review a failure of the Government to follow the laws enacted to protect the integrity of the electoral process.

Therefore, upon the Leo Donofrio, basis: since the DOJ raised the statute and relied upon it for the motion to dismiss, and since Judge Carter has allowed immediate discovery necessary for purposes of opposing the motion to dismiss, Orly should also demand discovery for any issue related to the invalidity of each individual state presidential eligibility documents. Apparently, the Arizona documents are invalid because they require a valid Notary endorsement, which Obama failed to provide.

(Note this argument fails if the Arizona document was merely cropped and the original actually contains the location of the notarial act and identifies the commission expiration date.)


25 posted on 09/21/2009 10:41:17 AM PDT by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: humblegunner

“She may well be a plant, hired to put a clowns face on the whole issue.”

BINGO!!!IMHO...if this whole issue is for real..this is THE most probable circumstance...in that it allows his handlers to maintain control over the situation.


26 posted on 09/21/2009 10:46:23 AM PDT by mo
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To: SaraJohnson
My theory is, all the missing documentation will list Obama as a "Muslim". And that's the only reason such a huge effort is being made to deep six them. But in the end, if he did produce his BC and it said he was born in Kenya or Indonesia or on Rainbow Island it wouldn't matter at this point. The Left would amass a smoke screen and stall till the next election.

After everything that Clinton did and all the efforts to expel him from our government, in the end the Democrats, the media and the hard Left rallied to save his presidency and discredit the Republicans.

The BC is a loser and is being used and promoted to make the Right look absurd.

27 posted on 09/21/2009 10:48:18 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: etraveler13
Note also that Maya was born in Indonesia, and has a Hawaiian COLB, just like Obama

Really? Do you have proof of this or is this one of the many Birther rumors that gets repeated so often it takes on the appearance of being true?

28 posted on 09/21/2009 10:52:38 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

This is true. Maya has a Hawiian COLB..any foregn born child could get one in those days by single affadavit/request of one relative


29 posted on 09/21/2009 10:55:13 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Deb

I don’t agree with you. If nothing else, the documentation on the birth question will mess up Dear Leader’s run for a second term. Making the communist oppostion look absurd? Too many normal Americans would disagree with the far left on your assertion. It is not absurd to demand documentation on the President’s eligibility to anyone but the one’s who failed to do their constitutional duty in the first place. That makes for a majority of the media and both parties. Not the people demanding the rule of law.


30 posted on 09/21/2009 11:04:38 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: cycle of discernment
This is true. Maya has a Hawiian COLB..any foregn born child could get one in those days by single affadavit/request of one relative

What's your source for this information?

31 posted on 09/21/2009 11:29:24 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: cycle of discernment

Can you post the documents here on FR


32 posted on 09/21/2009 11:43:25 AM PDT by ncfool (Cash for Clunkers - A big failure and Obama and rats want us to trust them with our healthcare!)
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To: Deb

That doesn’t wash because Barry had someone remove his and only his file for entry into kindergarten, which would not list religion but would include a certified copy of the original BC ... which may have been issued in Kenay or Canada or by HI.


33 posted on 09/21/2009 11:47:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Maya’s HI BC is listed as one of the ‘exhibits’ in one of the Berg filings which I do not have a copy of. Berg actually mentioned it during one of the interviews he gave on Radio, I think the texas radio program that pumped up so many items then couldn’t deliver.


34 posted on 09/21/2009 11:50:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: cycle of discernment

I don’t take a position on all this but I think full disclosure should be made because it’s in the public’s interest to know about the man who is President, and the fact that no disclosure has been made causes one to wonder what they are hiding...
that said, I’ve always wondered why the need to divorce when the man was a bigamist. Doesn’t that invalidate the marriage and it should be annulled, not dissolved?

Just sayin.....


35 posted on 09/21/2009 11:50:34 AM PDT by GatorGirl (You do not liberate one man by enslaving another)
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To: humblegunner

Orley Wendell Holmes


36 posted on 09/21/2009 11:57:29 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Drew68

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:PLYD9KbxtlIJ:www.obamacrimes.com/+maya+has+hawaiian+colb&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

“The only document purporting to be Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was actually a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth [COLB], an image of which was placed on Obama’s campaign website in June of 2008. It is important to note, Hawaii also issues Certification of Live Births to children born abroad upon the registration by a family member of the birth. A Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth is issued to children who are United States “natural born” citizens as well as “naturalized” citizens, who did not qualify for “natural born” status. Take for instance, Maya Soetoro, Mr. Obama’s half-sister who was born in Jakarta, Indonesia in 1970, she too has a Certification of Live Birth, however, she is not a United States “natural born” citizen. “


37 posted on 09/21/2009 12:01:12 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Drew68
Do you have proof of this or is this one of the many Birther rumors that gets repeated so often it takes on the appearance of being true?

Of course it is true. Phil Berg mentioned that he had a copy of Maya's BC just after he mentioned that he had proof the George W. Bush was responsible for the 9/11 Attacks.

38 posted on 09/21/2009 12:06:47 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: steve0
wy not sue the person who accepted this form signed by Obama to produce the legally acceptable proof of natural born citizenship which is the LONG FORM birth certificate?

Someone else posted this idea, I'm just cutting and pasting it here for comments.

39 posted on 09/21/2009 12:10:38 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (\/\/|-|3R3 15 7|-|3 b1R7|-| (3R71Ph1(473?)
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To: Deb

Clinton was impeached, the Republican’s were not discredited.

Acorn was brought down in less than a week by two college kids.

The truth will come out...


40 posted on 09/21/2009 12:11:00 PM PDT by naturalborn
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To: Drew68

unconfirmed but interesting
http://clintondems.com/2008/08/claim-obamas-birth-certificate-forged-with-sister-mayas-original/


Question: Why did Hawaii issue a Certificate of Live Birth, if he wasn’t born in Hawaii.
Answer: Hawaii did not issue Obama a Certificate of Live Birth, they issued him a Certification of Live Birth. In fact his sister Maya Soetoro-Ng, born in Indonesia, also possesses a Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii. The Hawaiian government itself states that a Certification of Live Birth is less accurate than a Certificate of Live Birth.
“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.” Apparently there is something in the Certificate that is not on the Certification that Obama does not want the people to see.
http://www.birthers.org/faqs/FAQ.html

So, I checked pages of search engines, and found these two versions...I cannot say which is correct.

Could be an urban legend, then again, maybe not.


41 posted on 09/21/2009 12:12:14 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Politicians are sloppy so maybe their are worse cases out their in the other 57 states. Obama was successful in his attention to detail on Alice Palmer, I hope we can do the same.


42 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:53 PM PDT by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: trumandogz
Of course it is true. Phil Berg mentioned that he had a copy of Maya's BC just after he mentioned that he had proof the George W. Bush was responsible for the 9/11 Attacks.

Silly me. I was hoping for something a little more, ahem, "official" but if it's on Berg's website, it's gotta be true!

43 posted on 09/21/2009 12:35:54 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: cycle of discernment

Well, that type of news will get the Obots all in a tizzy.


44 posted on 09/21/2009 2:35:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: etraveler13

ET, As far as I now, Hawaii has NEVER confirmed that the COLB on-line was issued by them. Personally, I don’t think it was, but WND and others (including myslef) have asked this question of the Health Dept and they will NOT confirm that the Fight The Smears COLB was ever issued to Obama.

This is SO-O-O-O-O-O-O ridiculous ! The little lying Hawaiian officials (like Fukino -who are probably BO supporters) are “flattered” to be in personal contact with the President. They can lie through their teeth and they can conceal ALL of their docs as long as they have Washington behind them ! I “HATE” this !


45 posted on 09/21/2009 3:32:24 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: cycle of discernment
Is missing page 11 from Dunham Divorce Decree the Kenyan Birth Certificate?

Of course it is!!!

46 posted on 09/21/2009 3:41:43 PM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: cycle of discernment; LucyT; pissant; BP2; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; null and void; David; Candor7; ...
Hate to rain on your parade, but the intuitive take here is that the BC was most likely not the missing page 11. But the missing page could have contained a reference to some fact on the face of the BC, a fact that could very well have proved that BO is constitutionally unqualified to be POTUS.

The BC may well be part of the court record in the divorce case, very possibly submitted as an exhibit attached to one of Stanley Ann's papers - but not likely a single page of the decree. That's just the way legal documents are generally produced and maintained.

47 posted on 09/21/2009 5:12:34 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: etraveler13

Has anyone checked Maya’s college records to see if she attended school as an American w/Hawaii birth certificate or as a foreign student? I don’t remember reading anything along those lines, but maybe I missed it. Wonder if her records have been sealed as well.


48 posted on 09/21/2009 8:15:12 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade

Not that I am aware of, in fact, it is no secret that she was born in Indonesia, and became a naturalized US citizen.


49 posted on 09/21/2009 11:14:49 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Drew68

Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, who was born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia, has a birth certificate on file in Hawaii. I verified this at the following online birth certificate search site: http://www.birth-records.com It seems quite likely that the grandmother may have filed a Hawaiian COLB registration for Maya, just as she did for Barack. Why else would Maya’s certification of birth be on file in Hawaii, when it is an undisputed fact that she was born in Indonesia, as stated in this Wikipedia article -( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Soetoro )? It is also interesting to note that the same online search used to find a record for Maya did not show any result for Barry Soetoro, or Barry or Barack Obama. After all, you cannot view the record - the search only states whether or not a record is on file.


50 posted on 04/02/2011 9:08:03 PM PDT by rickoff (Re: Maya Soetoro's Hawaiian COLB)
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