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Buried treasure found in Córdoba[Spain]
Typically Spanish ^ | 22 Sep 2009 | h.b.

Posted on 09/23/2009 6:52:54 AM PDT by BGHater

13 gold coins have been found, wrapped together, by the river in Córdoba

If you know where to look, buried treasure can still be found in Spain. The latest find was not however thanks to a map marked with an ‘X’, but came as part of an archaeological excavation as part of new drainage works in Córdoba, close to the famous Roman Bridge in the city centre.

13 gold coins, escudos, from the reign of Carlos III, dated from 1776 to 1801, and wrapped in a cloth, were found under a layer of limestone which has kept them in a perfect condition for more than two centuries. Each escudo weighs 27 grams and has a diameter of 36mm.

El País reports that Enrique León, the head of the archaeological team, thinks that the coins could have been deliberately hidden ahead of the French invasion, led by General Dupont which pillaged the city in July 1808. However he thinks the hiding place, next to the river, is a surprising one, as the area is thought to have been used as a rubbish tip at the time.

The mystery that will remain is why the person who hid the coins never returned to dig them up. Or perhaps he did but could not find them.

A Carlos III escudo


TOPICS: History; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: bahog; coins; crdoba; escudos; godsgravesglyphs; gold; spain; treasure

1 posted on 09/23/2009 6:52:55 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater
However he thinks the hiding place, next to the river, is a surprising one, as the area is thought to have been used as a rubbish tip at the time.

Matt Foley?

2 posted on 09/23/2009 6:56:09 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: BGHater

Or perhaps they fell out of someone’s pocket while they were emptying the trash. As far as remaining in perfect condition - gold does not oxidize or otherwise corrode. When gold coins are recovered from wrecks they sometimes have coral or shellfish attached to them or accreting them together, but other than that they are generally unaffected by their environment.


3 posted on 09/23/2009 6:59:20 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Crawdad

Could have been hid by refugees, partisans, highwaymen, or vagrants living near the rubbish tip. I’ll bet on highwaymen.


4 posted on 09/23/2009 6:59:25 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BGHater

Oh, so that’s where I lost them!


5 posted on 09/23/2009 7:05:35 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


6 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:47 AM PDT by csvset
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To: RonF

People who “empty the trash” do not have 13 escudos on them. That was an ENORMOUS amount of money at the time - more than a year’s wages for most folks.


7 posted on 09/23/2009 7:07:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: BGHater

Did they find any rich, Corinthian leather?


8 posted on 09/23/2009 7:09:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BGHater
"13 gold coins have been found...in Córdoba..."

Must've slipped beneath the seats...


9 posted on 09/23/2009 7:11:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: RonF

Wouldn’t 13 gold coins have been a huge fortune at that time, the life savings of a merchant, and unlikely to have been dropped accidentally, or even carried out of the house?


10 posted on 09/23/2009 7:12:05 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: dfwgator

LOL...see my #9...


11 posted on 09/23/2009 7:12:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: dfwgator

that’s a major LoL there.


12 posted on 09/23/2009 7:12:45 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: BGHater

“... hidden ahead of the French invasion, led by General Dupont which pillaged the city in July 1808.”

It is really interesting.

There was a lot of fierce fighting back and forth during the French occupation of the Peninsula.

That fight is one of the first on record of actual guerilla warfare as we understand it in modern terms. Spain, at that time, was a backward and very poorly governed place where banditry was typical and widely tolerated. In addition to this, during the French occupation, the peninsula was crawling with soldiers of both sides (French officers as well as lower ranks looted at will), deserters from both sides, the usual home grown-bandits, profiteers and actually anyone who wanted to capitalize on the chaos and disorder to steal or otherwise appropriate valuables.

Anyone who buries gold usually has come by it illicitly and I bet the coins were buried by a soldier or bandit who looted them and didn’t live to return for them.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 7:17:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: BGHater

A Carlos III escudo

Just in case the image fails above.

14 posted on 09/23/2009 7:21:36 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: BGHater

Cash for clunker program ?


15 posted on 09/23/2009 7:22:36 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Joe 6-pack
Must've slipped beneath the seats...

Good heavens, I remember watching that commercial!

16 posted on 09/23/2009 7:40:23 AM PDT by Galatians513 (this space available for catchy tagline)
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To: BGHater

Too Bad! My family emigrated from Spain to Sicily in 1488 so I guess it ain’t mine!


17 posted on 09/23/2009 7:46:40 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!">)
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To: Galatians513
"Good heavens, I remember watching that commercial!"

LOL...I remember riding in my uncle's Cordoba!

18 posted on 09/23/2009 7:46:46 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: bgill

13 coins. Must be a slow news cycle.


19 posted on 09/23/2009 7:47:49 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: BGHater
The mystery that will remain is why the person who hid the coins never returned to dig them up. Or perhaps he did but could not find them.

Perhaps the French made him dead?

20 posted on 09/23/2009 7:52:21 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: babble-on

I wouldn’t say a huge fortune. It’s right at 19 ounces of gold.

For example, a standard British soldier would have made six pence a day (he did, however have to pay for almost everything). That would equate out to a gross pay of just over 9 pounds sterling. The average ratio of gold to silver was about 1:16 at the time, so 9 pounds of silver would work out to 9 ounces of gold.

19 ounces would have been a few years of gross income for a common soldier (and quite a find to be sure!), but to an officer or a rent collecting noble, it would have been maybe half a year of net income.

For someone like Mr. Bingley from Pride and Prejudice (who was stated as having income of 4,000 to 5,000 pounds a year), it would have been a fairly inconsequential amount. (4,000 pounds sterling would have been about 250 pounds of gold a year)


21 posted on 09/23/2009 8:58:24 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: BGHater
If you know where to look, buried treasure can still be found in Spain.

or maybe not...

However he thinks the hiding place, next to the river, is a surprising one,

22 posted on 09/23/2009 9:15:26 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory health insurance? I thought it was about health care!)
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To: Lockbar

This isn’t a ‘news’ article.


23 posted on 09/23/2009 10:18:28 AM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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Thanks csvset.
13 gold coins, escudos, from the reign of Carlos III, dated from 1776 to 1801, and wrapped in a cloth, were found under a layer of limestone which has kept them in a perfect condition for more than two centuries. Each escudo weighs 27 grams and has a diameter of 36mm.
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24 posted on 09/23/2009 3:43:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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25 posted on 09/24/2009 3:10:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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I’m coin to have to save that image.


26 posted on 09/24/2009 7:42:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Put it in a specie place.


27 posted on 09/25/2009 9:55:44 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I currency any reason not to.


28 posted on 09/25/2009 7:33:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Rich Corinthian Leather [TM]


29 posted on 09/25/2009 7:35:02 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SunkenCiv

I gold you it was okay.


30 posted on 09/25/2009 9:43:44 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Eight that the truth.


31 posted on 09/26/2009 5:36:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

We’ve been cerebrating, so I’ll have a whiskey, and you can have a tot aurum.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 5:38:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I’ve been bullion people with puns for years, but I’m runnin’ out of ‘em in this context.


33 posted on 09/26/2009 6:57:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I treasure your comments, Darlin.’


34 posted on 09/26/2009 8:07:40 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Shiver me timbers!


35 posted on 09/26/2009 8:37:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you, but you really should keep those timbers intact. Perish the thought that you’d actually become a sunken civilization!


36 posted on 09/27/2009 10:59:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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Yo ho ho. :’)


37 posted on 09/27/2009 2:48:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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