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Hiroshima vs Detroit -- 64 years later
9/25/2009 | VANITY

Posted on 09/26/2009 5:38:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

PICTURES OF HIROSHIMA CIRCA 1945









DETROIT IN THE LATE 40's and EARLY 50's












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HIROSHIMA TODAY











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DETROIT TODAY




















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Who the hell won the war!



TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: bluezones; detroit; hiroshima; michigan; urban
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1 posted on 09/26/2009 5:38:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow.............Bumpin’ for later!


2 posted on 09/26/2009 5:44:07 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: SeekAndFind

I see some similarities in these photos. Hiroshima 1945 is where dictatorships and religious extremism get you. Hiroshima Modern times is what you get when you have capitalistic ideals running the show.

Now if you flip the last paragraph and insert Detroit in place of Hiroshima then you get the idea. Liberal ideas have run the show there in Detroit for far too long.


3 posted on 09/26/2009 5:44:20 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: SeekAndFind

The people of Hiroshima had already faced total destruction, so they were smart enough not to vote for a socialist. Detroit’s people had never encountered the consequences of bad decisions, so they spent decades pushing for the most “liberal” government their neighbors could afford, with the crowning achievement last November. Karma.


4 posted on 09/26/2009 5:44:41 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A number of those Detroit Today pics are from the Packard Plant that closed in 1956.


5 posted on 09/26/2009 5:46:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: SeekAndFind
Detroit's been on the skids for 30 years.

If nothing else, the Japanese are a focused people.

I get your point though.

6 posted on 09/26/2009 5:47:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Do you mind if I link this on my Facebook page ?

BTW - I live only a few hours from both Nagasaki and Hiroshima by car . Never been to Detroit . Bronx and parts of Queens and Brooklyn bad enough .


7 posted on 09/26/2009 5:48:35 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SeekAndFind

We beat the foreign enemies, but had no way of dealing with the domestic enemies. We still don’t. Witness the destruction they are causing.

Very good post, nonetheless. Thanks.


8 posted on 09/26/2009 5:49:04 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind
Why liberals won in Detroit. Pubbies should be using pictures of this everywhere to demonstrate what happens when liberal (marxist) policies are ascendant for protracted periods of time.
9 posted on 09/26/2009 5:49:31 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Reagan Man

Interesting.


10 posted on 09/26/2009 5:50:01 PM PDT by Ravi
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To: TurtleUp

Thought experiment ( suggested episode for the Twilight Zone).

1) Imagine everyone in Hiroshima (population : 1.1 Million) today were teleported to Detroit.

2) Now imagine the same -— everyone in Detroit (population : 950,000) are teleported to Hiroshima.

What would happen 25 years later ?

I’d like Rod Serling to write a script and 30 minute show on that.


11 posted on 09/26/2009 5:50:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: sushiman
Do you mind if I link this on my Facebook page ?

Not at all -- be my guest. I took a lot of those images from Google.
12 posted on 09/26/2009 5:51:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Moral of the story :

Liberals can nuke cities with more devastating effect than nuclear bombs. All it takes is to vote for them.


13 posted on 09/26/2009 5:51:14 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind
Thought experiment ( suggested episode for the Twilight Zone). 1) Imagine everyone in Hiroshima (population : 1.1 Million) today were teleported to Detroit. 2) Now imagine the same -— everyone in Detroit (population : 950,000) are teleported to Hiroshima. What would happen 25 years later ?

Well, Detroit would look quite nice in a whole lot less than 25 years. As for Hiroshima ... Japan forgave us once, more or less, but that was just over a couple of nukes. I doubt they would be so tolerant if we dumped a million kooks on them. It's sad, but it's the people who created that destruction in their own back yards.

14 posted on 09/26/2009 5:55:21 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do a Youtube search for “abandoned Detroit”


15 posted on 09/26/2009 5:57:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Nuc1

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES THE CONSERVATIVES/REPUBLICANS HAVE ever MADE.

We have NEVER shown them in pics what they got with the DEMS...especially black people.


16 posted on 09/26/2009 5:58:48 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: GeronL

I got one link here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JbGxIR8JTk

The caption says :

It is an open secret that the downtown of Detroit, Michigan is as empty as the residential districts that surround it.

On a walking tour of the city core one July 2008 Sunday, this is what I found.


17 posted on 09/26/2009 6:00:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: sushiman

From the images and videos I have seen of Tokyo, I would say the Japanese seem to have an aversion to waste like Detroit. Much of Detroit is a wasteland.

You can Youtube “Abandoned Detroit”


18 posted on 09/26/2009 6:01:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

Not all Detroit is like that...I stayed there at the Omni two weeks ago....it was all nice and clean..had a fun time.


19 posted on 09/26/2009 6:02:03 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: SeekAndFind

I have seen that video. It is amazingly eerie.


20 posted on 09/26/2009 6:02:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
We have NEVER shown them in pics what they got with the DEMS...especially black people.

Who wants to be tarred with the dreaded "R" WORD ?
21 posted on 09/26/2009 6:02:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Downtown is a ghost town..


22 posted on 09/26/2009 6:02:54 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: SeekAndFind
I know one thing that went dreadfully wrong. In the 1950s a man named Edwards Demming presented a management concept to American industry (INCLUDING the auto industry in Detroit) called Organizational Behavior. The U.S. auto industry, and IBM (among others) turned their noses at him and sent him away.

So he went to Japan, which was RIPE for his concepts. They were willing to hear him and adopt his new concepts as they were in the midst of rebuilding and recovering from world war two. You probably remember when the "funny looking" little Japanese cars starting appearing on American roads in the early 1970s...and how the U.S. auto industry turned their noses at them and told us how they were a passing fad. But by the late 1980s the Japanese had become a serious threat to the U.S. auto industry.

Edwards Demming is probably the single most responsible person for the success of the Japanese automotive and technology industries.

In truth, organizational behavior has been adopted throughout a goodly portion of American business and industry today. But Demming was able to reach Japan after world war two with it first.

The photos are a direct reflection of the results of Japan adopting and applying innovation and change correctly (with help from Mr. Demming) and the U.S. staying with industry killers such as the UAW.
23 posted on 09/26/2009 6:04:19 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Irisshlass

Interesting article from someone who was originally from Michigan :

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35248

TITLE :

Detroit: The Future Face of America


25 posted on 09/26/2009 6:09:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks . Just added the link .


26 posted on 09/26/2009 6:10:04 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SeekAndFind

if the soviets or chicoms or moslems had done this,

there’d be hell to pay.

but, fdr, eleanor, lbj, carter, clintons and the democrats did this.


27 posted on 09/26/2009 6:10:09 PM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: GeronL

You are correct . Every inch of available space is utilized . There are some very beautiful parks / spaces in Tokyo and still a few sections where you’d think you were in the countryside : quiet , green , peaceful ...But alas , they are getting scarcer as the megalopolis continues to grow .


28 posted on 09/26/2009 6:14:24 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SeekAndFind

Detroit = New Fallujah. Similar pictures?


29 posted on 09/26/2009 6:31:39 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Detroit: The Triumph of Progressive Public Policy

http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=10743

Excerpt:

Imagine a city where all the major economic planks of the statist or “progressive” platform have been enacted:

* A “living wage” ordinance, far above the federal minimum wage, for all public employees and private contractors.
* A school system that spends significantly more per pupil than the national average.
* A powerful school employee union that militantly defends the exceptional pay, benefits and job security it has won for its members.
* A powerful government employee union that does the same for its members.
* A tax system that aggressively redistributes income from businesses and the wealthy to the poor and to government bureaucracies.

Would this be a shining city on a hill, exciting the admiration of all? We don’t have to guess, because there is such a city right here in our state: Detroit

For a video tour of Detroit go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz_vDOrqOOQ


30 posted on 09/26/2009 6:33:58 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: sushiman

Their apartments are quite small, when you learn that people will pay to pet a cat for twenty minutes it should say something about those tiny living spaces.


31 posted on 09/26/2009 6:37:38 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s a chilling thought for Twilight Zone fans.

Aside from avoiding further and massive loss of American lives as our armed forces advanced on Japan, scientists were allegedly interested in nuking Japan for another reason: learning of the impact it would have on the environment.

Satisfied that no permenant damage was done, plans for the Greening of America were drawn up.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 6:41:02 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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To: SeekAndFind

Go ahead and tar me !

Rev. James David Manning of Harlem has said that black people - generally speaking - are destroyers . Look around the world and just about everywhere you go you see evidence of this . As long as they keep blaming whitey ( not that we are perfect mind you ) for everything instead of moving on and becoming more patriotic while at the same time creating self-sufficiency in their communities with the help of whites AND putting more emphasis on FAMILY ( versus single mother households ) ...they will continue to be destroyers . They need GOD most of all . Too many have been hoodwinked by charlatan preachers who are no more Christian than Stalin .


33 posted on 09/26/2009 6:41:23 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: GeronL
More Pics of Hiroshima today





34 posted on 09/26/2009 6:54:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

gorgeous. doesn’t seem to glow in the dark at all.


35 posted on 09/26/2009 6:57:40 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind
Who the hell won the war!

The Allied Forces, comprised mainly of the forces of the Soviet Union, the United States, the British Empire, with the assistance of their allied nations, partisans and resistants.

36 posted on 09/26/2009 6:59:27 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: SeekAndFind

That square park surrounded by water. Is that a shrine? does it sit on reclaimed land?


37 posted on 09/26/2009 6:59:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: preacher
MORE PICS OF ABANDONED BUILDINGS IN DETROIT TODAY ( SOME OF THE BUILDING SHELLS LOOKED NICE, MUST HAVE BEEN GRAND DURING ITS HEYDAY) :





38 posted on 09/26/2009 7:00:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: GeronL
That square park surrounded by water. Is that a shrine? does it sit on reclaimed land?

I believe it is the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park.

Here is the layout :

39 posted on 09/26/2009 7:05:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So the whole thing is about the A-bomb. A-bomb this and A-bomb that, toy A-bombs at the souvenir shop....

That town needs a Six Flags.

*snicker*


40 posted on 09/26/2009 7:11:51 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

I hear it was a grand city once. Now its just sad. The abandoned portion of Detroit is larger in area than San Francisco... so I hear.


41 posted on 09/26/2009 7:13:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Tiny living spaces they are accustomed to living in . A country of 135,000,000 living in a country smaller than the state of California which is mountainous and uses much of it’s countyside’s land for farming is going to have a space problem . I’ve got to laugh at Americans , who , when somebody builds a house 100 yards away complains about it !


42 posted on 09/26/2009 7:20:24 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks again for posting all the pics . Arigato !


43 posted on 09/26/2009 7:21:08 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman

If I win the lotto I am buying me 1000 acres in Wyoming or something. I’ll call it my country.


44 posted on 09/26/2009 7:23:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
My brother worked at Michigan Central Depot (RR) from the 50's and retired from it in the 80's. By then Amtrak had bought the place and moved to Philly in the 1970's...There is one site if you google Michigan Central Depot/Detroit that has before and after pictures of some of the beautiful buildings that use to be Detroit...The depot was built in sometime between 1903-1913. I cannot remember which..

Anyway when the depot closed to trains and moved to Philly, the place was full of beautiful old wood furniture and the employee's could take anything they wanted from the offices as it was cheaper to buy new stuff after the move...He furnished his condo in Philly with much of the furniture from the offices...Beautiful oak and cherry conference tables and the arm chairs to match, I have a 7 piece (hutch type) set in my basement of a cabinet with all types of drawers for railroad plans and such...Doors, drawers, open shelving the base and the top cornice are separate pieces..He had barrister book cases from the turn of the century.

I googled to try and find out about the furniture maker (with no luck) as the piece I have has a brass medallion on the cornice with the Manufactures name...

The before and after pictures are enough to make you cry...I was there once in 1950 to see my brother off for the Korean war...It was awesome.(the depot not the war)....

People traveled by train most of the time as air flight was just too expensive, no expressways and the only Air Port was a couple of hours from Detroit. The old Willow Run airport...and those that traveled by plane were dressed like they were going to an important meeting....(my sister lived in Maryland and flew home once in the late 40's.)

Times they do change...as do the people, not always for the better...sad to say..

45 posted on 09/26/2009 7:45:06 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

http://www.seedetroit.com/pictures/mcsweb/

There’s one site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ira3xb2IEb0

a video from someone driving by...


46 posted on 09/26/2009 7:50:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: preacher
I was born and raised in Detroit. It was called the Venice of America...Every street was lined with huge elms trees and in the summer when you drove down the street it was like a tunnel of green...and that was the majority of the streets in Detroit. There was no public housing and the colored (that is what Afro-Americans were called and didn't find it offensive) area's were well kept. No graffiti streets clean and anyone could walk in any area's without fear.My graduating class was 500 kids and about 25 % black...some a lot smarter than I was and education was important to both races.

What started Detroit down was forced busing...There was a principal of a colored school that went on TV greatly offended that whites in Washington thought his children could only learn if they sat next to a white kid...Many that could leave, both black and white left for the suburbs. That left the poor, both black and white and no tax base. With the riots of the 60's, business's moved out...Coleman Young was a racist and ran that town for about 20 years. When he finally was gone, so was Detroit...Everything was the white man's fault...just like today....He told those that committee crimes in the city to go out past 8 Mile(the border for Detroit) and commit crimes on the white folks...

Gee, I wonder why it has become a hell hole...

47 posted on 09/26/2009 8:07:04 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SeekAndFind

Good question! We got eaten by termites.


48 posted on 09/26/2009 8:23:06 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s fantastic! Thanks for posting it.


49 posted on 09/26/2009 8:26:30 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SeekAndFind
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are not unusually radioactive.
50 posted on 09/26/2009 8:59:01 PM PDT by TChad
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